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It amounts to asking the man to confirm something that he cannot possibly know with certainty.

So, the man is basically supposed to declare that he believes what the mother of the child is telling him about the paternity of the child. What happens if she is not telling the truth? That is where the western legal system really gets funny. When the mother is not telling the truth, you will see that:

(1) The mother is not held accountable in any way.
(2) The man is still held financially responsible for believing her lies.

ChatGPT: How much does it cost to raise a child in the USA?

Raising a child in the U.S. can be pretty expensive, and the cost can vary a lot depending on where you live, your lifestyle, and your family's income level. But here are some general estimates:

Overall Cost (Birth to Age 18)

According to a USDA report (the most recent full data is from 2017), the average cost to raise a child from birth to age 18 is:

~$233,610 (in 2015 dollars), or about $272,000+ when adjusted for inflation to 2025.

This does not include college tuition.

In those circumstances, no man should sign such document. It does not matter whether he believes what the mother says or not. Better safe than sorry.

Legally both parents have to sign birth registration, which I think is ridiculous anyway. If a woman doesn't want the father on the birth certificate then that should be her choice. As it stands, she is forced to put 'unknown' if she doesn't want some useless cockhead in her life for the next 18 years.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:33 am As it stands, she is forced to put 'unknown' if she doesn't want some useless cockhead in her life for the next 18 years.

Well, why did she choose to make a baby with a useless cockhead? It sounds like she is allowing pretty much everybody and their little brother to unload their DNA into her body. Was she drunk or so? Some women get really angry when you tell them that they would benefit from being more selective. My body, my choice! Even if it is a useless cockhead!

godelian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:48 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:33 am As it stands, she is forced to put 'unknown' if she doesn't want some useless cockhead in her life for the next 18 years.

Well, why did she choose to make a baby with a useless cockhead? It sounds like she is allowing pretty much everybody and their little brother to unload their DNA into her body. Was she drunk or so? Some women get really angry when you tell them that they would benefit from being more selective. My body, my choice! Even if it is a useless cockhead!

You just said men shouldn't have to sign, fuckwit. I'm agreeing. Why do men like you choose to breed with prostitutes in third world countries?

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:12 am Why do men like you choose to breed with prostitutes in third world countries?

Pretty much all women at some point want money.

I don't mind, actually. Men typically respond to that by seeking to make money, preferably a lot of it.

In terms of price/quality, women are much prettier and younger for the same budget in SE Asia. If you compare apples to apples, you get a lot more. So, according to standard economic consumer theory, I am simply maximizing the utility of my money. Why should I pay more for less? In what language on the planet would that make sense?

By the way, women who want money from their man, are not prostitutes. They are just women.

Icky little man. Most women want a handsome man with a big dick actually.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:34 am Icky little man.

Do you really think I care when an undesirable woman says this? The women that I am with are much prettier and much younger than you. I know because pretty, young women would never make this kind of remark. They have not built up already the frustrations that you seem to have.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 9:34 am Most women want a handsome man with a big dick actually.

Yes, they undoubtedly do. Concerning the big dick part, they can't see that before it is too late. So, I doubt that they are able to select on that basis.

The real problem is, however, does that handsome man want them? For how long? It sounds too much like trying to turn alphafucks into betabucks, which is a strategy that pretty much always fails. If he could get it for free from you, then he can almost surely also get it for free from lots of other women. So, why would he spend even one dollar on you, ever? He could as well move on and get it again for free elsewhere. A lot of women follow this strategy, and the result is that they get pumped and dumped for absolutely nothing in return until they get older and hit the wall. At that point, the handsome men want younger women.

But then again, only women from the middle class (and up) can afford to follow that strategy. The other ones can't. They have to reject men who only bring a pretty face to the table. They naturally prefer to look for more (financial) substance.

So, the intergender marketplace works perfectly fine for me. I manage to get exactly what I want. What about you? Does anybody still want you? If yes, why do you sound so frustrated?

I really care what an ugly hairy little man thinks, who is so unattractive he has to constantly boast about how much money he (allegedly) has because he's under the delusion that women give a shit. I can practically smeill your horrible body odour though the screen. Yuk!

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:35 pm I really care what an ugly hairy little man thinks, who is so unattractive he has to constantly boast about how much money he (allegedly) has because he's under the delusion that women give a shit. I can practically smeill your horrible body odour though the screen. Yuk!

No man on earth cares about what you think because you are not an attractive young woman. So, as a male provider, I bring money to the table. As a woman, what exactly do you bring to the table?

You see, there is something like "pretty privilege" and you don't have it. You are out of the game while I am not. You are simply a bad loser.

godelian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 2:13 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 12:35 pm I really care what an ugly hairy little man thinks, who is so unattractive he has to constantly boast about how much money he (allegedly) has because he's under the delusion that women give a shit. I can practically smeill your horrible body odour though the screen. Yuk!

No man on earth cares about what you think because you are not an attractive young woman. So, as a male provider, I bring money to the table. As a woman, what exactly do you bring to the table?

You see, there is something like "pretty privilege" and you don't have it. You are out of the game while I am not. You are simply a bad loser.

Why don't you take your endless stream of woman-hating bullshit and psychotic fantasies and shove them up your arse and take your ugly little hairy arse and micropenis off to some Andrew Tatke incel forum? You won't be missed.

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 7:42 pm Why don't you take your endless stream of woman-hating bullshit and psychotic fantasies and shove them up your arse and take your ugly little hairy arse and micropenis off to some Andrew Tatke incel forum? You won't be missed.

Ha ha. So, now Andrew Tate is an incel? How laughable! Lots of women want Andrew Tate. It is obvious that no man wants you. It is you who are the loser and not him. Seriously, where is your forever man? You don't have one! With your big obnoxious mouth, you obviously can't keep one. That is why you are alone! Go back to your cats. No man wants you here. No man wants you anywhere.

I don't know if he qualifies as an incel. He's gay. But his followers certainly are, and they worship his horrible polished head.
Stop trying to get me to talk about my personal life. It's not working. You can believe what you like, smelly little man

accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:39 am I don't know if he qualifies as an incel. He's gay. But his followers certainly are, and they worship his horrible polished head.
Stop trying to get me to talk about my personal life. It's not working. You can believe what you like, smelly little man

You don't have a personal life. Isn't that obvious? No man on earth can stand your big obnoxious mouth.

Andrew Tate is not gay. He has a long history of sexual dealings with stunning young beauties.

That is why young men look up to him. Young men also want to have sexual dealings with stunning young beauties, which is not easy to pull off, but Andrew Tate manages to do it. Andrew Tate is also full of money. So, he must be doing something right.

It is you the sexually rejected trash and not Andrew Tate.

godelian wrote: ↑Wed Apr 16, 2025 8:11 am It amounts to asking the man to confirm something that he cannot possibly know with certainty.

Of course they can not. But, if they accept it, then that is all that really matters.

godelian wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 1:58 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Thu Apr 17, 2025 12:39 am I don't know if he qualifies as an incel. He's gay. But his followers certainly are, and they worship his horrible polished head.
Stop trying to get me to talk about my personal life. It's not working. You can believe what you like, smelly little man

You don't have a personal life. Isn't that obvious? No man on earth can stand your big obnoxious mouth.

Andrew Tate is not gay. He has a long history of sexual dealings with stunning young beauties.

That is why young men look up to him. Young men also want to have sexual dealings with stunning young beauties, which is not easy to pull off, but Andrew Tate manages to do it. Andrew Tate is also full of money. So, he must be doing something right.

It is you the sexually rejected trash and not Andrew Tate.

Keep telling yourself that, smelly little man who has to pay women to fuck him