Dislikable institutions

[godelian]

The following are dislikable institutions, widespread practices, and other typical middle class behaviors replete with false beliefs and invariably justified by imbecile word salads.

You are getting encouraged, misled, nudged, shoehorned, threatened, and even forced to adopt the following:

- school, university, student loans
- payroll, HR, wage slaving, working at a physical office
- personal income tax
- (mandatory) health insurance, (mandatory) old-age pensions
- car loans, credit card and other consumer debt, interest-bearing loans in general
- buying a house, mortgage
- (savings) bank account, financial brokerage account, IRA, 401k, saving up paper scrip, KYC/AML regulations (Know Your Customer, Anti-Money Laundering)
- civil marriage, monogamy, community property, division of assets, alimony, child support
- voluntarily abiding by man-made law, glorifying man-made law-abiding tax-paying citizenship

All these things are scams meant to trap you in a spiderweb of deception aimed at destroying your self-sovereignty.

These institutions came gradually into being in the West over the last 150 years, further accelerated by the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913. These things do not exist particularly much outside the West, or to a much lesser extent, mostly because they were not (forcibly) introduced there.

The West tries to impose these things onto the free world.

That is why the powers who are hostile to the West, such as Russia and China, are actually allies of freedom and self-sovereignty. They are useful because they oppose the West. It is against the interests of freedom that these sovereign powers would ever get along with the West. They don't have to because they have nuclear weapons. Still, it is important to side with them against the West. More conflict is better.

Islam is also a surprisingly useful tool because it is ideologically opposed to approximately everything on the list above, and staunchly so.

In the meanwhile, you can already avoid these dislikable practices. I am personally completely free from any of the shit above. There are always alternatives. Use them.

Self-sovereignty is not just a dream. Self-sovereignty is an attainable goal.

[Atla]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

[godelian]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

Concerning banning a religion, the Catholic Spanish Habsburg monarchs tried between 1550, by issuing the Edict of Blood ("Bloedplakkaat") and 1648, when they finally gave up at the Treaty of Westphalia, for 98 years, to ban the Protestant faith from the Burgundian Netherlands. They declared bankruptcy 9 times, lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and they still completely failed.

The West does not even have 98 years left to try.

[attofishpi]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

Concerning banning a religion, the Catholic Spanish Habsburg monarchs tried between 1550, by issuing the Edict of Blood ("Bloedplakkaat") and 1648, when they finally gave up at the Treaty of Westphalia, for 98 years, to ban the Protestant faith from the Burgundian Netherlands. They declared bankruptcy 9 times, lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and they still completely failed.

The West does not even have 98 years left to try.

FFS. You're like a broken record. Institutional religion - particularly Christianity it seems that you take issue. You ignore the core tenets of Christ. A little quote I made up years ago: You can't see Christ for the Churches

[godelian]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

Concerning banning a religion, the Catholic Spanish Habsburg monarchs tried between 1550, by issuing the Edict of Blood ("Bloedplakkaat") and 1648, when they finally gave up at the Treaty of Westphalia, for 98 years, to ban the Protestant faith from the Burgundian Netherlands. They declared bankruptcy 9 times, lost hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and they still completely failed.

The West does not even have 98 years left to try.

FFS. You're like a broken record. Institutional religion - particularly Christianity it seems that you take issue. You ignore the core tenets of Christ. A little quote I made up years ago: You can't see Christ for the Churches

It is about the western world banning Islam. I have already said that I would love to see them trying. Seriously, I am all for it. You know, unlike what a lot of people seem to believe, violence is rarely the problem. On the contrary, violence is usually the solution to the problem. That is why I am always in favor of the practice of giving people reasons to become violent. The Dutch protestant rebellion in the Burgundian Netherlands was very violent. It was undoubtedly a fantastic shit show to watch. Where is the popcorn?

[FlashDangerpants]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

His list has very little to do with Islam and is much more in line with the preoccupations of a clinical psychopath inculcated into that American "self reliance" culture. Nobody outside America would have bothered to invoke IRAs, 401Ks and the Federal Reserve. Islam has nothing against universal healthcare or pensions, Rand Paul does.

[Atla]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

His list has very little to do with Islam and is much more in line with the preoccupations of a clinical psychopath inculcated into that American "self reliance" culture. Nobody outside America would have bothered to invoke IRAs, 401Ks and the Federal Reserve. Islam has nothing against universal healthcare or pensions, Rand Paul does.

He ran to Islam because he's a psychopath, and Islam is psychopathic. They are a match.

[FlashDangerpants]

And this is why the (remaining) free Western world needs to ban Islam. Imo it's one of the three big exceptions to the rule of tolerance.

His list has very little to do with Islam and is much more in line with the preoccupations of a clinical psychopath inculcated into that American "self reliance" culture. Nobody outside America would have bothered to invoke IRAs, 401Ks and the Federal Reserve. Islam has nothing against universal healthcare or pensions, Rand Paul does.

He ran to Islam because he's a psychopath, and Islam is psychopathic. They are a match.

None of the muslims I know would approve of anything godelian has ever written here.

It is obviously true that he "converted" in order to access these short term sex-tourism gigs that grant him access to his child brides, but those are local custom and not at all a universal muslim thing.

[Atla]

His list has very little to do with Islam and is much more in line with the preoccupations of a clinical psychopath inculcated into that American "self reliance" culture. Nobody outside America would have bothered to invoke IRAs, 401Ks and the Federal Reserve. Islam has nothing against universal healthcare or pensions, Rand Paul does.

He ran to Islam because he's a psychopath, and Islam is psychopathic. They are a match.

None of the muslims I know would approve of anything godelian has ever written here.

It is obviously true that he "converted" in order to access these short term sex-tourism gigs that grant him access to his child brides, but those are local custom and not at all a universal muslim thing.

Doesn't matter what Muslims you know as their behaviour changes once they reach critical mass in a country. What you have to do is look at Islamic countries.

[FlashDangerpants]

He ran to Islam because he's a psychopath, and Islam is psychopathic. They are a match.

None of the muslims I know would approve of anything godelian has ever written here.

It is obviously true that he "converted" in order to access these short term sex-tourism gigs that grant him access to his child brides, but those are local custom and not at all a universal muslim thing.

Doesn't matter what Muslims you know as their behaviour changes once they reach critical mass in a country. What you have to do is look at Islamic countries.

I don't think you have evidence in support of that claim

[Atla]

None of the muslims I know would approve of anything godelian has ever written here.

It is obviously true that he "converted" in order to access these short term sex-tourism gigs that grant him access to his child brides, but those are local custom and not at all a universal muslim thing.

Doesn't matter what Muslims you know as their behaviour changes once they reach critical mass in a country. What you have to do is look at Islamic countries.

I don't think you have evidence in support of that claim

I do, Islam by its nature can't be integrated into Christian countries. It's their way or the highway.

[attofishpi]

None of the muslims I know would approve of anything godelian has ever written here.

It is obviously true that he "converted" in order to access these short term sex-tourism gigs that grant him access to his child brides, but those are local custom and not at all a universal muslim thing.

Doesn't matter what Muslims you know as their behaviour changes once they reach critical mass in a country. What you have to do is look at Islamic countries.

I don't think you have evidence in support of that claim

duh! Just look at every country where people en-mass believe their SOLE purpose is to worship Allah...and kill those that don't convert - as per their "holy" doctrine.

[Atla]

Doesn't matter what Muslims you know as their behaviour changes once they reach critical mass in a country. What you have to do is look at Islamic countries.

I don't think you have evidence in support of that claim

duh! Just look at every country where people en-mass believe their SOLE purpose is to worship Allah...and kill those that don't convert - as per their "holy" doctrine.

When my country fought Islam for centuries, it became very clear. The Christian God and Allah do NOT mix. And since then Islam hasn't really changed, Allah is still their way of life. Recently it only got worse with the fundamentalist turn.

This is what many don't understand, they say oh Islam is just another religion, we'll live pecefully side by side. Well no, Islam is not like most other religions, Islam is literally world peace, united under Allah. The West is full of atheists, and most Christians don't bother others with their God, we had the scientific revolution, we had the separation of state and church. So, many in the West just have no experience with a God that totally defines everyday life. But that's how Allah is.

The US/Israel with the help of the UK and others fucked up the Middle East, which caused migrations, and Germany and others welcomed them with open arms. That was all so smart..

I was in the Netherlands twice recently, so many Muslims, they are all behaving now, but it was fairly clear that if that country wasn't rich as fuck, there would already be problems.

[Impenitent]

it is Sunni v Shia as well

-Imp

[FlashDangerpants]

Doesn't matter what Muslims you know as their behaviour changes once they reach critical mass in a country. What you have to do is look at Islamic countries.

I don't think you have evidence in support of that claim

I do, Islam by its nature can't be integrated into Christian countries. It's their way or the highway.

I was asking about a claim involving critical mass. You seem to be asserting that when these islamic types reach a critical mass they stop being the UK born muslims with fairly typical British attitudes on the whole and turn into some sort of Taliban. And I am asking about the evidence for this.