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Hello everyone

I'm new to the forum and to formal philosophy discussions, but I’ve recently been developing a personal theory that has roots in Iqbal’s conception of time and spirituality, while also engaging with Einstein’s relativity and modern scientific theories like dark energy and quantum consciousness.

The core of my theory is that there may be different layers of time — one governing material, physical experience (Einsteinian time) and another governing immaterial experience (like in dreams or deep meditation).

I suggest that in meditation or dreams, we are not escaping time, but actually connecting to a different form of energy — something I’m calling a Universal Real Energy — that exists physically but is not yet fully measurable by science. This energy may allow consciousness to perceive time differently, perhaps even access future or parallel states.

My question to fellow thinkers here:
Do you think it’s possible that time is not singular, but stratified?
Could dreams or deep meditation be windows into different layers of time/energy?
And could science ever detect or prove such a connection?

I welcome your critiques, questions, or expansions. I’d love to evolve this theory further — even towards experiments or a philosophical essay — with help from more experienced thinkers.

Thanks for having me here!

Aaljah

Aalijah wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 12:18 pm Hello everyone

I'm new to the forum and to formal philosophy discussions, but I’ve recently been developing a personal theory that has roots in Iqbal’s conception of time and spirituality, while also engaging with Einstein’s relativity and modern scientific theories like dark energy and quantum consciousness.

The core of my theory is that there may be different layers of time — one governing material, physical experience (Einsteinian time) and another governing immaterial experience (like in dreams or deep meditation).

I suggest that in meditation or dreams, we are not escaping time, but actually connecting to a different form of energy — something I’m calling a Universal Real Energy — that exists physically but is not yet fully measurable by science. This energy may allow consciousness to perceive time differently, perhaps even access future or parallel states.

My question to fellow thinkers here:
Do you think it’s possible that time is not singular, but stratified?
Could dreams or deep meditation be windows into different layers of time/energy?
And could science ever detect or prove such a connection?

I welcome your critiques, questions, or expansions. I’d love to evolve this theory further — even towards experiments or a philosophical essay — with help from more experienced thinkers.

Thanks for having me here!

Aaljah

Hello Aalijah. You won't get much formal philosophy here! I'll be cruel to be kind : ) And I'm just an old nobody on the bus. Ignore me. Others will be just cruel, mad, resonant and all three. For 'personal theory' read 'idea'. Iqbal was an Islamic thinker, i.e. downstream of belief, which is a dirty word for me. He impressed Bergson. Who impressed other philosophers in taking on Einstein. Bergson comes therefore dialectically disadvantaged. Philosophy doesn't trump physics. Dark energy is theory beyond the theory of dark matter. And quantum consciousness isn't even wrong.

You don't have a theory. Time to Einstein was one of four flexible necessary number lines, with no direction. A coordinate system. To position anything. It has no 2-3D layers. And virtually none of it is experienced. All experience is material nonetheless. Even the virtual. And it's all virtual. Where the perception of time is even more flexible. URE is... grandiose. It doesn't exist. It hasn't been measured by science (what else?) at all. Consciousness doesn't need woo to perceive time differently. At all. It needs experience. Drugs. Fatigue. Boredom. Deadlines. There is no future to access, regardless of what eternalists, like Einstein, say. Even if they're right. And there are no accessible parallel many world states. They are utterly unfalsifiable 'ideas'.

To your question. No. No. No.

Good sci-fi fantasy. Doctor Who level. Tenet even. That's utterly, utterly brilliant. Suspends disbelief instantly. We do love a good fairie story.

Hi Martin. I'm grateful for your honesty. Thank You. You know Iqbal; it will be hard for me to ignore you now. The thing is that if you are 'just an old nobody on the bus' then I see myself as a naive child on the bike, very keen and optimistic. I can be ignored as well. Then who is it that shouldn't be ignored? I lay no claim to knowledge, theory, structure or enlightenment. Its just curiosity, amazement, and longing to know what people out there think. Its not about right or wrong either. If people like yourself just honestly give their analysis, opinion without rage and insolence then maybe ideas could be formed and reformed to something more substantial and worthwhile pondering and debating about.

Most gracious Aalijah. Which is never wrong.