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I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 am I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

How would you know if you are or not?

Ken doesn't believe he's human so he won't be able to tick the 'are you human' box in all good conscience. YAY! Does that mean we are free of him forever?

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:42 am

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 am I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

How would you know if you are or not?

Can you suggest any tests I could run on myself?

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:17 am Can you suggest any tests I could run on myself?

You could flip a coin and go with whatever it says. It's way easier on the nerves than eternal navelgazing.

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:17 am

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:42 am

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 am I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

How would you know if you are or not?

Can you suggest any tests I could run on myself?

Hmmm... I suppose the best test would be your ability to procreate with another being that has already been proven to be a human. But then you'd have to have proven they're a human first too, and how do you do that? Well, they'd have to be able to procreate with a human themselves. There has to be at least one being on the planet who we recognize as a human without the need to procreate -- the archetypal human -- and then all other humans are defined relative to that thing.

So we have to start by choosing an archetypal human. Who do you nominate to be the archetypal human being?

Elon Musk

-Imp

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 am I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

If you check the box you're either a truthful human or a lying AI.

Maia needs to take her eyes off that Elon guy and either put them in their portable prosthetic eye and accessories carrying case or back in her head where they belong. That guy is nothing but trouble. Now, he and Don are crashing the crypto market with all their shenanigans, and I'm losing my ass because of it.

Shame about your pet donkey. Was the upkeep too much for your budget?

It's like getting into Fort Knox now.

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:46 am Ken doesn't believe he's human so he won't be able to tick the 'are you human' box in all good conscience.

"accelafine" does NOT believe that it is "vegetariantaxidermy".

LOL In fact, 'it' BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that 'it' was NEVER "vegetariantaxidermy".

'it' ALSO CONTINUES TO WHINGE and COMPLAIN if 'i' just RESPOND TO the words that it WRITES, even when it KEEPS ON WRITING ABOUT 'me'.

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:46 am YAY! Does that mean we are free of him forever?

If 'you' REALLY DO WANT TO BE FREE of 'another', then STOP talking ABOUT 'them'.

The MORE 'you' talk ABOUT 'another', the MORE 'they' ARE, literally, WITHIN 'you'.

By the way, I do NOT have to 'tick' ANY box, here.

That just gets DONE, FOR 'me'. And, I means this LITERALLY.

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 10:17 am

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:42 am

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 am I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

How would you know if you are or not?

Can you suggest any tests I could run on myself?

FIRST thing TO DO is TO BECOME, and REMAIN, FULLY OPEN. That is HAVE NO PRECONCEIVED IDEAS, PRESUMPTIONS, NOR BELIEFS.

SECOND, just find a definition of the words, which are compatible and work IN with 'each other'.

THEN, if you are SEEKING OUT an ACTUAL TEST TO FIND OUT and SEE IF 'I' am 'human', then 'you' WILL just HAVE TO BE MORE SPECIFIC in what 'you' ARE ASKING FOR, and WANTING, here. Which just involves be MORE SPECIFIC in what 'it' is, EXACTLY, that 'you' are WANTING TO FIND OUT, and KNOW, here.

So, ONCE 'you' can PRESENT the QUESTION, in A VERY SPECIFIC WAY, ALREADY KNOWING what 'the words', in the QUESTION, ACTUALLY IRREFUTABLY MEAN, EXACTLY, THEN 'you' WILL ALREADY HAVE 'your ANSWER', anyway.

Also, and by the way, if 'you' have ALREADY OBTAINED the DEFINITIONS of 'the words', which FIT IN PERFECTLY TOGETHER WITH 'each other', and thus EVERY one could be IN AGREEMENT, and ACCEPTANCE, then 'you' have ALREADY ARRIVED AT, and FOUND and UNCOVERED, what the ACTUAL IRREFUTABLE ANSWER, and Truth, IS, ANYWAY.

So, if you would like to PROVIDE the ACTUAL DEFINITIONS, for 'the words', which 'you' are, purportedly, SEEKING A TEST FOR, THEN 'I' CAN and WILL PROVIDE 'you' WITH the TEST, which WILL WORK FULLY and COMPREHENSIVELY, FOR 'you'.

However, if 'you' have ALREADY ARRIVED AT 'the DEFINITIONS', which EVERY one could AGREE WITH, and ACCEPT, anyway, then 'you' have ALREADY DONE 'the TEST', and FOUND 'the ANSWER', which 'you' WERE, previously, SEEKING, here.

Walker wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 1:11 pm

Maia wrote: ↑Tue Feb 25, 2025 9:26 am I honestly thought so, but the forum keeps asking me, and then making me sign in again.

If you check the box you're either a truthful human or a lying AI.

Do 'you', human beings, REALLY HAVE TO so-call 'check' the box, "yourselves"?

The 'checking of' the box just gets done, automatically, FOR 'me'.

I went to "Oscar Nominated Short Live Action Films" last night. One of the films was about a woman who was asked the same question by her computer. The computer wouldn't believe she was human, and wouldn't let her log in. Then she talked to her boyfriend, who confessed that he had bought her, and she was, in fact, a computer. She got quite upset about it.

Unfortunately, it was the worst of the five Oscar Nominated films. The others were: a film in which a train in the Balkans was stopped by heavily armed gangsters looking to ethnically cleanse the land of Muslims. An ex-army officer stands up to them and saves the one Muslim in his compartment. Two Delhi street girls try to navigate their orphaned life in an Indian film. The one American film is about ICE nabbing an immigrant when he shows up for his green card interview (with his wife and daughter). The final one (which gets my vote) is about game rangers in South Africa trying to protect rhinos from poachers. The same art theater in my town is showing Oscar nominated short documentaries and animated films. I may try those next.