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Certainty

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am
by Ollie.ha
After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver

Re: Certainty

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 3:09 am
by Impenitent
self deception

-Imp

Re: Certainty

Posted: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:41 pm
by Walker
Ollie.ha wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver
Well even if you're gonna be batting 500 that's pretty good.

The Democrat Party Hates America thread is pretty busy these days, as are the Democrats.

This fits better.

The Inevitable

If eight thousand illegals are deported every single day, from the USA,

It certainly will require four years to remove twelve million.

Likely, there are more than twelve million.

It just don’t add up.

Won’t happen. Fait accompli.

Mission accomplished. Invasion complete. Fundamentally changed.

Who told Biden to open the border?
Certainly, someone must have, one way or another.

Because even if he was uncertain before action, action is the relationship to certainty, and action defines certainty of "choice."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhW3P7_jvWY

Re: Certainty

Posted: Wed Jun 11, 2025 8:06 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Don't worry, Trump hasn't started his second term yet. Then there are two terms of Vance. At least fifteen and a half years should do it. No? Hard working Americans will be safe! For certain.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:28 am
by puto
Doubtable, then non-certain. Certain is, "I think, therefore I exist." So, fallibilistic do not secure an absolute certainty. Is certainty only available to enquirers who can discover no reason to doubt. Everything is a single a priori justification to start a foundation. Descartes's Method of Doubt is certainty. Leading, philosophy into the Enlightenment. Knowledge had to be true this was cognitive.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:39 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Doubt is certainty, for sure. But is certainty doubt?

Re: Certainty

Posted: Thu Jun 12, 2025 4:43 pm
by Martin Peter Clarke
Ollie.ha wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver
Is the world better yet for it?

Re: Certainty

Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:40 pm
by popeye1945
Ollie.ha wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver
The certainty of a truth? Truth to the individual is its experience, but to a collective of individuals, it is agreement. There is only probability. I don't believe there is certainty; that is a faith issue, as comforting as some find it, it is not real, in the same sense that perfection is not real.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:17 am
by Ollie.ha
popeye1945 wrote: Fri Jun 20, 2025 7:40 pm
Ollie.ha wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver
The certainty of a truth? Truth to the individual is its experience, but to a collective of individuals, it is agreement. There is only probability. I don't believe there is certainty; that is a faith issue, as comforting as some find it, it is not real, in the same sense that perfection is not real.
Great! Now I can include that thought in my definition of certainty.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 4:33 am
by godelian
puto wrote: Thu Jun 12, 2025 8:28 am Certain is, "I think, therefore I exist."
It is only certain to yourself, if even.

Furthermore, you can't use it to objectively prove to other people that you exist.

In general, person A cannot irrefutably prove to B that C exists.

Of what use or importance is it to person B or C that person A can prove only to himself that he exists?

"Cogito ergo sum" is clearly irrelevant.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:15 am
by Age
Ollie.ha wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver
I am not sure where is 'your question', here.

But, if you would like 'the answer' to some thing like, 'How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'? then just let me know, as 'the answer'' is extremely simple, and easy.

However if you are looking for something else, and/or 'your question', is something else, then okay. If you like you can also let me know.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:16 am
by LuckyR
Huh? Certainty has nothing to do with actual truth. It has to do with one's opinion on their understanding of the truth.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:27 am
by puto
If you could find your logical fallacies, then you would understand.

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 12:53 am
by Ollie.ha
puto wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 11:27 am If you could find your logical fallacies, then you would understand.
This is good advice!!!

Re: Certainty

Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2025 2:11 am
by Ollie.ha
Age wrote: Sat Jun 21, 2025 6:15 am
Ollie.ha wrote: Tue Jun 10, 2025 12:18 am After my last post I feel pretty good about asking another question, seen as I got the answer last time…

I’m looking for the relationship from uncertainty to certainty, to apply this knowledge to verify various truths that may lead to a better world.

If we define uncertainty in the definition of certainty, the lack of knowledge will not contradict the notion of certainty because it is included in the definition.

So there’s my question
-Oliver
I am not sure where is 'your question', here.

But, if you would like 'the answer' to some thing like, 'How can you get from 'uncertainty' to being absolutely 'certain' about some thing'? then just let me know, as 'the answer'' is extremely simple, and easy.

However if you are looking for something else, and/or 'your question', is something else, then okay. If you like you can also let me know.
What is your ‘said’ answer