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Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
by Eodnhoj7
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:02 am
by Age
What even is so-called 'pure absence'?
And, 'Reality' IS 'Reality', and NOT so-called 'pure absence'.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Mon Feb 03, 2025 6:24 pm
by LuckyR
A pretty good example of the fact that reality isn't made up of words.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:40 am
by godelian
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
absenceOf(x) is a predicate while "absence" (value 0) and "thing" (value 1) are values in the domain, which is a finite Galois field of order 2.
The absenceOf predicate can be implemented with the x+1 expression:
absenceOf(x) = (x+1) mod 2
Example calculations:
absenceOf(absence) = absenceOf(0) = (0+1) mod 2= 1 = thing
absenceOf(thing) = absenceOf(1) = (1+1) mod 2= 0 = absence
So, in general, the relationship between "absence", i.e. "nothing", and "thing", i.e. "something", can be modeled by arithmetic in a Galois field of order two.
This functions in an abstract, Platonic reality that may or may not be structurally similar to some aspects of physical reality.
Arithmetic in the Galois field of order two is also the canonical environment for Aristotelian/Boolean two-valued logic. It is a special field, if only, because it is the smallest possible field.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 2:50 am
by Eodnhoj7
godelian wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 1:40 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
absenceOf(x) is a predicate while "absence" (value 0) and "thing" (value 1) are values in the domain, which is a finite Galois field of order 2.
The absenceOf predicate can be implemented with the x+1 expression:
absenceOf(x) = (x+1) mod 2
Example calculations:
absenceOf(absence) = absenceOf(0) = (0+1) mod 2= 1 = thing
absenceOf(thing) = absenceOf(1) = (1+1) mod 2= 0 = absence
So, in general, the relationship between "absence", i.e. "nothing", and "thing", i.e. "something", can be modeled by arithmetic in a Galois field of order two.
This functions in an abstract, Platonic reality that may or may not be structurally similar to some aspects of physical reality.
Arithmetic in the Galois field of order two is also the canonical environment for Aristotelian/Boolean two-valued logic. It is a special field, if only, because it is the smallest possible field.
Cool.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:15 am
by Impenitent
absence has nothing on nonsense
-Imp
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:57 am
by Younfelf
If we consider that the absence of an absence is a thing (which implies presence) and the absence of a thing is indeed an absence, then reality can be seen as a complex interplay between presence and absence. Reality, in this sense, is not purely absence but rather a dynamic balance between what is present and what is absent.
In essence, reality is a tapestry woven from both what exists and what does not. Each component, presence or absence, contributes to the overall structure and understanding of reality.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 4:17 am
by Eodnhoj7
Impenitent wrote: ↑Tue Feb 04, 2025 4:15 am
absence has nothing on nonsense
-Imp
Sense is the absence of nonsense.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Feb 18, 2025 7:02 pm
by Impenitent
nonsense persists
sense is illusion
-Imp
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:34 am
by popeye1945
It should be acknowledged which reality you are speaking of, apparent reality or what is called ultimate reality. Apparent reality is a biological readout of the surrounding energies, ultimate reality is a place of no things or unmanifested energy. Pure absence makes no sense whatsoever.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:39 pm
by Impenitent
apparent reality is a child
-Imp
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:19 pm
by popeye1945
Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:39 pm
apparent reality is a child
-Imp
Depends upon what color it is!
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2025 5:45 pm
by Impenitent
the parent or the child?
-Imp
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:40 pm
by Daniel67
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
Haha dude, that’s some next-level brain twist!
So basically, if everything is just the absence of absence, then yeah, reality is just not nothing — which makes it... something? So technically we’re all just chilling in a big pile of “not absence” and calling it reality. Kinda wild when you think about it like that.
Re: Reality is Pure Absence
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2025 8:33 am
by Eodnhoj7
Daniel67 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 18, 2025 12:40 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 8:37 am
If an absence of an absence is a thing and the absence of a thing is an absence is reality purely absence considering all things are an absence of absence?
Haha dude, that’s some next-level brain twist!
So basically, if everything is just the absence of absence, then yeah, reality is just not nothing — which makes it... something? So technically we’re all just chilling in a big pile of “not absence” and calling it reality. Kinda wild when you think about it like that.
It's a paradox. The absence of absence is a thing yet all it is is an absence. Welcome to the rabbit hole...
So basically, if everything is just the absence of absence, then yeah, reality is just not nothing — which makes it... something? So technically we’re all just chilling in a big pile of “not absence” and calling it reality. Kinda wild when you think about it like that.