Hadiths Insults Allah's Morality
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2025 4:49 am
Hadiths that insults Allah Moral Perfection
Please give a list of Hadiths are are seemingly would be insulting to Allah [perfect morality, omniscient] if it is claim to come directly from Allah, e.g. re Aishah and adult suckling requirement, and others.
The following hadiths are from authentic sources [e.g. Muslim, Bukhari].
ChatGPT said:
Here’s a list of hadiths that, if claimed to be from Allah, would appear to contradict His perfect morality, omniscience, and wisdom:
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1. Adult Breastfeeding (Suckling) Rule
Sahih Muslim 1453a
The Prophet allegedly allowed an adult man to suckle from a woman so he could be considered her foster son and freely enter her home.
Issue: This contradicts both modesty and rationality, as well as Quranic guidelines on breastfeeding (2:233, 4:23), which apply only to infants.
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2. The Sun Prostrates Under Allah’s Throne
Sahih Bukhari 3199, 7424
The Prophet allegedly said the sun sets and prostrates before Allah, awaiting His permission to rise again.
Issue: This contradicts established astronomical knowledge. If this were truly from an all-knowing God, it would not depict a geocentric model of the universe.
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3. Allah Changes His Mind About Moses' Advice
Sahih Bukhari 7517
During the Mi'raj (Ascension), Muhammad was allegedly told by Allah to command 50 daily prayers. Moses advised Muhammad to ask for a reduction, and after multiple negotiations, Allah reduced it to five.
Issue: This implies Allah lacks foreknowledge, which contradicts His omniscience (Quran 6:59). Why would Allah need Moses' advice to realize the burden of 50 prayers?
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4. Muhammad Bewitched and Forgetting Revelations
Sahih Bukhari 3175, 5765
The Prophet allegedly fell under a magic spell that caused him to forget what he was doing, including revelations.
Issue: If true, this questions the preservation of divine revelation. It contradicts Quran 15:9, where Allah guarantees protection of the revelation.
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5. Allah Laughs at People Being Thrown in Hell
Sahih Bukhari 7483
Allah allegedly laughs at two men killing each other, one going to Hell and the other to Paradise.
Issue: This suggests a lack of divine justice and mercy, contradicting Quran 6:12, where Allah declares Himself as the Most Merciful.
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6. Women Are Deficient in Intelligence and Religion
Sahih Bukhari 304, 1052, 1462
Women are allegedly deficient in intellect and religion because they menstruate and their testimony is worth half that of a man.
Issue: If this were from Allah, it would contradict the Quranic principles of justice and fairness (Quran 4:1, 33:35). The Quran never states women are intellectually inferior.
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7. Majority of Hell's Inhabitants Are Women
Sahih Bukhari 29, 1052
The Prophet allegedly saw Hell and found that most of its inhabitants were women because they were ungrateful to their husbands.
Issue: This contradicts divine justice, as eternal punishment for ingratitude towards husbands is not Quranic. Allah judges all deeds fairly (Quran 41:46).
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8. The Black Stone Erases Sins
Sunan Ibn Majah 2944, Tirmidhi 877
The Prophet allegedly said that touching the Black Stone at the Kaaba wipes away sins.
Issue: This promotes idolatrous practices, contradicting the Quran’s strict monotheism (Quran 6:164, 39:3). Forgiveness comes only from Allah, not objects.
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9. Allah Created Disease and Then the Cure
Sahih Bukhari 5678
The Prophet allegedly said that Allah did not send any disease except that He sent its cure.
Issue: If true, this implies Allah intentionally created deadly diseases like cancer, Ebola, etc., contradicting His mercy and justice (Quran 7:156).
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10. The Prophet Allowed Beatings That Leave No Marks
Abu Dawood 2142
The Prophet allegedly said that if a husband beats his wife, he should not hit her in the face and should not leave marks.
Issue: This contradicts the Quranic spirit of kindness and justice (Quran 30:21). It also suggests that beating is permissible as long as it leaves no physical trace, which is morally questionable.
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Conclusion: A Perfect God Would Not Reveal These Hadiths
• If these hadiths were directly from Allah, they would contradict His perfect wisdom, justice, and omniscience.
• The Quran alone provides a coherent, morally sound, and scientifically accurate guide for believers.
• The hadith collections contain errors, contradictions, and anthropomorphic depictions of God, which contradict Quranic monotheism. [End-ChatGpt]
Would you like more examples or a structured argument against their divine authenticity?
Please give a list of Hadiths are are seemingly would be insulting to Allah [perfect morality, omniscient] if it is claim to come directly from Allah, e.g. re Aishah and adult suckling requirement, and others.
The following hadiths are from authentic sources [e.g. Muslim, Bukhari].
ChatGPT said:
Here’s a list of hadiths that, if claimed to be from Allah, would appear to contradict His perfect morality, omniscience, and wisdom:
________________________________________
1. Adult Breastfeeding (Suckling) Rule
Sahih Muslim 1453aThe Prophet allegedly allowed an adult man to suckle from a woman so he could be considered her foster son and freely enter her home.
Issue: This contradicts both modesty and rationality, as well as Quranic guidelines on breastfeeding (2:233, 4:23), which apply only to infants.________________________________________
2. The Sun Prostrates Under Allah’s Throne
Sahih Bukhari 3199, 7424The Prophet allegedly said the sun sets and prostrates before Allah, awaiting His permission to rise again.
Issue: This contradicts established astronomical knowledge. If this were truly from an all-knowing God, it would not depict a geocentric model of the universe.________________________________________
3. Allah Changes His Mind About Moses' Advice
Sahih Bukhari 7517During the Mi'raj (Ascension), Muhammad was allegedly told by Allah to command 50 daily prayers. Moses advised Muhammad to ask for a reduction, and after multiple negotiations, Allah reduced it to five.
Issue: This implies Allah lacks foreknowledge, which contradicts His omniscience (Quran 6:59). Why would Allah need Moses' advice to realize the burden of 50 prayers?________________________________________
4. Muhammad Bewitched and Forgetting Revelations
Sahih Bukhari 3175, 5765The Prophet allegedly fell under a magic spell that caused him to forget what he was doing, including revelations.
Issue: If true, this questions the preservation of divine revelation. It contradicts Quran 15:9, where Allah guarantees protection of the revelation.________________________________________
5. Allah Laughs at People Being Thrown in Hell
Sahih Bukhari 7483Allah allegedly laughs at two men killing each other, one going to Hell and the other to Paradise.
Issue: This suggests a lack of divine justice and mercy, contradicting Quran 6:12, where Allah declares Himself as the Most Merciful.________________________________________
6. Women Are Deficient in Intelligence and Religion
Sahih Bukhari 304, 1052, 1462Women are allegedly deficient in intellect and religion because they menstruate and their testimony is worth half that of a man.
Issue: If this were from Allah, it would contradict the Quranic principles of justice and fairness (Quran 4:1, 33:35). The Quran never states women are intellectually inferior.________________________________________
7. Majority of Hell's Inhabitants Are Women
Sahih Bukhari 29, 1052The Prophet allegedly saw Hell and found that most of its inhabitants were women because they were ungrateful to their husbands.
Issue: This contradicts divine justice, as eternal punishment for ingratitude towards husbands is not Quranic. Allah judges all deeds fairly (Quran 41:46).________________________________________
8. The Black Stone Erases Sins
Sunan Ibn Majah 2944, Tirmidhi 877The Prophet allegedly said that touching the Black Stone at the Kaaba wipes away sins.
Issue: This promotes idolatrous practices, contradicting the Quran’s strict monotheism (Quran 6:164, 39:3). Forgiveness comes only from Allah, not objects.________________________________________
9. Allah Created Disease and Then the Cure
Sahih Bukhari 5678The Prophet allegedly said that Allah did not send any disease except that He sent its cure.
Issue: If true, this implies Allah intentionally created deadly diseases like cancer, Ebola, etc., contradicting His mercy and justice (Quran 7:156).________________________________________
10. The Prophet Allowed Beatings That Leave No Marks
Abu Dawood 2142The Prophet allegedly said that if a husband beats his wife, he should not hit her in the face and should not leave marks.
Issue: This contradicts the Quranic spirit of kindness and justice (Quran 30:21). It also suggests that beating is permissible as long as it leaves no physical trace, which is morally questionable.________________________________________
Conclusion: A Perfect God Would Not Reveal These Hadiths
• If these hadiths were directly from Allah, they would contradict His perfect wisdom, justice, and omniscience.
• The Quran alone provides a coherent, morally sound, and scientifically accurate guide for believers.
• The hadith collections contain errors, contradictions, and anthropomorphic depictions of God, which contradict Quranic monotheism. [End-ChatGpt]
Would you like more examples or a structured argument against their divine authenticity?