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Plato did a dialog called Ion. So, I will apply it.

What is the art or science of the environmental activist?
What one science is over the entire environment?

What is the only power a mind has? What is that power used for?

Is the science of mind and the science of the environmental activist the same or different?

See, if by reviewing Ion, you can get the right answer.

When someone claims to be an environmental activist, what proof do they have to tender to judge the truth of their words?

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Thanks for the reminder! Must put the bins out.

Martin Peter Clarke wrote: ↑Thu Apr 24, 2025 12:57 pm Thanks for the reminder! Must put the bins out.

Grammatical principle of definition, What may be predicated of anything is wholly determined by the definition of that thing. Therefore, the only way to change human behavior is to change the state of literacy.

Put out all the bins you want, it is a grammatical, logical, and biological fact which the simple minded never understand.

Nobody can be illiterate and make a correct judgment except by chance.

Apparently, you have never read the Bible, Plato, or Confucius. Looking at words with your eyes is not reading. Nor do you know a thing about being fit for survival. The mind is potentially the most powerful life support system possible, and is designed to have dominion, when functional, over the whole of the environment.
Duh!
Being an idiot with a mouth is not any sign of intelligence. "The ability to speak, does not make you intelligent." Star Wars, Q.G.

A mind is responsible for the behavior of the body within which it resides, every time you claim a particular behavior is not, you are citing a simple self referential fallacy like any other fool.

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:18 am…When someone claims to be an environmental activist, what proof do they have to tender to judge the truth of their words?

They live in ways that minimize environmental harm.

And I’d also say they love nature - being in it & having lots of plants & animals (at some point). But above all, a true environmentalist will never seek to kill the human body as its own environment. They don’t hypocritically put animals above humans.

Perspective wrote: ↑Fri Apr 25, 2025 4:23 pm

Phil8659 wrote: ↑Sat Apr 12, 2025 5:18 am…When someone claims to be an environmental activist, what proof do they have to tender to judge the truth of their words?

They live in ways that minimize environmental harm.

And I’d also say they love nature - being in it & having lots of plants & animals (at some point). But above all, a true environmentalist will never seek to kill the human body as its own environment. They don’t hypocritically put animals above humans.

So, you actually claim that a person can and do love, even though they do not care to, have never cared to, learn how to do their own work?
Am I to believe that you are speaking the truth when the actual facts deny it?
Is it possible, for an illiterate person to love at all? Or do you mistake emotion, that which it is our responsibility to regulate, to be the same as human will?

Are we designed to do as we please, or to do what we will? Do you even know the difference?
So, do not come back, well, we have a nice fuzzy warm feeling, is that not enough? Fuck no.

For example, freedom is to be the beneficiary of one's own labor. So, if you claim that life has a right to be free, then say that things have rights to what they have not earned, then you find why, there is no freedom in America or anywhere else in the world, because as soon as you claim that anything has a right to what they have not earned, then you have defined a slave master. That is why, the world has been run under the ground with corruption, people cannot think their way out of a fucking paper bag.

As soon as you claim that people can give and take rights, is the moment you have also claimed, you are someone's slave.
So, as I recommended. Study Ion by Plato.
Right and wrong is not the product of mankind. They are not the product of some lame anthropomorphic god. They are the product of doing our own work, Standards of Behavior by which maintains and promotes life over the entire biosphere, including mankind.
Language is Universal and Intelligible, spoken by the whole Universe. Grammar is Particular and Perceptible, developed only to the intelligence level of those attempting to understand and speak in accordance with, as you say, nature, or what Confucius said, in accordance with the Truth of Things.
My bad, I was thinking one thing and typing another. Euthyphro, not Ion, however, one can learn from Ion, but Euthyphro is more specific.
Truth is independent of both Gods and Men.

There is no life form in the entire Universe that has a right to life. By biological fact, each form of life has to work for it.
Life is not a gift, it is a job.
The Bible tells you this. Plato told you this. Confucius told you this. Your own biology tells you the same thing. Yet, you are so smart as to ignore them all. So, is it even possible, that I believe for one millisecond, that you or anyone else I have ever met, is capable of love?
No greater love has any man but that he lays down his entire life for another life, for all life. How can man possibly have dominion over the earth, when he cannot even control himself?
We are born with a never ending lifetime job, and the majority of the human race are simply too stupid to even want to do it. Where do you think that places mankind on the scale of evolution?

I like those people who whine, well, I am so small compared with the Universe, what point is there? Really. The concept of great and small, the very same concept we use to do our job, is really an excuse not to do it. Too stupid to even spot a self-referential fallacy, and they claim to be literate.

Well Fred, we were all waiting for the sub atomic particles to come on stage, and perform the Big Bul... pardon me, Bang, when the actors, started pondering the issue of size. That is when they called the Actor's Union and just walked out of the building. Yes, that is right Fred, we have to contact another agent and see if we can get other actor's to do the play.