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Maia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:50 am Regular readers of my posts, both here and at ILP, will know that I've expressed support for Reform UK, and Nigel Farage. I voted for them at the general election last July, for example, and even, very briefly, considered joining them. I regard myself as a conservative, with a small c, though very much in the old "one nation" tradition, which no longer seems to exist, but in general, I'm not really very political, most of the time. There was much about Farage himself that I liked, but there were always a few nagging little doubts. I've always had far more time for another Reform MP, Rupert Lowe, who I believe I've mentioned before. The other day, apparently, he expressed some very mild and constructive criticism of Farage, and yesterday, Farage stabbed him in the back, calling in the police on him for alleged sexual misconduct and suspending him from the party, basically ending his career. But also, at the same time, destroying Reform UK, I think. Whatever the case, I can no longer support Farage or his party, and so I'm essentially politically homeless, since I would trust the Tories about as far as I could throw them. Oh well.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:14 am

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:50 am Regular readers of my posts, both here and at ILP, will know that I've expressed support for Reform UK, and Nigel Farage. I voted for them at the general election last July, for example, and even, very briefly, considered joining them. I regard myself as a conservative, with a small c, though very much in the old "one nation" tradition, which no longer seems to exist, but in general, I'm not really very political, most of the time. There was much about Farage himself that I liked, but there were always a few nagging little doubts. I've always had far more time for another Reform MP, Rupert Lowe, who I believe I've mentioned before. The other day, apparently, he expressed some very mild and constructive criticism of Farage, and yesterday, Farage stabbed him in the back, calling in the police on him for alleged sexual misconduct and suspending him from the party, basically ending his career. But also, at the same time, destroying Reform UK, I think. Whatever the case, I can no longer support Farage or his party, and so I'm essentially politically homeless, since I would trust the Tories about as far as I could throw them. Oh well.

..but how many other things have you had it with?

I'm pretty certain Farage is one of the least of them. As a supporter of Reform UK myself, I'd recommend letting time and better reporting take place.

Remember, MSM is constantly attempting to distort the truth to alternative political thoughts.

I admit no investigation thus far on my part, but will permit some time.

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:39 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:14 am

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 7:50 am Regular readers of my posts, both here and at ILP, will know that I've expressed support for Reform UK, and Nigel Farage. I voted for them at the general election last July, for example, and even, very briefly, considered joining them. I regard myself as a conservative, with a small c, though very much in the old "one nation" tradition, which no longer seems to exist, but in general, I'm not really very political, most of the time. There was much about Farage himself that I liked, but there were always a few nagging little doubts. I've always had far more time for another Reform MP, Rupert Lowe, who I believe I've mentioned before. The other day, apparently, he expressed some very mild and constructive criticism of Farage, and yesterday, Farage stabbed him in the back, calling in the police on him for alleged sexual misconduct and suspending him from the party, basically ending his career. But also, at the same time, destroying Reform UK, I think. Whatever the case, I can no longer support Farage or his party, and so I'm essentially politically homeless, since I would trust the Tories about as far as I could throw them. Oh well.

..but how many other things have you had it with?

I'm pretty certain Farage is one of the least of them. As a supporter of Reform UK myself, I'd recommend letting time and better reporting take place.

Remember, MSM is constantly attempting to distort the truth to alternative political thoughts.

I admit no investigation thus far on my part, but will permit some time.

It's difficult, and in many ways, they're probably still the best option out of a very bad bunch, by a long way. One thing I can't abide, however, is betrayal. If he acts like this to those closest to him, what sort of prime minister would he make? I'm really not sure what to think at the moment.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:58 am

Maia wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:39 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Mar 08, 2025 8:14 am

..but how many other things have you had it with?

I'm pretty certain Farage is one of the least of them. As a supporter of Reform UK myself, I'd recommend letting time and better reporting take place.

Remember, MSM is constantly attempting to distort the truth to alternative political thoughts.

I admit no investigation thus far on my part, but will permit some time.

It's difficult, and in many ways, they're probably still the best option out of a very bad bunch, by a long way. One thing I can't abide, however, is betrayal. If he acts like this to those closest to him, what sort of prime minister would he make? I'm really not sure what to think at the moment.

Yes, I'm starting to see your point now. What's been done to Rupert Lowe and suggestions of dementia and belligerence, absolutely disgusting. Farage is not worthy to lead Reform.

I do enjoy The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters to keep me informed on UK and broader politics. I watched these two videos earlier today:

The Podcast of the Lotus Eaters - Farage's history of betrayal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkuNvtMTLp4&t=1s


Lotuseaters Dot Com - Karl Benjamin Interview with Ben Habib
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2fght8gLW0

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:04 am The more I hear about this, the more disgusted I am. Farage has lost my vote, for sure.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:15 am

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:04 am The more I hear about this, the more disgusted I am. Farage has lost my vote, for sure.

He was always talking about how his use of the new tech - social media - to get his message out and avoid the MSM - to which, he and reform clearly did a good job. But this new form of media is now backfiring on him, he's being roasted by pretty much every Reform supporting channel on the net!

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:24 am bummer. Good thing is there's 4 years to re...form somehow..

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:27 pm What a surprise, yet another right wing populist party staffed by chancers is tearing itself apart. How to see it coming when each of them is on their 9th political party after destroying the previous ones with their backbiting and greed?

Never mind, they'll form a new party next week and it will be a slightly different collection of skulduggerous gammons then, so that will surely make a difference.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:27 pm What a surprise, yet another right wing populist party staffed by chancers is tearing itself apart. How to see it coming when each of them is on their 9th political party after destroying the previous ones with their backbiting and greed?

Never mind, they'll form a new party next week and it will be a slightly different collection of skulduggerous gammons then, so that will surely make a difference.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:28 am Farage in a Mirage...

-Imp