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attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:07 am So you didn't "see" a spark of light when the fag was lit? ..if not, nah just a random dream prolly.

Have you ever had lucid dreams?

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:37 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:07 am So you didn't "see" a spark of light when the fag was lit? ..if not, nah just a random dream prolly.

Have you ever had lucid dreams?

No, I don't see when dreaming.

Maia wrote:Yes, I've had dreams where I've realised that I'm dreaming, and they continue for a while, and I'm able to consciously experience them, as it were. But you never really know, I suppose, if that was just part of the dream, anyway, or even, if it makes any sense to make that distinction.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:17 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:37 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:07 am So you didn't "see" a spark of light when the fag was lit? ..if not, nah just a random dream prolly.

Have you ever had lucid dreams?

No, I don't see when dreaming.

..well, it's plausible via the system that can project lucid dreams (via operation below the planck level of atomic reality that make up our synapsis).

Maia wrote:Yes, I've had dreams where I've realised that I'm dreaming, and they continue for a while, and I'm able to consciously experience them, as it were. But you never really know, I suppose, if that was just part of the dream, anyway, or even, if it makes any sense to make that distinction.

I love lucid dreams. I haven't had one for a while.

The moment I real eyes I am within a dream I state "Don't wake me up." (*to GOD\sage system)

Two dreams that really stand out to me I actually met my sage (*some dude that lives in California and occasionally communicates via the aether)

One, we were in a basic hallway of some institution and I went up to the wall and started to attempt to scrape the paint off of the wall, while my sage sat watching at the end of the hallway.

Another I was in a fishing village in England - reminded me of those lovely Cornish villages. I was on the pier and the sage was stood there and he said "She thought of you last night." - this was quite profound to me at the time.
Then I walked into a market within the village and there were all sorts of what appeared to me marine creatures on tables and they were all squishy n weird - the type of stuff that gets washed up on the beach overnight! I looked down at my bare feet and started jumping up and down while still looking down at them and I said "This is so real!!"

Honestly, when I am in a lucid dream I can't distinguish any difference to actual reality...this entity GOD system can project anything. On that note, in ACTUAL awake reality I have seen things "miracles" few would believe - or just say atto is hallucinating, bla bla..

I don't think you consider yourself an atheist via your paganism, spiritual indeed and I've noticed ONLY my friends that have a degree of spiritual belief of some sort appear to have lucid dreams occasionally. None of my atheist friends seem to get them.

I wonder whether there is a statistical marker to that...any atheists reading this ever had a lucid dream?

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:54 pm There are some who think that dreams are a portal into alternative universes. Certain drugs can induce horrible nightmares so I'm not sure how that would fit into the 'theory'. Still, dreams are a mysterious and not very well understood phenomenon.
I frequently dream that I'm still at school. It seems odd that we are often completely oblivious to our actual age when it comes to dreams.

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:30 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:17 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 8:37 am

No, I don't see when dreaming.

..well, it's plausible via the system that can project lucid dreams (via operation below the planck level of atomic reality that make up our synapsis).

Maia wrote:Yes, I've had dreams where I've realised that I'm dreaming, and they continue for a while, and I'm able to consciously experience them, as it were. But you never really know, I suppose, if that was just part of the dream, anyway, or even, if it makes any sense to make that distinction.

I love lucid dreams. I haven't had one for a while.

The moment I real eyes I am within a dream I state "Don't wake me up." (*to GOD\sage system)

Two dreams that really stand out to me I actually met my sage (*some dude that lives in California and occasionally communicates via the aether)

One, we were in a basic hallway of some institution and I went up to the wall and started to attempt to scrape the paint off of the wall, while my sage sat watching at the end of the hallway.

Another I was in a fishing village in England - reminded me of those lovely Cornish villages. I was on the pier and the sage was stood there and he said "She thought of you last night." - this was quite profound to me at the time.
Then I walked into a market within the village and there were all sorts of what appeared to me marine creatures on tables and they were all squishy n weird - the type of stuff that gets washed up on the beach overnight! I looked down at my bare feet and started jumping up and down while still looking down at them and I said "This is so real!!"

Honestly, when I am in a lucid dream I can't distinguish any difference to actual reality...this entity GOD system can project anything. On that note, in ACTUAL awake reality I have seen things "miracles" few would believe - or just say atto is hallucinating, bla bla..

I don't think you consider yourself an atheist via your paganism, spiritual indeed and I've noticed ONLY my friends that have a degree of spiritual belief of some sort appear to have lucid dreams occasionally. None of my atheist friends seem to get them.

I wonder whether there is a statistical marker to that...any atheists reading this ever had a lucid dream?

Most of what I would call spiritual or paranormal experiences I've had while awake. One that always sticks in my mind was when I was camping, on my own, at the Malvern Hills. It was late at night and I was sitting outside my tent. It definitely wasn't a dream or anything as I hadn't even been to bed yet, and dreams feel different, anyway. The first thing was that I heard some ethereal music, a flute, in fact, on the wind, just at the very edge of being able to hear it. Then I smelt incense, and then, all of a sudden, a girl started talking to me. She sounded about my age, and said she had been running over the hills. But she had no physical presence, just a disembodied voice, and I definitely always know if someone is nearby. Funnily enough, though, at the time, it didn't bother me, and we spoke for hours, though afterwards, I could hardly remember what we talked about. And then she just stopped talking, and wasn't there.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 12:25 am

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 1:30 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 12:17 pm

..well, it's plausible via the system that can project lucid dreams (via operation below the planck level of atomic reality that make up our synapsis).




I love lucid dreams. I haven't had one for a while.

The moment I real eyes I am within a dream I state "Don't wake me up." (*to GOD\sage system)

Two dreams that really stand out to me I actually met my sage (*some dude that lives in California and occasionally communicates via the aether)

One, we were in a basic hallway of some institution and I went up to the wall and started to attempt to scrape the paint off of the wall, while my sage sat watching at the end of the hallway.

Another I was in a fishing village in England - reminded me of those lovely Cornish villages. I was on the pier and the sage was stood there and he said "She thought of you last night." - this was quite profound to me at the time.
Then I walked into a market within the village and there were all sorts of what appeared to me marine creatures on tables and they were all squishy n weird - the type of stuff that gets washed up on the beach overnight! I looked down at my bare feet and started jumping up and down while still looking down at them and I said "This is so real!!"

Honestly, when I am in a lucid dream I can't distinguish any difference to actual reality...this entity GOD system can project anything. On that note, in ACTUAL awake reality I have seen things "miracles" few would believe - or just say atto is hallucinating, bla bla..

I don't think you consider yourself an atheist via your paganism, spiritual indeed and I've noticed ONLY my friends that have a degree of spiritual belief of some sort appear to have lucid dreams occasionally. None of my atheist friends seem to get them.

I wonder whether there is a statistical marker to that...any atheists reading this ever had a lucid dream?

Most of what I would call spiritual or paranormal experiences I've had while awake. One that always sticks in my mind was when I was camping, on my own, at the Malvern Hills. It was late at night and I was sitting outside my tent. It definitely wasn't a dream or anything as I hadn't even been to bed yet, and dreams feel different, anyway. The first thing was that I heard some ethereal music, a flute, in fact, on the wind, just at the very edge of being able to hear it. Then I smelt incense, and then, all of a sudden, a girl started talking to me. She sounded about my age, and said she had been running over the hills. But she had no physical presence, just a disembodied voice, and I definitely always know if someone is nearby. Funnily enough, though, at the time, it didn't bother me, and we spoke for hours, though afterwards, I could hardly remember what we talked about. And then she just stopped talking, and wasn't there.

Awful that you cannot remember the chat you had!

Sometimes I wonder how your aid software must read what I am writing - such as real eyes for realise (*real and eyes) - thus, a lot of what I state I think must be missed for you..anyway, I'll try this account.

Way back in 1997 when "GOD" first started screwing with my reality. It had me interrogating ALL of reality, including the logic within words, their phonetics etc..

I wrote down the last sentence of the "Lord's Prayer" - Our Father...etc, the last line "Deliver us from evil, amen"
I wrote that down in reverse:
Live morf su reviled.
Which I then wrote down again as "Live morph soon revealed"
*morph as in something changing form.
The next day on the way to the second of two part-time jobs, I was running late and walking through a carpark when a young aboriginal lad was walking towards me wearing a hoodie. When he was to my left, I glanced over my shoulder at him and to my amazement, he was no longer wearing a hoodie, was taller and middle aged. I then looked over my left shoulder again, puzzled and now he was a short grey haired old man walking away with a walking cane! (thus, I saw the live morph!)
Of course, this blew me away. I walked around the corner and there was a man sat on a bench grinning at me and rubbing his nose, as in "he knows" Indeed, this was the general projection from reality around the weeks that GOD introduced some of its power over my reality, that complete strangers as I walked along the streets would call out (often while laughing) HE KNOWS.

Do I think an actual body morphed from a boy to an old man, nope. My analysis from many of my experiences has me believing that all our sensory input can be overridden, such that we can witness things that are not actually happening.
Truly, it's like our BRAINs are embedded within the Matrix or some computer game system where sometimes things are real, as in ACTUAL humans, real players, and other times (*in an instant) NPCs - hard to believe I know.

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:09 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:54 pm There are some who think that dreams are a portal into alternative universes. Certain drugs can induce horrible nightmares so I'm not sure how that would fit into the 'theory'. Still, dreams are a mysterious and not very well understood phenomenon.
I frequently dream that I'm still at school. It seems odd that we are often completely oblivious to our actual age when it comes to dreams.

School dreams are definitely a major "genre" of dreams for me too. They always have a particular emotional signature, and there are sub-categories. Another major genre is when I'm trying to find something, and this can either be a person, a place, or a thing. Usually, I don't find it, though occasionally, I do. And a third major genre is climbing or crawling through enclosed, oddly shaped spaces, such as tunnels. I haven't had one of those for quite a while.

I don't hold with any alternative universe-type theory, but it's difficult to avoid the feeling that dreams, or at least some of them, mean something, whatever that might be.

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:40 am

Maia wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 7:09 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Mar 10, 2025 6:54 pm There are some who think that dreams are a portal into alternative universes. Certain drugs can induce horrible nightmares so I'm not sure how that would fit into the 'theory'. Still, dreams are a mysterious and not very well understood phenomenon.
I frequently dream that I'm still at school. It seems odd that we are often completely oblivious to our actual age when it comes to dreams.

School dreams are definitely a major "genre" of dreams for me too. They always have a particular emotional signature, and there are sub-categories. Another major genre is when I'm trying to find something, and this can either be a person, a place, or a thing. Usually, I don't find it, though occasionally, I do. And a third major genre is climbing or crawling through enclosed, oddly shaped spaces, such as tunnels. I haven't had one of those for quite a while.

I don't hold with any alternative universe-type theory, but it's difficult to avoid the feeling that dreams, or at least some of them, mean something, whatever that might be.

My school dreams are nearly always about not being able to get somewhere. There are always huge obstacles-- like being on the wrong bus, or finding I'm hours, or even days, late for an exam.