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What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am
by Anark
What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:26 am
by Age
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
'Time' is not an actual thing, itself, but just a concept of, or the actual measuring, the duration between perceived events.

When the word 'time' is looked at from this perspective, then other things fit together much easier and simpler while also becoming much clearer, as well.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 10:39 am
by promethean75
It's what's ticking away the moments that make up a dull day as you fritter and waste the hours in an offhand way?

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Tue Jun 03, 2025 2:20 pm
by Anark
Its just a sadistic and regretfull sentences which describes the time but that is not what science sees

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:16 am
by Eodnhoj7
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
One distinction occurring relative to another.

A clock moves it's hand. The distinction of the hand at point A changes to the distinction of the hand at point B. The change of the hand in the positions is the expansion of space as point A and point B, this expansion is change. If this positions contract into one point there is no point A or B and hence no time as change ceases as there is no distinction of point A or B relative to eachother for the measurement of time to occur.

This is one of many ways to view it.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 12:05 pm
by Impenitent
What is time Fundamentally?

ask me tomorrow...

-Imp

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:24 pm
by Anark
Impenitent wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 12:05 pm What is time Fundamentally?

ask me tomorrow...

-Imp


Hahaha that was a good one

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:32 pm
by Anark
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:16 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
One distinction occurring relative to another.

A clock moves it's hand. The distinction of the hand at point A changes to the distinction of the hand at point B. The change of the hand in the positions is the expansion of space as point A and point B, this expansion is change. If this positions contract into one point there is no point A or B and hence no time as change ceases as there is no distinction of point A or B relative to eachother for the measurement of time to occur.

This is one of many ways to view it.

I understand you mean
Time is like noticing a difference between "before" and "after."
If there's no difference — everything is the same — then there's no way to tell that time is passing. But what the reality is different about time, rather than being difference between events it is a flow of change of universe ,But what if this change is not unidirectional ?

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:37 pm
by Anark
Age wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:26 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
'Time' is not an actual thing, itself, but just a concept of, or the actual measuring, the duration between perceived events.

When the word 'time' is looked at from this perspective, then other things fit together much easier and simpler while also becoming much clearer, as well.
The world is a complex place where things are different from what it seems to be.what if it is something more than the difference between before and after?

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Wed Jun 04, 2025 6:00 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Anark wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:32 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:16 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
One distinction occurring relative to another.

A clock moves it's hand. The distinction of the hand at point A changes to the distinction of the hand at point B. The change of the hand in the positions is the expansion of space as point A and point B, this expansion is change. If this positions contract into one point there is no point A or B and hence no time as change ceases as there is no distinction of point A or B relative to eachother for the measurement of time to occur.

This is one of many ways to view it.

I understand you mean
Time is like noticing a difference between "before" and "after."
If there's no difference — everything is the same — then there's no way to tell that time is passing. But what the reality is different about time, rather than being difference between events it is a flow of change of universe ,But what if this change is not unidirectional ?
It's not strictly linear.

Point A then Point B, the space between them is time. The key is "the space between them". So time is space. Linear? Yes.

The repetition of the thing at point A and point B is cyclical. At the meta level it is the repetition of the point as "point A" and "point B". Repetition, you could say recursion if you want, is cyclicality.

Now this is where it gets mindbending. Point A only exists because of Point B, without Point B than Point A is indistinct and non existent. Point A only exists because of the future as Point B....so stating the obvious the past and present affects the future, but inversely the present and future defines the past as the future of point A as point B allows point A to occur as point A. Future events define the past through the present. A Circle.

So time is simultaneously linear and circular.

And to be a broken record, this is one of many ways of viewing it...there are many others and you seem to be finding your own.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2025 7:36 pm
by Walker
Age wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:26 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
'Time' is not an actual thing, itself, but just a concept of, or the actual measuring, the duration between perceived events.

When the word 'time' is looked at from this perspective, then other things fit together much easier and simpler while also becoming much clearer, as well.
Apparently, time is fundamentally man’s imposition of order upon the natural world, by correlating naturally occurring frequencies to perception, thereby discovering predictable, repeatable patterns. The frequencies range from atomic (clocks) to seasonal (sundials) to galactic (cosmic, Man.)

Natural frequencies are natural things. Some are slower relative to others, which is how never-existing Black Dwarfs are predicted to someday be.

Ageless means unchanging, therefore, Age means changing.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:45 am
by Age
Anark wrote: Wed Jun 04, 2025 5:37 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:26 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
'Time' is not an actual thing, itself, but just a concept of, or the actual measuring, the duration between perceived events.

When the word 'time' is looked at from this perspective, then other things fit together much easier and simpler while also becoming much clearer, as well.
The world is a complex place where things are different from what it seems to be.what if it is something more than the difference between before and after?
But, contrary to the popular belief, in the days when this is being written, 'the world' is not complex at all. In fact it is the very opposite, which is what is actually True, and Right.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2025 2:47 am
by Age
Walker wrote: Thu Jun 05, 2025 7:36 pm
Age wrote: Tue Jun 03, 2025 6:26 am
Anark wrote: Fri May 30, 2025 10:23 am What is time? So the best answers of this would be "it is a change in space ".These is what we experienced everyday but this means it's a change and generally change is not something which can be reversible as it contradic the possibilities of time travel,but what time is more than a change in space?as strings theory spacetime continuum is not the fundamental it self, would it mean it can be broken it to more fundamental elements and arranged it ? Does that mean time can work as spatial vector?
'Time' is not an actual thing, itself, but just a concept of, or the actual measuring, the duration between perceived events.

When the word 'time' is looked at from this perspective, then other things fit together much easier and simpler while also becoming much clearer, as well.
Apparently, time is fundamentally man’s imposition of order upon the natural world, by correlating naturally occurring frequencies to perception, thereby discovering predictable, repeatable patterns. The frequencies range from atomic (clocks) to seasonal (sundials) to galactic (cosmic, Man.)

Natural frequencies are natural things. Some are slower relative to others, which is how never-existing Black Dwarfs are predicted to someday be.

Ageless means unchanging, therefore, Age means changing.
'Apparently ...'.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2025 4:00 am
by Relinquish
Both the "remembrance of earlier moments" and the "anticipation of later moments" (leading to the impression of an increasing distance between earlier moments and the Present, and a decreasing distance between later moments and the Present) make the ceaseless flux of the Present SEEM to be a movement "from" earlier moments "to" later moments.

In other words, remembrance and anticipation make the Present SEEM to be a "movement through time".

However, as both earlier and later moments (and the steadily increasing/decreasing temporal distance between them and the Present) are not actually anywhere to be found beyond the finite mind, the Present cannot ACTUALLY be a movement from earlier moments to later moments through time. This apparent movement is nothing more than the ILLUSION of time.

Flux itself is logically beginningless and endless, and is therefore timelessly present.

Re: What is time Fundamentally?

Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2025 6:50 pm
by Frank M. DiMeglio
Time is necessarily possible/potential AND actual on/in balance. Time is necessarily electromagnetic/gravitational on/in balance. Indeed, the ability of thought to describe OR RECONFIGURE sensory experience is ultimately dependent upon the extent to which thought is similar to sensory experience. (Thoughts are invisible.)