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The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 am
by Fairy
Some philosophers have argued that it is impossible for nothing to exist.
I argue that nothing does exist, but only as an illusory empty concept. In fact any thing, or even some thing that is known to exist can only exist as an illusory empty concept. A concept has no reality in and of itself, concepts are illusory finite things.
“Nothing” is relative to the concept of “something,” meaning it is defined as the complete absence of anything, or as the complete absence of some thing, which is contradictory by its very nature of conceptual understanding. Things, essentially, only have meaning in comparison to the presence of other things, in other words, the presence of other conceptual illusions.
That tells us that for something to exist, this something can only be known to exist by means of comparison to something else which is nothing. This must mean that both nothing and something exist only within the framework of finite knowledge, which is illusory.
Some thing, or No thing, are still things, which are finite.
This means that only finite knowledge is known, and never infinite knowledge.
If existence is infinite, then existence is fundamentally unknown, unnameable, silent, indifferent.and most importantly UNTOUCHABLE
Finite knowledge on the other hand must by comparison be a false secondary overlay upon infinite existence, as finite knowledge can only refer to itself as being finite, never infinite, so finite knowledge is simply a concoction of illusory empty words, or concepts and have no actual existence within infinity, except as illusory.
So the illusion that is finite things, means existence is infinity itself, infinity exists, infinitely for eternity.
Infinity is another word for nothing, no thing, not a thing, never a finite thing. Only an infinite infinity exists, which is NOT A finite THING.
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:25 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 am
Some philosophers have argued that it is impossible for nothing to exist.
I argue that nothing does exist, but only as an illusory empty concept. In fact any thing, or even some thing that is known to exist can only exist as an illusory empty concept. A concept has no reality in and of itself, concepts are illusory finite things.
“Nothing” is relative to the concept of “something,” meaning it is defined as the complete absence of anything, or as the complete absence of some thing, which is contradictory by its very nature of conceptual understanding. Things, essentially, only have meaning in comparison to the presence of other things, in other words, the presence of other conceptual illusions.
That tells us that for something to exist, this something can only be known to exist by means of comparison to something else which is nothing. This must mean that both nothing and something exist only within the framework of finite knowledge, which is illusory.
Some thing, or No thing, are still things, which are finite.
This means that only finite knowledge is known, and never infinite knowledge.
If existence is infinite, then existence is fundamentally unknown, unnameable, silent, indifferent.and most importantly UNTOUCHABLE
Finite knowledge on the other hand must by comparison be a false secondary overlay upon infinite existence, as finite knowledge can only refer to itself as being finite, never infinite, so finite knowledge is simply a concoction of illusory empty words, or concepts and have no actual existence within infinity, except as illusory.
So the illusion that is finite things, means existence is infinity itself, infinity exists, infinitely for eternity.
Infinity is another word for nothing, no thing, not a thing, never a finite thing. Only an infinite infinity exists, which is NOT A finite THING.
Relative nothingness is how all things occur, it is not a paradox.
Absolute nothing is a paradoxical statement that means nothing and points to the short comings of language.
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:15 am
by Impenitent
the nothing within an empty one liter bottle is half as the nothing within an empty two liter bottle
-Imp
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 8:53 am
by Wizard22
I know it's difficult to imagine, but "Negative Energy" does not exist. To Negate, is to Destroy or Annihilate. If you believe in the Conservation of Energy, then Destroying Energy is impossible. You can only Transform energy, into other forms. A nuclear bomb turns matter to ash, but it does not Negate matter.
So attempting to conceptualize 'Negative Energies' is very difficult and counter-intuitive, "Dark Matter". It appears as though there are 'empty' spaces in Existence, when in fact, and according to Physics, there's actually Not.
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 10:02 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 8:25 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 05, 2025 10:54 am
Some philosophers have argued that it is impossible for nothing to exist.
I argue that nothing does exist, but only as an illusory empty concept. In fact any thing, or even some thing that is known to exist can only exist as an illusory empty concept. A concept has no reality in and of itself, concepts are illusory finite things.
“Nothing” is relative to the concept of “something,” meaning it is defined as the complete absence of anything, or as the complete absence of some thing, which is contradictory by its very nature of conceptual understanding. Things, essentially, only have meaning in comparison to the presence of other things, in other words, the presence of other conceptual illusions.
That tells us that for something to exist, this something can only be known to exist by means of comparison to something else which is nothing. This must mean that both nothing and something exist only within the framework of finite knowledge, which is illusory.
Some thing, or No thing, are still things, which are finite.
This means that only finite knowledge is known, and never infinite knowledge.
If existence is infinite, then existence is fundamentally unknown, unnameable, silent, indifferent.and most importantly UNTOUCHABLE
Finite knowledge on the other hand must by comparison be a false secondary overlay upon infinite existence, as finite knowledge can only refer to itself as being finite, never infinite, so finite knowledge is simply a concoction of illusory empty words, or concepts and have no actual existence within infinity, except as illusory.
So the illusion that is finite things, means existence is infinity itself, infinity exists, infinitely for eternity.
Infinity is another word for nothing, no thing, not a thing, never a finite thing. Only an infinite infinity exists, which is NOT A finite THING.
Relative nothingness is how all things occur, it is not a paradox.
Absolute nothing is a paradoxical statement that means nothing and points to the short comings of language.
I agree with you Eod.
It is in relationship between language, perception, and the ineffable. You're ( not you personally) but generally speaking. You’re pointing to the inherent emptiness of words, sensations, and visions because they are all predicates—attributes, qualities, or descriptions—that can never truly reach or embody the (subject), the underlying "something" that is presumed to exist but remains forever elusive.
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:01 pm
by Fairy
The bootstrap paradox is a theoretical paradox of time travel that occurs when an object or piece of information sent back in time becomes trapped within an infinite cause-effect loop in which the item no longer has a discernible point of origin and is said to be “Uncaused” or “Self-Created”
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:46 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:01 pm
The bootstrap paradox is a theoretical paradox of time travel that occurs when an object or piece of information sent back in time becomes trapped within an infinite cause-effect loop in which the item no longer has a discernible point of origin and is said to be “Uncaused” or “Self-Created”
The self created loop of everything spontaneously occurs thus comes from nothing.
Re: The Theory of Nothing. (TON)
Posted: Fri Feb 07, 2025 10:06 am
by Fairy
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 6:46 pm
Fairy wrote: ↑Thu Feb 06, 2025 12:01 pm
The bootstrap paradox is a theoretical paradox of time travel that occurs when an object or piece of information sent back in time becomes trapped within an infinite cause-effect loop in which the item no longer has a discernible point of origin and is said to be “Uncaused” or “Self-Created”
The self created loop of everything spontaneously occurs thus comes from nothing.
I concur
