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Contradictions in the Quran
https://wikiislam.net/wiki/Contradictions_in_the_Quran

1 Parallel narrative passages
1.1 The forgiveness of Adam
1.2 Timing of Allah's instructions to Noah
1.3 Abraham and the idols
1.4 Abraham and the Angels
1.5 Lot and the angels
1.6 Response from Lot's people
1.7 Moses meets Allah at the fire
1.8 Moses expresses his fears and asks Allah about Aaron
1.9 How should Moses describe Allah to Pharaoh?
1.10 Pharaoh and his Chiefs
1.11 Who believed in Moses?
1.12 Were Pharaoh's army covered by or thrown into the sea?
1.13 Moses berates Aaron about the golden calf
1.14 Did Moses's speech impediment get fixed?
1.15 The destruction of Thamud
1.16 The destruction of Aad
1.17 Was Jonah cast onto the shore?
2 Allah
2.1 Where is Allah?
2.2 Can Allah be seen?
2.3 Could Allah have a child?
2.4 Is Allah kind and merciful?
2.5 Does Allah forgive worshipping other gods/shirk?
2.6 Can anyone change the word of Allah?
3 Angels and demons
3.1 How many angels helped Muhammad at Badr?
3.2 Who could Allah send as messengers (rasulan)?
3.3 Was Iblīs an angel or a jinn?
4 Creation
4.1 Which was created first; the Heaven or Earth?
4.2 How many days did it take Allah to create heaven and earth?
4.3 How long does it take Allah to create?
5 Day of Judgement (Qiyamah)
5.1 Will disbelievers speak on Qiyamah?
5.2 Will the disbelievers be blind on the day of resurrection?
5.3 How long will the unbelievers think they remained on Earth?
5.4 How many blowings of the trumpet on Qiyamah
6 Evil
6.1 Does evil come from Allah?
7 Heaven and Hell
7.1 Is intercession possible on the last day?
7.2 Will non-Muslims go to hell forever?
7.3 What will be the food in hell?
8 Mankind
8.1 Could someone bear another's burden?
8.2 Who takes people's souls?
9 Muslims
9.1 Who was the first Muslim (submitter)?
9.2 How strong is a believer?
9.3 Can you eat non-halal meat?
9.4 How bad is drinking wine?
9.5 How many sacred months are there?
10 Non-Muslims
10.1 Can people be compelled to follow Islam?
10.2 Will Allah reward the good deeds of everyone?
10.3 Who sends disbelievers astray?
10.4 How should disbelievers be treated?
10.5 Are Jews God's chosen people?
11 People of the Book
11.1 How are Christians towards the believers?
12 Sex
12.1 Is incest okay?
12.2 Can multiple wives be dealt with justly?
13 Qur'an
13.1 Who brought revelation to Muhammad?
13.2 Is the Quran clear?
14 Quran Variants
15 Miscellaneous
15.1 How long does it take to wean?
15.2 The moon was split
15.3 What are the shares in an inheritance?

AI Wrote:
1. Scientific Inaccuracy: The Origin of Life
Claim: The Quran states that all living things are created from water (Quran 21:30). While this is partially true (as organisms require water), modern biology tells us that life originated from complex biochemical processes that do not simply equate to the existence of water.
Analysis: The claim lacks nuance and oversimplifies the complex origins of life, making it vulnerable to scientific critique.

2. Historical Inaccuracy: The Body of Pharaoh
Claim: The Quran asserts that the body of the Pharaoh was preserved as a sign for future generations (Quran 10:92). However, historical evidence indicates that while mummification was practiced, there is no known preserved body specifically attributed to the Pharaoh of the Exodus story.
Analysis: This contrasts with established historical records and archaeological findings, leading to the view that the claim may be false.


3. Logical Contradiction: God's Power vs. Human Free Will
Claim: The Quran claims that God is all-powerful and knows what everyone will do (Quran 2:106), yet it also suggests that God leads astray or allows people to err (Quran 2:26). If God is all-knowing and powerful, how can people genuinely have free will?
Analysis: This presents a classic logical dilemma when attempting to reconcile divine omniscience with human agency, raising fundamental philosophical questions regarding free will.

4. Ethical Inconsistency: Violence vs. Mercy
Claim: The Quran commands believers to fight against those who do not believe (Quran 9:5) kill non-believer for disbelieving -fasadan{5:33}, while also emphasizing mercy and compassion (Quran 5:32).
Analysis: The apparent contradiction between calls for violence and the promotion of mercy creates ethical dilemmas regarding the moral framework laid out in the text, suggesting a conflict in ethical teachings.

5. Chronological Discrepancies: Creation Timeline
Claim: The Quran describes the creation of the heavens and the earth in six "days" (Quran 7:54), but does not clearly define what constitutes a "day." In contrast to scientific models of cosmology that detail a much longer timeline for the formation of the universe and Earth, the Quran's timeline can appear inconsistent.
Analysis: This has led to interpretations that lack clarity and could be seen as inconsistent with scientific evidence regarding the age of the universe and geological processes.

Conclusion
These selected contradictions are notable for their potential irrefutability due to established scientific facts, historical records, logical reasoning, and ethical considerations. While interpretations of the Quran vary widely, the above examples stand out for raising significant questions that challenge reconciliations with empirical evidence or logical coherence.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:12 am The Constitution of Islam is represented solely by the Quran which was delivered by Allah to Muhammad via Angel Gabriel/
There are loads of contradictions in the Quran that question its credibility.

There may well be LOADS MORE CONTRADICTIONS in the posts, here, by "veritas aequitas".

However, "veritas aequitas's" OWN posts, themselves, question their OWN credibility, ANYWAY.

Veritas Aequitas

alan1000 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:03 pm Of course, it's a well-known fact that the christian bible never contradicts itself at any point.

Did you know that, according to the Old Testament, the israelites routinely massacred every man, woman and child who opposed them on their journey to the promised land? Did you know that, at one place, they assembled the male prisoners in the marketplace, and gutted their pregnant wives in front of them, so the fetuses fell out onto the paving stones? It must be true, because the bible is the word of god, yes?

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:39 pm From: https://wellspringchristianministries.o ... ised-land/

"That said, it is understandable that so many would recoil from God’s command that every living person in Canaan be put to death as His people conquer the land. No mercy for those women and children, no compassion on the aged, God’s instructions were as clear as they were brutal.

Many outside the faith have planted their flag here, arguing that our God is immoral, monstrous. Many on the fringes of the faith perform sundry exegetical gymnastics to wiggle out from under the account. Many faithful believers are simply puzzled and embarrassed. The God we worship, however, the true and living God, did in fact give this command, and rightly so. If we would rightly worship Him, even here we would praise His name."

Lol, can you believe it?! 'Praise' this monster, he says?

But he's good because he's already talking nonsense. There was no god commanding them to go ham on the people. That was all in their collective vitamin D deficient pre-scientific superstitious minds.

This should be irrelevant, though. We should still be appalled that a person might want to believe such a thing actually happened and proceed to praise it. The guy needs a good lecturing by Russell or Harris or someone, i dunno.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:30 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:12 am The Constitution of Islam is represented solely by the Quran which was delivered by Allah to Muhammad via Angel Gabriel/
There are loads of contradictions in the Quran that question its credibility.

There may well be LOADS MORE CONTRADICTIONS in the posts, here, by "veritas aequitas".

However, "veritas aequitas's" OWN posts, themselves, question their OWN credibility, ANYWAY.

Age wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 9:30 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Wed Jan 22, 2025 6:12 am The Constitution of Islam is represented solely by the Quran which was delivered by Allah to Muhammad via Angel Gabriel/
There are loads of contradictions in the Quran that question its credibility.

There may well be LOADS MORE CONTRADICTIONS in the posts, here, by "veritas aequitas".

However, "veritas aequitas's" OWN posts, themselves, question their OWN credibility, ANYWAY.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:05 am

alan1000 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:03 pm Of course, it's a well-known fact that the christian bible never contradicts itself at any point.

Did you know that, according to the Old Testament, the israelites routinely massacred every man, woman and child who opposed them on their journey to the promised land? Did you know that, at one place, they assembled the male prisoners in the marketplace, and gutted their pregnant wives in front of them, so the fetuses fell out onto the paving stones? It must be true, because the bible is the word of god, yes?

The OP is specific to Quran, why must you deviate with the 'what about .... ?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:05 am Btw, the OT has not critical link with Christianity per se which is grounded on the words of Christ as son of God.
A Christian is a believer who had entered into a personal 'covenant' [divine contract] with Christ/God upon acceptance of God's offer in John 3:16.
The terms of contract are solely within the Gospels of Christ and no where else.
The Acts, Epistles and OT are merely appendixes as guides where relevant to the effective contractual terms in the Gospels only.

The Gospels may have contradictions but they are not significant because the overriding moral maxim of Christianity is 'love all, even enemies' [Mathew 5-7].

On the other hand, a M can insist they have the godly right and divine obligation to kill non-believers upon the slightest threats [fasadan] to the religion. However, the counter is, because the holy texts is full of contradictions, thus should be fangless.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:05 am

alan1000 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 28, 2025 6:03 pm Of course, it's a well-known fact that the christian bible never contradicts itself at any point.

Did you know that, according to the Old Testament, the israelites routinely massacred every man, woman and child who opposed them on their journey to the promised land? Did you know that, at one place, they assembled the male prisoners in the marketplace, and gutted their pregnant wives in front of them, so the fetuses fell out onto the paving stones? It must be true, because the bible is the word of god, yes?

The OP is specific to Quran, why must you deviate with the 'what about .... ?

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:05 am Btw, the OT has not critical link with Christianity per se which is grounded on the words of Christ as son of God.
A Christian is a believer who had entered into a personal 'covenant' [divine contract] with Christ/God upon acceptance of God's offer in John 3:16.
The terms of contract are solely within the Gospels of Christ and no where else.
The Acts, Epistles and OT are merely appendixes as guides where relevant to the effective contractual terms in the Gospels only.

The Gospels may have contradictions but they are not significant because the overriding moral maxim of Christianity is 'love all, even enemies' [Mathew 5-7].

On the other hand, a M can insist they have the godly right and divine obligation to kill non-believers upon the slightest threats [fasadan] to the religion. However, the counter is, because the holy texts is full of contradictions, thus should be fangless.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 6:08 am

promethean75 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 5:39 pm From: https://wellspringchristianministries.o ... ised-land/

"That said, it is understandable that so many would recoil from God’s command that every living person in Canaan be put to death as His people conquer the land. No mercy for those women and children, no compassion on the aged, God’s instructions were as clear as they were brutal.

Many outside the faith have planted their flag here, arguing that our God is immoral, monstrous. Many on the fringes of the faith perform sundry exegetical gymnastics to wiggle out from under the account. Many faithful believers are simply puzzled and embarrassed. The God we worship, however, the true and living God, did in fact give this command, and rightly so. If we would rightly worship Him, even here we would praise His name."

Lol, can you believe it?! 'Praise' this monster, he says?

But he's good because he's already talking nonsense. There was no god commanding them to go ham on the people. That was all in their collective vitamin D deficient pre-scientific superstitious minds.

This should be irrelevant, though. We should still be appalled that a person might want to believe such a thing actually happened and proceed to praise it. The guy needs a good lecturing by Russell or Harris or someone, i dunno.

Whatever he does, the overriding maxim is, as a Christian he has to love you regardless of what you do, i.e. cannot do evil to you at all.

Surely, you are very aware what the other religion will do to you upon the slightest threat to the religion, i.e. if you were to draw cartoon, the worst can also happen to you because your are merely a disbeliever which is also a threat to the religion.