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Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:06 pm
by Ben JS
Satyr's final post on PN through main account:
Satyr wrote: Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:58 am I love Nazism, bitch...move on.

That's all you need to know.
[...]
Satyr agreed to the terms of service of a site,
with the express purpose to break them,
and when they're banned,
create a new account and pretend to be someone else.
Pistolero wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:23 pmHi.
What now?
Pistolero wrote: Sat Apr 05, 2025 1:25 pm Strange.
How can I get my posts approved?
How long does this take?
As though he hasn't already been through the process multiple times.
'Hey, I'm not Satyr, guys!' - Bitch move.

That's a representation of their integrity.
Ready to lie and manipulate to get their way.
They participate on forums by the rules of war,
where they'll readily engage in deceit -
and if this is highlighted,
they'll say 'So what?'.
They'll welcome anyone to be deceived.

Satyr has admitted this numerous times.
He has no intent to communicate in good faith,
and will readily lie to realize his outcomes.

This reduces credibility of new members,
and the willingness to offer support / welcome them to community,
when they may just be another sock puppet on this asshole - or any of his lackeys.
Sewing discord, paranoia and discourages behavior that sustains the health of site membership.

He has no respect for those he communicates with,
and often frames his manipulations of others as -
'toying' or 'amusing himself'.
This is a cover for his feverish desperation
to undermine anything that threatens his house of jokers.

He is extremely fragile and volatile,
which why he dedicates so much energy to his rhetoric -
he's a glass cannon - a troll that stands between others and truth.
Seeking to intimidate and poison,
anything you convince others from traveling past.
Anyone who goes further, upon looking back at this fool -
that behind all the posturing and fake imagery,
is a transparent, fragile coward -
the epitome of unhealth,
seeking the disempowerment of his peers,
to protect his own fragility.
Ben JS wrote: [Satyr aka Pistolero aka:]
Lorikeet lives in a house of straw.
They recognize this and the inherent dilemma of it’s frailty to the winds of change.
Instead of refining their home,
their defense strategy is offense.

They’ve built an arsenal of weaponry,
and attempt to draw everyone’s attention to others,
as an opportunity to showcase their weaponry -
an intimidation tactic, to discourage from inspecting the instigator.

Others may build their castle, their monuments over time,
adjusting to the changing environment - growing stronger.
While Lorikeet continually pecks away against greater & greater odds,
all the while, returning back to their stagnate nest,
that others disregarded long ago,
with a wind since passed,
much akin to Lorikeet,
remnants of another era -
living in a simpler time.
He is a plagiarist.
He creates nothing worthwhile.
He studies others, and hijacks their ideas -
using them to give credibility to his ignorance.
Ben JS - Shoehorned Ignorance (2022) wrote:People are bewildering others with communal knowledge,
information that is public and respected [or plagiarizing others as their own work],
then shoehorning their corrupt ideas within them,
such that one’s respect for the communal knowledge
is falsely given the impression of weight to shoehorned corruption.

They do not demonstrate the connection between the communal knowledge and their corrupt ideas.
They hope to impress you with communal knowledge, such that you take it as evidence for corrupt ideas.
But the communal knowledge does not support the corruption, it is used to mask it.
‘Here’s a cup of 9 parts water, to 1 part poison. How can you argue with that refreshing taste?’

They know if they presented their corrupt ideas at face value,
without being masked and finessed into your consideration,
that you’d immediately recognize the corruption -
so they develop strategies of beguilement.
-
But how else would racists get by?

Ignorant beings,
concocting their poisons in the shadows,
and seeking to spread their hate.

What else to do with hate,
than throw it in the faces of the public?
They surely couldn’t bear directing it inwardly.

They’re the superior beings, remember?
If they’re filled with anger,
surely it can’t be their own fault.
He already has his own personal sewer,
yet they're so desperate to participate elsewhere.
Not content to fester in the sewer they made.

Satyr wants to drag everyone down in the mud with him,
undermine every sincere discussion -
sew the seeds of discord wherever he goes.

The child who destroys the sandbox,
because they're continually rejected by others.
The imbalance of power due to entropy -
to destroy order is far easier than to create it,
as entropy is the direction of most forces.
Tragedy of the commons.

Satyr (and his lackeys) will flood every conversation.
Attempting to drown out all balanced discussion,
skew the perception of popular opinion -
leaving the uninformed bystander beguiled.

Strings of bad faith, loaded questions,
Latent with implications, but plausible deniability.
Smearing others, whilst shielding themselves through deception.

A space for the open minded to speak freely,
is a catalyst for their empowerment via the accumulation of truth & understanding.
These are the enemy to the one who hides behind division, deceit and falsehood.

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Where does it stem from?

The consensus is, Satyr is a closeted gay man.
Likely raised in a generation where this wasn't supported.
Which produced cognitive dissonance, and he started mental gymnastics to compensate.
The classic self hating homosexual, who triples down on conservative rhetoric.
He opines about natural selection and those who are weak / impotent,
which is him describing the perception of his own sexuality -
'I am gay. This is a mistake, evolutionarily speaking. Of what do I offer the world?'
There're plenty of answers to this question, but he's so deep in his grave to hear them.

So he's stuck, filled with rage, that he isn't prepared to direct inwardly -
so by him simply being, is a source of endless torment,
which he must get away from himself, because he cannot bear it.

His solution: To spew his venom at any who resemble his core self.
A sad, sad man. Tied to what will likely be his grave, from those who raised him.

While we can have compassion for his situation,
we cannot allow his behavior to undermine communities.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:08 pm
by Ben JS
Ben JS wrote: Thu Apr 17, 2025 10:01 pm Wiki:
Paradox of Tolerance wrote:The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance.
Google (AI Summary):
Paradox of Tolerance wrote: The paradox of tolerance, articulated by philosopher Karl Popper, suggests that unlimited tolerance must inevitably lead to the disappearance of tolerance. This is because a society that tolerates intolerance risks enabling the intolerant to suppress the tolerant, ultimately undermining the very principle of tolerance it strives to uphold.
Here's a more detailed explanation:

The Core Idea:
Popper argued that while it's essential to be tolerant of diverse viewpoints, there must be limits to what a tolerant society will accept. If a society tolerates ideologies or actions that are inherently intolerant, it risks allowing those intolerant forces to gain power and eventually eliminate tolerance for all.

Self-Defeating Tolerance:
The paradox highlights the potential for a society to become self-defeating by extending tolerance too broadly. By tolerating those who are intolerant, it risks allowing them to exploit that tolerance to establish a new form of intolerance.

Justification for Intolerance of Intolerance:
The paradox is often used to justify certain restrictions on speech or actions that are considered to be inherently intolerant or harmful. The argument is that a society must sometimes be intolerant of intolerance in order to protect its own values and principles, and even its survival.

Real-World Examples:
The paradox is often invoked in discussions about hate speech, hate crimes, and other issues where the line between free speech and intolerance is debated. For example, some argue that while free speech is a fundamental right, it should not extend to hate speech that incites violence or discrimination against marginalized groups.

Balancing Tolerance and Self-Defense:
The paradox raises the important question of how to balance the principles of tolerance and self-defense. A society must strive to be inclusive and accepting of diverse viewpoints, but it must also be vigilant in protecting itself from those who would undermine its fundamental values and principles, according to the paradox.
It is not the people, we must be intolerant of, if we are to defend the principles of tolerance -
but the ideas and the actions of the person.

We need not condemn the person to condemn their behavior or ideas.

Ignorance and unhealthy trajectories must be be challenged.

Some only understand aggression,
only respect aggression -
sometimes an effective initial step,
is a display of force..
not because this is how we want all interactions to be,
but because this is the way to break through the barriers of certain ignorances.

If a person has a tumor,
sometimes the crude solution is best -
as there's very few alternatives.
Cutting people open isn't the ideal.

In the future,
we can exercise prevention,
and education on what causes tumors.
Our approach for the future,
can appear different than our approach for the present.

-

Now, what constitutes unhealthy behavior and views is up for much debate -
and likely an ever evolving concept, with the culture, standards & understandings of the time.

But, there are some pretty evidently dangerous ones.
Like for example,
The ones that led the entire planet to engage in war.

Wouldn't you know it -
When the entire world was at war,
some people started to ask:
how the fuck did this happen?
and if we survive this,
how do we stop it from never happening again?

They came up with some good answers -
spawned from the utter misery of the conditions they lived.
How to protect the future, from the pitfalls of our ignorances.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:09 pm
by Ben JS
https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/vermin/49404
Ben JS to Satyr/Lorikeet - 2023 wrote:
Some who are weak minded worship their misconceptions surrounding natural selection.
Did you know natural selection doesn’t give a fuck about you or any other of it’s outcomes?
Natural selection doesn’t care if anything lives or dies.
It doesn’t care if anything is strong or weak in your puny evaluation.
Your appeals are to a higher power that is completely indifferent to you - very religious.
These appeals are weak, like your mind, with it’s many errors, indifferently endowed to you by your idol.

Did you know while we’re here, we could overpower natural selection?
Did you know, we could destroy the planet and along with all life forms on the planet,
thus rendering no opportunity for natural selection to take place in the vicinity?
Did you know we could invent artificial machines to methodically kill all lifeforms it encounters,
thus killing the seeds of natural selection in the reach of these machines?
Or you know, twisting it to our own ends - creating artificial selection. Like we’re already doing.
Cause you know… we can do that.
It’s kind of like, with the application of our intelligence, natural selection can’t constrain us.

Might makes right, right?

Racists out there worship their misconceptions about natural selection,
then sulk in the corner about how their idol is getting dicked on like a bitch.
Natural selection has many lessons to teach,
but we needn’t let it dictate how we ought live our lives.

How about a little independent thinking,
and take the courage to develop a philosophy that rests on your own back,
absent of your appeals to greater authorities,
and absent of the plagiarized thoughts of others…

But we all know the bird would rather peck at strawmen,
or incessantly screech it’s carnal vitriol,
lest another has the opportunity to expose this winged rat’s charade -
or to do something more interesting than fight civilization’s vermin.

==

Maybe the racists like getting dicked on in the footsteps of their idol -
as many have seemed to accuse the winged rat of in the past.
I wonder if being gay is a mistake to this religious zealot.
Was he not accused of grooming the underage ILP mannequin?
We all know religions borrow from each other. :-"
Something else plagiarized for the cult.
Is this where the inferiority stems from?
Which role model vomited racism into this fragile ego?
The parents? Just being like Mommy and Daddy - no independence.
Or was it another relative? A void from Mommy and Daddy’s indifference to you,
pushing you towards anyone that would show you affection - a replacement leader to grovel at.
Was it an older friend or peer you looked up to? Who you wanted to be like so very, very much - as being yourself was not enough. Self hatred.
Or maybe you dropped the ball on your first self influenced decision, rookie stuff btw, and ran straight into ignorance -
never being able to correct this error, because it would shatter the corroded foundation of your identity.

Frail little punk, sulking with it’s gang, about how world has moved past you in your pitfall.
‘The rat has wings, and still managed to trap itself in a hole. Darwin award, I guess.’

Ta ta, birdy.

==

Your entire post history in relation to others is one long series of ad hom.
All you do is paint people in the least charitable light your cunty mind can muster.
Straw man after straw man.
Your dumb ass doesn’t realize there’s multiple ‘plausible’ explanations to an event.
You know in a court of law, where the jury is torn between multiple explanations for an event?
There is a correct one, but your bitch ass only can consider one explanation: the one that appeals to your **** sensibilities.
The one that feeds your arrogance and conceitment.
The one that allows you to shield your racism.
The irony of your sickliness is palpable.
Being persuasive doesn’t mean being correct, vomitguts.
Hey, hypocrite, crying about ad hom in the same post you call the other a retard is peak obliviousness.
It’s easy to wallow on your level - but you can only give it.
Old fart bitching about the world revolving past them.
The world ain’t giving a fuck when your ‘wisdom’ is lost to the tides of time.
You join a chorus of noise that brings shame to future generations -
a lesson in what not to do.
I know you’re not here in the interests genuine dialogue.
Your disrespect for anyone who doesn’t toe your racist line is evidence of this.
There’s mountains of literature shitting on your beliefs, you ain’t interested.
Make your peace, birdy - the world don’t care about your ideals.
Those who held them got shit on.
North won. Cry into your flags about it.

Now go head and try to drag everyone else down with your drowning ass.
Clawing desperately at anything to appease your cognitive dissonance -
a life drowning in your own vomit.
Appealing to standards openly now?
Want a safety net to pull you from the grave you dug?
Your instincts led you astray - natural selection left you in the lurch.
Sucks to suck, punk.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:10 pm
by Pistolero
I do believe Benny wants something to happen...but he cannot make it happen himself...

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:11 pm
by Ben JS
As I can be bothered,
I'll probably compile instances of his racist playbook here.
Reference sheet for recognizing his degeneracy.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:14 pm
by Pistolero
Nothing of quality...only the usual insults.

Promoting Satyr's work....nice.
Don't let me interrupt.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:14 pm
by Ben JS
Pistolero wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:10 pm I do believe Benny wants something to happen...but he cannot make it happen himself...
Unlike you,
I'll keep the character assassination of you to this thread.
I will not derail every other thread spewing about your flaws.
I know you don't have that same respect for the forum.

Who wins when we ruin each other's reputation, fool?
Who has greater to fall?
The one with the bigger ego, perhaps..

I'm an idiot.
But if I can detail the reasons you're full of shit - that's a success.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:15 pm
by Ben JS
Pistolero wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:14 pm Nothing of quality...only the usual insults.

Promoting Satyr's work....nice.
Don't let me interrupt.
Perhaps a mirror to someone else around here..

An opportunity for self reflection, numpty.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:16 pm
by Pistolero
What a tiny victory, from a tiny little man....in a tiny little forum.
Congrats.... You da man.

Post away.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:17 pm
by Ben JS
I'm actually off to go about my day.

Don't forget to work on adding to those 60000+ posts you have, bud.

All quality.

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 10:58 am
by Martin Peter Clarke
Ben JS wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:14 pm
Pistolero wrote: Fri Apr 18, 2025 11:10 pm I do believe Benny wants something to happen...but he cannot make it happen himself...
Unlike you,
I'll keep the character assassination of you to this thread.
I will not derail every other thread spewing about your flaws.
I know you don't have that same respect for the forum.

Who wins when we ruin each other's reputation, fool?
Who has greater to fall?
The one with the bigger ego, perhaps..

I'm an idiot.
But if I can detail the reasons you're full of shit - that's a success.
: ) hi Ben. Thank you for your service. In dubious battle, Martin

Re: Dissection of a 'Satyr'

Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2025 11:26 am
by accelafine
They are equally repellent and monstrous, which doesn't seem possible without being the same person.