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No not the great boxer. Martin Peter Clarke, 10/07/54, church caretaker. Lower middle class ADHD grammar school kid. Lancaster Uni '75, B.Sc.(Hons.), and we all know what that means, in Biological Sciences. Everything from blast furnace operator to Oracle DBA. But. More relevantly? Cult associate and member, '69-97. The cult - The Worldwide Church of God, Armstrongism - deconstructed itself around that time and I just kept going through epicycles of de/re-construction with accompanying greater iterations of cognitive dissonance within orthodox Christianity, till Covid come. And I deconstructed down the lift shaft. Now a born again atheist. But not hostile to believers. Mainly. Some of my best friends are believers. Philosophy Now is, I'm afraid, just perfect. A friend used to pass on his copies and then bought me a 70th subscription. I just did a the same for a friend of 40. And it shows me how much of my life, 56 years, I've wasted. Apart from distilling a drop of Limoncello from all the lemons. I believe now only in aspiring to kindness, to the Rogerian. And that nature fully explains everything, including the 'fine tuned' universe fallacy. Or rather I know that. Happy to have my rough hewn, bloke on the bus, ill-read thinking challenged. The best that Christianity has to offer, fails.

"Now a born again atheist. But not hostile to believers"

When i reached a point where i no longer believed clearing religion from working class heads would be enough to incite them to revolution, i too stopped being hostile toward it (religion) and am now indifferent. Except for being an incredible annoyance, i don't mind em.

I will admit one advantage to having Christians around. Real ones, not the bad weather christians. They won't steal your shit. Flip side of that, though, is that they'll snitch on you in a new york minute. As with anything, there are pros and cons i reckon.

Greetings from sunny Brum. And very smelly Brum too, at the moment. I'm assuming that's Leicester, UK, that you're from, judging by the rest of your post, which is not a million miles away, of course. The last time I was in Leicester was in February 2020, I believe, just before the world went mad.

I've heard of Armstrongism. They believe that the British and Americans are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, don't they?

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 9:50 pm "Now a born again atheist. But not hostile to believers"

When i reached a point where i no longer believed clearing religion from working class heads would be enough to incite them to revolution, i too stopped being hostile toward it (religion) and am now indifferent. Except for being an incredible annoyance, i don't mind em.

I will admit one advantage to having Christians around. Real ones, not the bad weather christians. They won't steal your shit. Flip side of that, though, is that they'll snitch on you in a new york minute. As with anything, there are pros and cons i reckon.

Missed this, promethean75, thanks.

Maia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:21 am Greetings from sunny Brum. And very smelly Brum too, at the moment. I'm assuming that's Leicester, UK, that you're from, judging by the rest of your post, which is not a million miles away, of course. The last time I was in Leicester was in February 2020, I believe, just before the world went mad.

I've heard of Armstrongism. They believe that the British and Americans are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, don't they?

Yes Maia. & sorry I missed you. How've you bin?!

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Tue May 13, 2025 9:08 am

Maia wrote: ↑Fri Apr 18, 2025 7:21 am Greetings from sunny Brum. And very smelly Brum too, at the moment. I'm assuming that's Leicester, UK, that you're from, judging by the rest of your post, which is not a million miles away, of course. The last time I was in Leicester was in February 2020, I believe, just before the world went mad.

I've heard of Armstrongism. They believe that the British and Americans are descended from the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel, don't they?

Yes Maia. & sorry I missed you. How've you bin?!

I've been wheelie good, thanks.