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"Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm
by Greatest I am
"Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:26 pm
by Impenitent
practice makes perfect...

arete

-Imp

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:10 pm
by attofishpi
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm "Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
What is SIN according to you?

Does the above include any SIN? Raping and murdering someone for example..?

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:10 am
by Age
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm "Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.”
And, once 'this' is FULLY COMPREHENDED and UNDERSTOOD, then WHY you human beings HAD TO FALL TO 'sin' also becomes FULLY KNOWN, and UNDERSTOOD, AS WELL.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan.
YET it IS, and WAS.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Whether or not one believes in the supernatural,
God is NOT so-called 'supernatural', along with absolutely EVERY thing ELSE.

There is NOT one thing that is above, beyond, apart from, or not of 'Nature', and thus not 'natural', itself.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
Or, in another term, 'sinning' and 'missing the mark' WAS a natural part of reaching, and achieving, something 'greater'. That is; a 'much better world', also known as, a 'better way of living'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short.
you human beings learn BEST BY 'your mistakes', thus WHY you human beings have COMPLETE 'free will', with 'free will' just BEING 'the ability to choose', ONLY.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress.
Again, you people learn MORE, and thus BETTER, and BEST, BY 'your mistakes'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Just to be clear even one learns and KNOWS what the 'MARK' IS, EXACTLY, 'they' can STILL 'make mistakes', which they can LEARN FROM.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea.
Except you people are 'MISSING THE MARK' when you think or BELIEVE that there is some ACTUAL TYPE OF COMPETITION, IN Life.

There is NO REAL COMPETITION, in Life. Although Life is A GAME, there is NO 'competition' in Life, Itself. The Game Of A Life, along with ALL 'games', and as ALL child, instinctively, KNOW is to HAVE FUN and ENJOY THE 'game'. And, the ONLY rules in the Game Of Life is EVERY one is on a level or equal playing field, to ENJOY, have FUN, and to NOT abuse ANY thing.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
When you adult human beings LEARN to become Truly Honest, and thus Truly OPEN, ONCE MORE, then you WILL REALIZE that you cannot NOT LEARN from absolutely EVERY thing, in Life.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth.
But, WHY would you even WANT TO KEEP 'MISSING THE MARK'?

Once you KNOW what 'the MARK' IS, EXACTLY, then you have some ACTUAL 'thing' TO AIM, and REACH, FOR.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
The GREATEST 'leader' OF ALL OF 'you' ARE the YOUNGEST OF ALL OF 'you'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully.
REALLY?

Do you REALLY WANT TO KEEP 'missing the MARK', till your 'death'?
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
It is IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT CHANGE, and thus TO NOT EVOLVE.

Some are just HEADING IN the RIGHT DIRECTION MORE than others are.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
Thank you "greatest i am", this is the first time I have seen anyone, here, being even remotely CLOSE TO the MARK, in relation TO 'SINNING', and 'MISSING THE MARK'.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am
by Walker
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm
*
Excellent sinning can occur but that wouldn’t be a moral application of excellence, and sin has an explicit anti-moral connotation. All humans have sinned but not all humans still or will sin, since there’s always the next unblemished moment. If we consider “excellence,” to be a moral moniker then the path must be the promise of the sinless next step rather than memories of the last step. Go and sin no more and you’re a sinner no more, but a felon is forever until a higher power (or Biden autopen) makes an exception.

The advantage of intelligence is that one need not experience driving a car off a cliff to deduce the effects. Same goes for sinning, however a lot of folks consider themselves immune to the laws of causation, if high speed traffic is any measure.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:19 am
by Walker
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm
Excellent sinning can occur but that wouldn’t be a moral application of excellence, and sin has an explicit anti-moral connotation. All humans have sinned* but not all humans still or will sin, since there’s always the next unblemished moment. If we consider “excellence,” to be a moral moniker then the path must be the promise of the sinless next step rather than memories of the last step. Go and sin no more and you’re a sinner no more, but a felon is forever until a higher power (or Biden autopen) makes an exception.

The advantage of intelligence is that one need not experience driving a car off a cliff to deduce the effects. Same goes for sinning, however a lot of folks consider themselves immune to the laws of causation, if high speed traffic is any measure.
*Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 5:50 am
by Age
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:10 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm "Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.” It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan. Whether or not one believes in the supernatural, the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short. This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress. Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea. Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth. Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully. It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
What is SIN according to you?

Does the above include any SIN? Raping and murdering someone for example..?
LOL Here 'we' have ANOTHER PRIME example of 'SINNING' and 'MISSING THE MARK'.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:00 am
by LuckyR
"Missing the mark" sounds to my ear like a mistake, perhaps an innocent mistake. Sin, in my book requires evil intention. Killing someone because you were lazy about getting your brakes adjusted is a mistake, it's Missing the Mark, and is generally classified as an accident. Killing your neighbor so you can steal his wallet is murder, is a sin, but isn't Missing the Mark, in my lexicon.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:35 am
by Age
LuckyR wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:00 am "Missing the mark" sounds to my ear like a mistake, perhaps an innocent mistake.
And, 'missing the mark' IS A COMPLETELY INNOCENT 'occurrence'. Obviously NO one can know and express some thing, which they have NOT YET been INTRODUCED TO, or LEARNED, it.

The 'sinning', and/or 'missing the mark', in relation to human beings continual evolution happened or occurred after human beings, who KNEW, instinctively or internally, what IS Right, and Wrong, in Life, CHOSE TO DO (what they instinctively) KNEW was Wrong. That is; 'touching' some thing that they KNEW 'not to touch', which is also known as the 'fruit/s' of Life. As it is said, 'temptation' led human beings TO 'sin', and 'miss the mark'
LuckyR wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:00 am Sin, in my book requires evil intention.
Have you heard of any story about a so-called 'devil' FOOLING, TRICKING, and/or DECEIVING people?

you people have been, for thousands upon thousands of years, DECEIVED INTO BELIEVING that the word 'sinning' could be construed as meaning and/or referring to 'doing Wrong' intentionally. Which was what started 'sinning/missing the mark', in the beginning. But, doing what is 'Wrong', intentionally, is what is actually 'bad', or what some might call 'evil', itself.
LuckyR wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:00 am Killing someone because you were lazy about getting your brakes adjusted is a mistake, it's Missing the Mark, and is generally classified as an accident.
'Missing the mark', in the context of 'sinning' is in relation to the BIG and/or OVERALL SCHEME of things, and never about little and/or personal stuff.
LuckyR wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:00 am Killing your neighbor so you can steal his wallet is murder, is a sin, but isn't Missing the Mark, in my lexicon.
That IS ABSOLUTELY GREAT, and even PERFECT, that you SHOWED that 'those views', which you are EXPRESSING, here, are FROM 'your views', ONLY, and are being EXPRESSED IN 'your language', ONLY.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:46 am
by Age
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm
*
Excellent sinning can occur but that wouldn’t be a moral application of excellence, and sin has an explicit anti-moral connotation.
Considering the Fact that in the very days that this is being written you adult human beings have NEVER come to AN AGREEMENT ABOUT 'moral issues', NOR even JUST ABOUT 'morality', itself. you people 'MISSING THE MARK' and thus have been, and/or are ACTUALLY STILL, 'sinning' BY 'missing the mark', in regards to what IS ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY Right, and Wrong, in Life, and thus 'morality', itself, then the word 'SINNING' IS ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE and, literally, SUFFICIENT, here.
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am All humans have sinned but not all humans still or will sin, since there’s always the next unblemished moment.
Children can NOT and thus do NOT DO Wrong. ONLY adult human beings CAN, and DO.

Now, what definition are you USING for the word 'sin', here? It is OBVIOUSLY NOT the 'missing the mark' definition, correct?
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am If we consider “excellence,” to be a moral moniker
But, WHY would ANY one even just consider that so-called 'moral moniker'?

And, 'excellence' in relation to 'what', EXACTLY?
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am then the path must be the promise of the sinless next step rather than memories of the last step. Go and sin no more and you’re a sinner no more, but a felon is forever until a higher power (or Biden autopen) makes an exception.
WHAT? AND, WHY do you inevitably bring 'your OWN personal' 'opposition' IN, here, FOR, EXACTLY?
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am The advantage of intelligence is that one need not experience driving a car off a cliff to deduce the effects. Same goes for sinning, however a lot of folks consider themselves immune to the laws of causation, if high speed traffic is any measure.
AGAIN, how are you USING the 'sinning' word, here, EXACTLY?

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:47 am
by Age
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 2:19 am
Walker wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:55 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm
Excellent sinning can occur but that wouldn’t be a moral application of excellence, and sin has an explicit anti-moral connotation. All humans have sinned* but not all humans still or will sin, since there’s always the next unblemished moment. If we consider “excellence,” to be a moral moniker then the path must be the promise of the sinless next step rather than memories of the last step. Go and sin no more and you’re a sinner no more, but a felon is forever until a higher power (or Biden autopen) makes an exception.

The advantage of intelligence is that one need not experience driving a car off a cliff to deduce the effects. Same goes for sinning, however a lot of folks consider themselves immune to the laws of causation, if high speed traffic is any measure.
*Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
YES, the VERY REASON WHY you human beings, here, in the days when this being written, are VERY SHORT OF the 'glory' and 'goal' OF God IS, literally, BECAUSE you ALL HAVE BEEN 'MISSING THE MARK'.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:38 pm
by Greatest I am
attofishpi wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 6:10 pm
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm "Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been --- snip ---
What is SIN according to you?

Does the above include any SIN? Raping and murdering someone for example..?
I used the following from the Bible in the O.P.. ---- "At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.”

Sin would include anything that comes from losing at competitions.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:52 pm
by Greatest I am
Age wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:10 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm "Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.”
And, once 'this' is FULLY COMPREHENDED and UNDERSTOOD, then WHY you human beings HAD TO FALL TO 'sin' also becomes FULLY KNOWN, and UNDERSTOOD, AS WELL.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan.
YET it IS, and WAS.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Whether or not one believes in the supernatural,
God is NOT so-called 'supernatural', along with absolutely EVERY thing ELSE.

There is NOT one thing that is above, beyond, apart from, or not of 'Nature', and thus not 'natural', itself.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
Or, in another term, 'sinning' and 'missing the mark' WAS a natural part of reaching, and achieving, something 'greater'. That is; a 'much better world', also known as, a 'better way of living'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short.
you human beings learn BEST BY 'your mistakes', thus WHY you human beings have COMPLETE 'free will', with 'free will' just BEING 'the ability to choose', ONLY.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress.
Again, you people learn MORE, and thus BETTER, and BEST, BY 'your mistakes'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Just to be clear even one learns and KNOWS what the 'MARK' IS, EXACTLY, 'they' can STILL 'make mistakes', which they can LEARN FROM.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea.
Except you people are 'MISSING THE MARK' when you think or BELIEVE that there is some ACTUAL TYPE OF COMPETITION, IN Life.

There is NO REAL COMPETITION, in Life. Although Life is A GAME, there is NO 'competition' in Life, Itself. The Game Of A Life, along with ALL 'games', and as ALL child, instinctively, KNOW is to HAVE FUN and ENJOY THE 'game'. And, the ONLY rules in the Game Of Life is EVERY one is on a level or equal playing field, to ENJOY, have FUN, and to NOT abuse ANY thing.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
When you adult human beings LEARN to become Truly Honest, and thus Truly OPEN, ONCE MORE, then you WILL REALIZE that you cannot NOT LEARN from absolutely EVERY thing, in Life.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth.
But, WHY would you even WANT TO KEEP 'MISSING THE MARK'?

Once you KNOW what 'the MARK' IS, EXACTLY, then you have some ACTUAL 'thing' TO AIM, and REACH, FOR.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
The GREATEST 'leader' OF ALL OF 'you' ARE the YOUNGEST OF ALL OF 'you'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully.
REALLY?

Do you REALLY WANT TO KEEP 'missing the MARK', till your 'death'?
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
It is IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT CHANGE, and thus TO NOT EVOLVE.

Some are just HEADING IN the RIGHT DIRECTION MORE than others are.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
Thank you "greatest i am", this is the first time I have seen anyone, here, being even remotely CLOSE TO the MARK, in relation TO 'SINNING', and 'MISSING THE MARK'.
Thanks for an interesting reply and compliment. Appreciated.

"Do you REALLY WANT TO KEEP 'missing the MARK', till your 'death'?

Absolutely.

I wish to have a goal all of my life, as something to live for.

If I am shooting and missing marks, I am alive and hopefully learning not to miss.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 4:49 pm
by Walker
Age wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 6:46 am
Q: Now, what definition are you USING for the word 'sin', here?
A: The definition referenced in Romans 3:23, from The Holy Bible.

Q: But, WHY would ANY one even just consider that so-called 'moral moniker'?
A: Because the thread is in the context of religion, which involves moral application of teachings, whatever they may be.

Q: And, 'excellence' in relation to 'what', EXACTLY?
A: Excellence as referenced by the thread title, whatever that may be.

Q: WHAT? AND, WHY do you inevitably bring 'your OWN personal' 'opposition' IN, here, FOR, EXACTLY?
A: All observations are true and available for independent verification at the cost of a bit personal interest, effort, and sound judgement to inspire research leading to truth, justice, and the American way..

Q: AGAIN, how are you USING the 'sinning' word, here, EXACTLY?
A: Same as excellence, in the context of the thread title.

Re: "Sin: The Path to Excellence"

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 10:44 pm
by Age
Greatest I am wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 3:52 pm
Age wrote: Tue Apr 01, 2025 1:10 am
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm "Sin: The Path to Excellence"
Sin has long been associated with moral failure, but what if we reframe it? I see sin as something essential to human growth—a necessary part of striving for excellence.
At its core, sin simply means “missing the mark.”
And, once 'this' is FULLY COMPREHENDED and UNDERSTOOD, then WHY you human beings HAD TO FALL TO 'sin' also becomes FULLY KNOWN, and UNDERSTOOD, AS WELL.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm It’s not about wickedness but about falling short of an ideal. Christianity and even Gnostic traditions acknowledge this idea in different ways. The concept of felix culpa—the “happy fault”—suggests that sin is necessary for God’s plan.
YET it IS, and WAS.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Whether or not one believes in the supernatural,
God is NOT so-called 'supernatural', along with absolutely EVERY thing ELSE.

There is NOT one thing that is above, beyond, apart from, or not of 'Nature', and thus not 'natural', itself.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm the wisdom of this idea is clear: missing the mark is a natural part of aiming for something greater.
Or, in another term, 'sinning' and 'missing the mark' WAS a natural part of reaching, and achieving, something 'greater'. That is; a 'much better world', also known as, a 'better way of living'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm To evolve, both as individuals and as a species, we must take risks and inevitably fall short.
you human beings learn BEST BY 'your mistakes', thus WHY you human beings have COMPLETE 'free will', with 'free will' just BEING 'the ability to choose', ONLY.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm This process—of setting goals, failing, and trying again—is what drives progress.
Again, you people learn MORE, and thus BETTER, and BEST, BY 'your mistakes'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Every moment of “sin” is evidence that we’re pushing ourselves beyond our comfort zones and striving toward our best possible selves. This is what we do, consciously or unconsciously, at every point in our lives.
Just to be clear even one learns and KNOWS what the 'MARK' IS, EXACTLY, 'they' can STILL 'make mistakes', which they can LEARN FROM.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Even competition, often seen as divisive, is tied to this idea.
Except you people are 'MISSING THE MARK' when you think or BELIEVE that there is some ACTUAL TYPE OF COMPETITION, IN Life.

There is NO REAL COMPETITION, in Life. Although Life is A GAME, there is NO 'competition' in Life, Itself. The Game Of A Life, along with ALL 'games', and as ALL child, instinctively, KNOW is to HAVE FUN and ENJOY THE 'game'. And, the ONLY rules in the Game Of Life is EVERY one is on a level or equal playing field, to ENJOY, have FUN, and to NOT abuse ANY thing.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Competition highlights our shortcomings, creating a contrast between where we are and where we want to be. It creates leaders, innovators, and excellence by encouraging us to improve. Of course, competition produces losers, and those losses can feel like failures or even evoke the idea of "evil." But in truth, every loss is an opportunity—a moment to learn, adapt, and grow stronger.
When you adult human beings LEARN to become Truly Honest, and thus Truly OPEN, ONCE MORE, then you WILL REALIZE that you cannot NOT LEARN from absolutely EVERY thing, in Life.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm This is why I celebrate sin—not as a call to moral failure but as an embrace of imperfection and growth.
But, WHY would you even WANT TO KEEP 'MISSING THE MARK'?

Once you KNOW what 'the MARK' IS, EXACTLY, then you have some ACTUAL 'thing' TO AIM, and REACH, FOR.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm Without sin, without missing the mark, we would have no benchmarks for greatness. There would be no leaders to inspire us, no innovators to challenge us, and no progress to drive humanity forward.
The GREATEST 'leader' OF ALL OF 'you' ARE the YOUNGEST OF ALL OF 'you'.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm I don’t believe in the supernatural, but I see wisdom in the way ancient scribes wove this idea into their teachings. Sin, in its truest sense, is not something to avoid but something to engage with thoughtfully.
REALLY?

Do you REALLY WANT TO KEEP 'missing the MARK', till your 'death'?
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm It is the evidence of our striving, our courage to try, and our commitment to evolve.
It is IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT CHANGE, and thus TO NOT EVOLVE.

Some are just HEADING IN the RIGHT DIRECTION MORE than others are.
Greatest I am wrote: Mon Mar 31, 2025 3:06 pm So, I invite you: aim high. Take your shot. Miss the mark. Become a sinner in the best way possible. In doing so, you’ll not only create a better version of yourself but also contribute to the collective excellence of humanity.
Thank you "greatest i am", this is the first time I have seen anyone, here, being even remotely CLOSE TO the MARK, in relation TO 'SINNING', and 'MISSING THE MARK'.
Thanks for an interesting reply and compliment. Appreciated.

"Do you REALLY WANT TO KEEP 'missing the MARK', till your 'death'?

Absolutely.

I wish to have a goal all of my life, as something to live for.

If I am shooting and missing marks, I am alive and hopefully learning not to miss.
Why are you hoping to learn 'not to miss' when you absolutely 'want to keep missing'?

Can you see any contradiction, here?