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If anybody here is paying attention (lol yea right...), then you might have noticed already, US/Western Culture is shifting:

Sam Hyde's Message For Elon Musk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzl3qCaG2Cg

This is a video of commentary and response, by popular American gamer streamer 'Asmongold', of Sam Hyde (Alt-Right comedian), to Elon Musk and his recent arguments and rebukes against H1B Visas, specifically of hiring lots of East Indians and importing them into the United States. The topic reflects the recent US Election, by the Far-Right, re-electing Donald Trump and rebuking the Far-Left. This was a decisive, major victory. Because the US Conservatives won the US Presidency, Senate, House of Representatives, *AND* the US Popular Vote.

The reason why this is so important, now, is because US "Our Democracy" implies that the vast majority of Westerners (above 50% popular vote) think, feel, and desire certain things and look a certain way.

The US 'Democrats' are' fixated on the Popular Vote...which is the Herd Mentality psychology-sociological trend. In other words, if most other people are thinking/feeling/believing a certain way, then that tends to be the 'Right way' of thinking, on the "Right Side of History". Most humans automatically gravitate to this "Top 50%" mentality. Most people get their moral beliefs, their Righteous Indignation, from the "Top 50%".


The point I'm getting at here...is that the American-Left is now forced into the political discourse, cultural arguments of what was previously the American-Right. The Dialogue and Culture has shifted.

Or the lefties can just sit back and wait for MAGA to self destruct. Trump got 49.9% of the vote last I knew. Obama did way better than that and Biden did substantially better himself in 2020, so the emergency you describe might not be real.

Even before entering office, Trump has attempted to nominate a paedophile for Attorney General. After failing in that effort he switched to somebody who he once paid off to prevent a fraud investigation. Sec of Defence: alcohol abuse problems, sexual assault allegations. His Sec of DHS got Brain Worm by eating road kill, and is an anti-vaxxer who wants to ban corn syrup. His Sec of Education is the WWE wrestling lady, and also laden with sexual assault allegations. For Homeland: Kristi Noem, who published a book full of easily exposed lies and shot a dog. For DNI: even most of the GOP think she works for the Russians. And counsellor to the president (Alina Habba) will no longer be a lawyer by the end of his term, she's been caught representing both sides of the same case and will be struck off.

Aside from Habba, those people all require Congressional approval, so they won't all make the cut. Which will put Trump in a precarious position. He can't trust his VP, who was forced upon him by billionaire donors, and where he's able to, he's selecting for staff at all levels purely on the basis of personal fealty.

He either needs to have enough people on the cabinet that he's sure Vance couldn't get a 25th amendment vote through no matter what, or he has to purge Vance. To purge the VP, he would first need to get Vance's sugar daddies (Theil and Musk) out of the picture. Otherwise, the next time he goes into a hospital, he won't be president any more when he comes out.

The ingredient that makes right wing hard man rule so popular in general is missing from the incoming American administration. I refer to the usually misplaced aura of competence that hangs around them. The trains running on time bit. Trump II is going to be out in the open complete fucking madness. Every single week, often every day, a new and amazing level of stupidity will be displayed.

This notion that GRandWizard22 and IC have that Trump has won by such a margin that all his enemies are in complete disarray and must utterly rethink all their current ideas is just not realistic. The MAGA movement did better than the Occupy movement not by being more coherent and sane, but by having a mentally unstable celebrity to use as a figurehead.

'Popular vote' is irrelevant.Theoretically you could have one state with a huge population where practically everyone votes for one party, a party that won the 'popular vote', yet the other party won every other state. If the popular vote decided an election then you could hypothetically have the same party winning every election. The electoral college is by far the more democratic way to run an election. This is borne out by the fact that election wins are split 50/50 between Democrat and Republican in the US. Democrats will most likely win the next election--if not that one then definitely the one after that.

And of course there's the drug abusing son too... which is of course grounds for a special prosecutor if he owns any guns at all...

It wouldn't be coke because one wouldn't have an open bag in their pocket to dip a finger in. Has to be something else. Might be a liquid... but then what is he doing, squeezing a dropper with his fingers?

This one is a mystery. Unless the guy just poured some coke into his pocket.

Could just be picking asparagus out of his teeth from the chinese buffet earlier that day.

I thought cocaine was sucked up the nose with a straw (at least that's how they always do it in movies).

accelafine wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 7:50 pm I thought cocaine was sucked up the nose with a straw (at least that's how they always do it in movies).

In the movies, after the lines have been snorted and there's a bunch of leftover powder smeared on a mirror, sometimes the guy wipes that up with his finger and then smears it on his gums, exactly the way Don Jr does in that gif. It's a little extra bump with the leftovers.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmOr the lefties can just sit back and wait for MAGA to self destruct.

How, exactly? Conservatives have control over every area of US Government.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmTrump got 49.9% of the vote last I knew.

And Kamala Harris got 48.4% of the Popular Vote!

You lost the Popular Vote! You didn't even see it coming! You still can't believe it, lol!

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmObama did way better than that and Biden did substantially better himself in 2020, so the emergency you describe might not be real.

Quit living in the Past.

Should we go back to Ronald Reagan's numbers???

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmEven before entering office, Trump has attempted to nominate a paedophile for Attorney General.

Baseless lies and accusations, as-if Dems aren't the Pedo-Party? President Biden showered with his daughter and she was creeped out enough about it to write it in her Diary. So it's not like you actually care about Pedos.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmAfter failing in that effort he switched to somebody who he once paid off to prevent a fraud investigation. Sec of Defence: alcohol abuse problems, sexual assault allegations. His Sec of DHS got Brain Worm by eating road kill, and is an anti-vaxxer who wants to ban corn syrup. His Sec of Education is the WWE wrestling lady, and also laden with sexual assault allegations. For Homeland: Kristi Noem, who published a book full of easily exposed lies and shot a dog. For DNI: even most of the GOP think she works for the Russians. And counsellor to the president (Alina Habba) will no longer be a lawyer by the end of his term, she's been caught representing both sides of the same case and will be struck off.

Aside from Habba, those people all require Congressional approval, so they won't all make the cut. Which will put Trump in a precarious position. He can't trust his VP, who was forced upon him by billionaire donors, and where he's able to, he's selecting for staff at all levels purely on the basis of personal fealty.

He either needs to have enough people on the cabinet that he's sure Vance couldn't get a 25th amendment vote through no matter what, or he has to purge Vance. To purge the VP, he would first need to get Vance's sugar daddies (Theil and Musk) out of the picture. Otherwise, the next time he goes into a hospital, he won't be president any more when he comes out.

All baseless, purely political 'legalese' accusations, empty, meaningless.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmThe ingredient that makes right wing hard man rule so popular in general is missing from the incoming American administration. I refer to the usually misplaced aura of competence that hangs around them. The trains running on time bit. Trump II is going to be out in the open complete fucking madness. Every single week, often every day, a new and amazing level of stupidity will be displayed.

"Competency", you mean like Brainless Biden, the Demented, and your glorious pull-out of Afghanistan...as-if that wasn't a complete Debacle?

Or Putin's invasion of Ukraine, under your Administration's weakened leadership? World leaders clearly do not respect your Candidates...

Because they're weak.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmThis notion that GRandWizard22 and IC have that Trump has won by such a margin that all his enemies are in complete disarray and must utterly rethink all their current ideas is just not realistic. The MAGA movement did better than the Occupy movement not by being more coherent and sane, but by having a mentally unstable celebrity to use as a figurehead.

You're still in the Denial stage of Grief...you'll come around.

You are poor at maintaining a context.

You open with this...

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 11:26 am The reason why this is so important, now, is because US "Our Democracy" implies that the vast majority of Westerners (above 50% popular vote) think, feel, and desire certain things and look a certain way.

But when corrected just respond with a confused non-sequitur.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 10:51 am

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Wed Jan 01, 2025 4:54 pmTrump got 49.9% of the vote last I knew.

And Kamala Harris got 48.4% of the Popular Vote!

You lost the Popular Vote! You didn't even see it coming! You still can't believe it, lol!

Nobody is going to be able to agree with you if you can't remember what you are arguing.

Keep denying you lost the Popular vote...fine with me. Maybe Trump's inauguration will let reality seep into you a little bit?

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:13 pm Keep denying you lost the Popular vote...fine with me. Maybe Trump's inauguration will let reality seep into you a little bit?

I wasn't denying that Harris lost the popular vote. I was pointing out that your claim that a "vast majority of Westerners (above 50% popular vote)" is mistaken, and you are actually referring to a narrow plurality. This shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand.

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:17 pmI wasn't denying that Harris lost the popular vote. I was pointing out that your claim that a "vast majority of Westerners (above 50% popular vote)" is mistaken, and you are actually referring to a narrow plurality. This shouldn't be so difficult for you to understand.

I'm certain it's well above 50% seeing how badly Liberal-Leftists skew Election Results...just like 2020's "win".

You had to cheat hard on that one to edge out the "victory". Fortunately Harris was so god-damned unlikeable that no amount of cheating would have helped you this time around. And you still struggle for the "50%" number.

You lost in every metric; Trump, MAGA, US Conservatives are the undisputed champions right now. You're grasping for any semblance of salvation.

Wizard22 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:23 pm You lost in every metric; Trump, MAGA, US Conservatives are the undisputed champions right now. You're grasping for any semblance of salvation.

So if Trump doesn't repeal and replace Obamacare/ACA in 2025, that will be entirely the fault of the Trump, MAGA, US Conservatives who are undisputed champions then won't it?

FlashDangerpants wrote: ↑Thu Jan 02, 2025 12:47 pmSo if Trump doesn't repeal and replace Obamacare/ACA in 2025, that will be entirely the fault of the Trump, MAGA, US Conservatives who are undisputed champions then won't it?

Leftists care about "Healthcare", which is mostly consumed and wasted by ill, diseased, obese, minorities with drug-addictions, who are not self-responsible adults. If they were, then they would be Rightists, and against Socialized Medicine and Big Pharma.

Your lagging behind in Politics. The main reason Trump and Conservatives got re-elected, was the 3rd world Immigration issue, and poor economy next. Those two, are the main reasons your side lost.