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Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm Not everyone can even imagine an epiphany. It is a remarkable experience. It often changes your Life.

I had an epiphany when I was still in diapers, before I could speak. At that time, kids use ostensive gestures to communicate. I could understand when spoken to, but I had not learnt how to speak the words, so I could not make myself understood. To make it short, I realized that there was a right way to do everything. It defined my life, but it does not mean I always followed it. I had some pretty far off the beaten track experiences. In the simple, epiphanies are a time when you connect the dots and you can see the outcome. When we do things right, when we know the right way, we save life, that is our job.
All a mind does is process information in order to save our life. That is a basic and simple fact. Plato pointed out that connection in Alcibiades 1. We are mind, and our job is life.

Finally, you are, although very, very painstakingly slowly, just starting to reveal, elaborate, explain, and clarify more and more, here.

Why you just could not have done it, from 'the start', when I asked you some clarifying questions, was completely unnecessary.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm Now, if you investigate the idea, it leads to grammar, and information processing, Common Grammar, Arithmetic, Algebra and Geometry, these four make up our Grammar Matrix.
For me, it is actually painful listening to minds that do not function by any standard of order.

Now 'you' know how 'we' feel reading and listening to 'your words', here.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm I probably read more than most people in history before, I read Plato.

Why do you continually come back to telling 'us' how great and marvelous you believe you are?

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm As soon I had started reading Plato, I felt the memory of my first epiphany, here is a mind that is very well ordered.

It can not be too well 'ordered' if only you follow, idolize, and idealize such 'a one'.

Also, are you aware that all of those 'others' who some human being follow, admire, or worship, in 'scientific' or 'theological' religions also consider 'the one' is very well ordered, also? So, you are certainly not alone, here, in your believing in and worshiping of just 'another one'.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm When I had my IQ test in grade school, I was given it because my teachers were sure I was mentally handicapped. Fact is, I will not parrot bull shit.

Absolutely no one parrots so-called 'bull shit', as doing so would go completely against there very belief/s. So, again, you are certainly not alone, here, and certainly not out of the ordinary, here.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm And, the test results, claiming I was smarter than anyone in the school, kind of pisses off those who believe they know better.

you absolutely love, and absolutely thrive on, telling others how great and marvelous you believe you are, right?

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm There is a right way to do everything, the universe is well ordered, and the computer today, proves it just like Plato's grammar lessons.

So, instead of just alluding to 'some thing', why do you not just say and write what that, supposed and alleged, 'right way' is, exactly?

See, if you just did this, then others would learn, and know, what 'the right way' is, as well.

Now, of course the Universe, Itself, is so-called 'well ordered', for the very simple fact that it could not be in any 'other way'.

And, if some computer, 'today', supposedly and allegedly, proves 'it', then just say what 'it' is, exactly, and then just present 'that computer', and show, exactly, how 'that computer' proves 'it', exactly?

Again, if you do not, then what you are claiming and alluding to will remain in the 'this' is just "phil8659's" opinion and/or imagination, ONLY.

Furthermore, why do you not just say what you claim is to be "plato's" 'lessons', exactly, and thus just 'teach' 'that' to 'us'? you seem to have some sort of belief that 'that lesson' is so, so very important, so why would you not just 'teach' 'that lesson'?

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm If this were not so, mankind would not have a future, there would be no brighter future for anyone.

Once more, what 'this' is, and what 'it' relates to, exactly, is all up for guessing.

Are you sure you are not losing the ability to just express your views and beliefs clearly, and in a 'logically clear way'?

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm So, here I am 74 years later, and I still follow the light I found while too small even to speak.

Yet, the so-called 'light' has not really led you to being able to explain any thing that others did not already know.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm The day I had the epiphany, I was still being carried up and down the stairs, each step was almost half of my height, yet that day, I had to go up and down the stairs for the first time, by myself, in order to prove a point.

Again, you express another sentence, which does not logically relate to any thing, including to even its own self.

I could break this sentence of yours, here, into about five different things, and ask clarifying questions for each one in order to just try to make sense what 'this sentence' is even on about, but if I did you would not explain, elaborate, nor clarify anyway, correct?

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm I figured it out, by sliding on my ass for each step, but I still did not make my point with proof, as I still could not speak what I was trying to show.

And, about 73 later there is, still, not another human being who even knows what you are just trying to convey, here, let alone what 'it' is that you are, still, trying to show and prove, here.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 19, 2025 5:22 pm People cannot speak for two reasons, physical development and mental development. If one cannot use words in accordance with the truth of things, then they are as handicapped as I was.

Why do you say and use the word, 'was', here?

you, obviously, still, lack a great deal in 'your ability' to just convey and express 'words', 'meanings', and 'messages'.

And, you are certainly not using words in 'actual accordance' with the actual Truth of things, here.

Bark, bark, bark.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 2:30 am Bark, bark, bark. Another doggie. Too bad it is just another wild one. Fuck off asshole. You are too stupid to even know what "stay on topic means" too bad you are uneducable.

So, once again, 'this one' proves that it does not presently have the ability to comprehend, understand, reason, nor even just discuss ideas and views. it certainly can not back up its own beliefs and claims, but this is just the result of having and maintaining False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect views and ideas. Which I obviously have pointed out and shown, here, which 'this one' is not able to counter nor refute.

Bark, bark bark.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:37 am Bark, bark bark, the only job this doggy could get in the circus, a sociopathic barking dog.

Why do 'your words' appear far, far less immature than 'your age'?

Is there just not one single point that I made above, here, which you could counter or refute, or, just one claim of yours that you could actually back up and support with a sound and valid argument, or with some proof at all?

Bark, bark, bark,

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 6:46 am Bark, bark, bark, the only doggie in history born at the level of his incompetency; bark, bark, what's that? you don't like to work for anything? Well, you got your own spot in the Unnoticeable Rag.
Good thing this forum doubles as a place for the homeless.

Really, is 'this' all you have got, and in a philosophy forum of all places.

bark, bark, bark. Look at my contributions, I bark! Wow! what an accomplishment.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 20, 2025 7:14 am bark, bark, bark. Look at my contributions, I bark! Wow! what an accomplishment.

Confrontational therapy. Last I studied it, they said it eventually works.

Confrontational Therapy.
I once got very angry while in a Lucid Dream State. I went in with a clear question, which I asked, but as usual I got my answer in visual metaphor. I got mad, I wanted a clear and simple answer in English. So, After I had my fit, I was approached, and followed this guy, who had me sit down under a tree. Then he said, "And how do you feel about your progress?" That one statement hit me like a club, and completely broke me down. I woke up crying. What the fuck was I bitching about? I am not a teacher of anything. I was so ashamed of myself.

So, there is a real art to confrontational therapy, but I really do not know it. I eventually learnt the reason for visual metaphor. It takes time and study to completely understand an answer, and it is a really good mental exercise. Every system of grammar has its working component in metaphor, universal applicability.

I applied it a few times in my life, as the following; this guy got me from behind in a head lock, he had this idea he was some kind a tough guy. So I calmly said, do you want me to sing you a bar from Macho Man? That floored him, he was so embarrassed he quickly released me, stammering, no, of course not.