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This video speaks the truth. We can't hide from the truth. We need to stop destroying our planet. This is the single greatest issue that faces all of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nphuPGERejQ

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jan 20, 2025 1:12 am This video speaks the truth. We can't hide from the truth. We need to stop destroying our planet. This is the single greatest issue that faces all of us.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nphuPGERejQ

The 'thing' with you adult human beings, here, in the days when this is being written, is you do not really care about what happens to ALL of 'you', human beings. you only really care about you, and a very, very small number of generational selected ones 'after' 'you', ONLY.

Which is WHY you adult human beings KEEP DESTROYING the VERY HOME that ALL of you human beings NEED, in order to keep LIVING, and SURVIVING.

The OBTAINING of MORE and MORE money, while you are individually alive, is A FAR MORE IMPORTANT 'an issue' for the VAST MAJORITY of you.

“In the days when this is being written” it is wise to remind ourselves that we live in a time of war — so-called forth and fifth generation warfare. Idea-war, war of perception, war of ideological control.

Examine “global warming” (climate change) and its connections to radical political ideologies and their implementation.

There are contrary opinions about the cause of the recent climate trends. But consider this: to examine them, to think in different terms than the conventional and allowed modes of thought, tightly controlled and even enforced by the “righteous ones”, is described as an evil, backward act. Note the guilt-slinging and the intensely psychological ploys.

The notion that the world, the atmosphere, the gods of earth and sky, are rising up against errant man — a profoundly psychological view — is potentially at the core of a wide-spread social hysteria. The sense is that the very ground under our feet, the raging sky, has turned against us because of our sins, is potentially the operative mood here.

It is not surprising that Chomsky has attached his neo-communistic ideological platform to the ultra-paranoid notion that Chaos reigns, that the seas rebel, that the ground fissures and cracks, that storms rage and threaten not only man but “organized life on the planet”.

You see? It fits into certain patterns of social engineering. These are so ubiquitous that we begin not to notice their onslaught.

If you would subscribe to The Course, if you would relinquish your greedy grip on the $2,999.00 subscription fee, you would get access to the Knowledge That Cures™.

Consider:

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Now, here is another thing to consider (just an idea). Recently, an ideologically-driven fanatic has come to lodge himself on the forum. Yes, BigMike. Notice how he presents his notions as Absolute Facts that cannot be opposed? Examine also the political and social policy recommendations that are attached.

Get it? This could well be the “mind virus” that is being talked about. Social hysteria. Deeply psychological “ideas” that are really feelings which rise up and capture people.

You can at least munch your anti-psychotics and settle yourself down to a degree, but consider poor BigMike: What medicine can he access?

Alexis Jacobi, the Wiseman of PN®, teaches the Art of gaining “philosophical distance” and examining Our Present from a height, where feelings, oh so turbulent, oh so powerful! are separated from clear ideas in such a way that Order is restored to the soul of man. I have cured many many lunatics over the course of the years!

Would you PLEASE, Gary, consider taking shelter under my Wing of TruthⓂ?

There are contrary opinions about the cause of the recent climate trends. But consider this: to examine them, to think in different terms than the conventional and allowed modes of thought, tightly controlled and even enforced by the “righteous ones”, is described as an evil, backward act. Note the guilt-slinging and the intensely psychological ploys.

Both sides have been able to have their say. And both sides demonize the other side. Not always, but often enough.

Recently, an ideologically-driven fanatic has come to lodge himself on the forum. Yes, BigMike. Notice how he presents his notions as Absolute Facts that cannot be opposed? Examine also the political and social policy recommendations that are attached.

How is Big Mike really any different than IC, VA, Henry Quirk, Walker, Wizard or Godelian?

This place is full of pontiffs.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:03 pm How is Big Mike really any different than IC, VA, Henry Quirk, Walker, Wizard or Godelian?

One very evident reason is that His Bigness tells us that his views and ideas are far more than merely opinions, but are derived from incontrovertible facts of physics. As rain falls, as light travels, BigMike speaks mathematical truths that are irrefutable.

Also, he embellishes his views (a sort of physics-Marxism?) through the use of of AI engines. That means accessing idea-centers that are forming themselves as ideological platforms with a robotic power to insert themselves into quote/unquote “conversations”.

The Era of the Ideological Worm-Robot is upon us.

IC is fanatical insofar as he clings to “pictures” that (most) can no longer believe in. Yet — and this is my view — there is a metaphysical base that still “holds water” (and Alexis Jacobi can explain). In other areas he is generally more balanced, and certainly more informed, than many others.

I do not see Henry as driven by fanaticism.

Wizard is involved with rebellious ideas, counter-currents, but I cannot ascertain a specific or concretized “ideology”, can you?

I agree that Godelian seems to have a more defined stance, but I am quite uncertain what it actually is.

They all have their exalted positions and they are not budging from them no matter what arguments or evidence are presented.

I find that Big Mike might actually be more flexible and open to other ideas.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:16 pm I find that Big Mike might actually be more flexible and open to other ideas.

It would be helpful if you’d present an example. “Might actually” is an odd way to put it.

When I talked to him about responsibility, he eventually admitted that there is (moral) responsibility in a deterministic universe. There was a certain amount of hedging but an admission none the less.

And he was able to follow my reasoning. Some others simply repeat their mantras and ignore all arguments.

He has asserted since the beginning that a specific morality must be applied, but ex post facto as it were. No one makes a decision, in a given moment, no one can make a (typically understood) moral decision. We are determined like “rolling rocks” are determined.

But in some other way, when analysis is made of environmental factors, education, conditioning, habits and prejudices, all of which are “prior causes”, then perhaps a body of men can make reasoned decisions that are “moral”.

He takes with the left and gives it all back with the right. It is quite loopy really.

Still, you have not addressed his particular fanaticism.

He likes to spread the gospel of determinism.

But as I said, I don't find it to be much different than what lots of posters are doing here.

He can be inconsistent and wobbly. It's probably possible to smooth that out through more conversation but I no longer have enough interest to go down a long road.

Understood. The road would be interminable.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:35 pm “In the days when this is being written” it is wise to remind ourselves that we live in a time of war — so-called forth and fifth generation warfare. Idea-war, war of perception, war of ideological control.

It is also wise to KNOW that living 'this way' CAN NOT and WILL NOT LAST FOREVER. So, either through A COMPLETE ANNIHILATION, OR, A COMPLETE CHANGE, 'the time of war' ENDS, FOR SURE.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:35 pm Examine “global warming” (climate change) and its connections to radical political ideologies and their implementation.

But, a human being induced 'warming' of the environment or globe is just connected to your adult human beings CONTINUAL LUST FOR MORE and MORE MONEY, in the days when this is being written. your CONTINUAL GREEDY and SELFISH WAYS are NOT CONDUCIVE TO the environment, NOT TO your One and ONLY 'home', earth.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:35 pm There are contrary opinions about the cause of the recent climate trends.

LOL What is there TO DISPUTE, EXACTLY?

OBVIOUSLY, WHEN you adult human beings WANT MORE and MORE 'UNNECESSARY things', which are bought and sold WITH and BY MONEY, then OF COURSE, 'the environment' WILL SUFFER.

But, do NOT LET that Fact STOP ANY of you FROM WANTING MORE and MORE 'UNNECESSARY things'.

The ONLY 'CAUSE' of POLLUTION, AND AN UNEXPECTED RISE IN CLIMATE TEMPERATURES, ARE you adult human beings WHEN DOING what IS Wrong, in Life.

STOP 'MISSING THE MARK', and START DOING what IS Right, in Life, ONLY, then, and ONLY THEN, will the True and Right CHANGE NEEDED, WILL BEGIN.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:35 pm But consider this: to examine them, to think in different terms than the conventional and allowed modes of thought, tightly controlled and even enforced by the “righteous ones”, is described as an evil, backward act. Note the guilt-slinging and the intensely psychological ploys.

The notion that the world, the atmosphere, the gods of earth and sky, are rising up against errant man — a profoundly psychological view — is potentially at the core of a wide-spread social hysteria.

OBVIOUSLY IF, and WHEN, you DO 'things', then THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES.

DO 'Wrong', and THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. DO 'Right', and THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:35 pm The sense is that the very ground under our feet, the raging sky, has turned against us because of our sins, is potentially the operative mood here.

WHY do you think or BELIEVE that there would be NO NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES TO your GREEDY and SELFISH MISBEHAVING?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 1:35 pm It is not surprising that Chomsky has attached his neo-communistic ideological platform to the ultra-paranoid notion that Chaos reigns, that the seas rebel, that the ground fissures and cracks, that storms rage and threaten not only man but “organized life on the planet”.

You see? It fits into certain patterns of social engineering. These are so ubiquitous that we begin not to notice their onslaught.

If you would subscribe to The Course, if you would relinquish your greedy grip on the $2,999.00 subscription fee, you would get access to the Knowledge That Cures™.

Consider:

1
2
3

Now, here is another thing to consider (just an idea). Recently, an ideologically-driven fanatic has come to lodge himself on the forum. Yes, BigMike. Notice how he presents his notions as Absolute Facts that cannot be opposed? Examine also the political and social policy recommendations that are attached.

Get it? This could well be the “mind virus” that is being talked about. Social hysteria. Deeply psychological “ideas” that are really feelings which rise up and capture people.

You can at least munch your anti-psychotics and settle yourself down to a degree, but consider poor BigMike: What medicine can he access?

Alexis Jacobi, the Wiseman of PN®, teaches the Art of gaining “philosophical distance” and examining Our Present from a height, where feelings, oh so turbulent, oh so powerful! are separated from clear ideas in such a way that Order is restored to the soul of man. I have cured many many lunatics over the course of the years!

Would you PLEASE, Gary, consider taking shelter under my Wing of TruthⓂ?

But, the "wiseman of philosophy now" is CERTAINLY NOT "alexis jacobi". "alexis jacobi" is just PROVIDING A PRIME example OF, and PROVING, ONCE AGAIN and FURTHER, the phenomena known as the 'dunning-kruger effect'.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:26 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:03 pm How is Big Mike really any different than IC, VA, Henry Quirk, Walker, Wizard or Godelian?

One very evident reason is that His Bigness tells us that his views and ideas are far more than merely opinions, but are derived from incontrovertible facts of physics. As rain falls, as light travels, BigMike speaks mathematical truths that are irrefutable.

Also, he embellishes his views (a sort of physics-Marxism?) through the use of of AI engines. That means accessing idea-centers that are forming themselves as ideological platforms with a robotic power to insert themselves into quote/unquote “conversations”.

The Era of the Ideological Worm-Robot is upon us.

IC is fanatical insofar as he clings to “pictures” that (most) can no longer believe in. Yet — and this is my view — there is a metaphysical base that still “holds water” (and Alexis Jacobi can explain).

WILL you EXPLAIN?

If yes, then WHEN, EXACTLY?

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:26 pm In other areas he is generally more balanced, and certainly more informed, than many others.

LOL Do you REALLY BELIEVE that 'the one' who BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that the WHOLE Universe was Created BY A 'male' is, REALLY, so-called 'generally more balanced'?

To some, to HAVE A BELIEF like this is on the brink of being ABSOLUTELY UNBALANCED.

"immanuel can" is CERTAINLY NOT MORE 'informed', but it does have AN ABILITY TO FOOL and DECEIVE 'others' as though it is somewhat more informed.

Alexis Jacobi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 3:26 pm I do not see Henry as driven by fanaticism.

Wizard is involved with rebellious ideas, counter-currents, but I cannot ascertain a specific or concretized “ideology”, can you?

I agree that Godelian seems to have a more defined stance, but I am quite uncertain what it actually is.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:16 pm They all have their exalted positions and they are not budging from them no matter what arguments or evidence are presented.

VERY True.

And, AGAIN, while one is BELIEVING some thing is true, then they are NOT OPEN AT ALL TO ANY thing CONTRARY or OPPOSING.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 8:16 pm
I find that Big Mike might actually be more flexible and open to other ideas.

I have YET TO SEE this, but maybe you can and will PROVIDE some examples of WHERE and WHEN "bigmike" HAS SHOWN signs of being FLEXIBLE and OPEN to 'other ideas'.

Now, OBVIOUSLY EVERY one is OPEN to 'other ideas', BECAUSE EVERY one IS 'LOOKING FOR' ANY 'other idea/s', which would back up and support their 'current' BELIEFS and PRESUMPTIONS. Which is just known as 'confirmation bias', by the way. However, while ANY one HAS or IS HOLDING ONTO A BELIEF, then they are NOT OPEN NOR EVEN FLEXIBLE, AT ALL, TO ANY 'idea' that IS CONTRARY, or in OPPOSITION, TO their 'current' BELIEF or PRESUMPTION.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:56 pm When I talked to him about responsibility, he eventually admitted that there is (moral) responsibility in a deterministic universe. There was a certain amount of hedging but an admission none the less.

But, there was ABSOLUTELY NO BUDGING on its ABSOLUTE BELIEF that there is ONLY 'determinism', and 'determinism', ONLY, correct?

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:56 pm And he was able to follow my reasoning.

people WILL follow 'other's reasoning', BUT, ONLY, UP TO A CERTAIN POINT WHERE 'that reasoning' DOES NOT COUNTER 'their BELIEF nor PRESUMPTION'.

phyllo wrote: ↑Tue Jan 21, 2025 9:56 pm Some others simply repeat their mantras and ignore all arguments.

If, for example, one is saying and claiming that, actually, it is the earth that revolves around the sun, and not the sun that revolves around the earth, who KNOW, ALREADY, that JUST IGNORING 'other's arguments' MAKES MORE SENSE.

By the way, just because another presents 'an argument', there ARE REASONS TO IGNORE 'that argument'. For example, EVERY 'argument', which is NOT A 'sound AND valid argument' is better off being IGNORED and NEVER REPEATED. (Unless, of course, 'those arguments' are USED for PROVIDING examples of HOW TO NOT PRESENT ARGUMENTS.)