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There is more than enough evidence that we reincarnate, carried out at some universities, mainly at the University of Virginia.
Research was started by Dr. Ian Stevenson, a biochemist and psychiatrist, several decades ago. Today, a team of professional researchers is following this path of proving memories of past lives in children.

that memory isn't the right one and we have proof

-Imp

Please keep these ghouls as far as possible away from children.

jasonlava wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2024 1:04 am I find the reincarnation research really interesting, especially since it challenges how we think about memory and consciousness. While it doesn’t necessarily prove mind-body duality, it does bring up some thought-provoking questions about what happens to our minds after we die.

I believe that there is no other option to understand reincarnation than the mind-body duality.
And this is correct because it is not the brain that receives the perceptions, but the mind, through the brain.
And there is a lot of evidence of near-death experiences, as well as people who see themselves floating outside their bodies (I know of three specific cases, an acquaintance, a relative and the father of a professor colleague of mine, who have described with perfect clarity the events that occurred when they were looking at everything from a place where their body was not) that support the idea that the mind is one thing and the body another...

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What part of *I* supposedly reincarnate and furthermore what is its purpose? If I believed in Jesus, I'd instead get to take the shortcut into heaven, preempting any further complications called life!

Dubious wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:39 am What part of *I* supposedly reincarnate and furthermore what is its purpose?

Que?

The DNA wraps around the *I*...

Dubious wrote:If I believed in Jesus, I'd instead get to take the shortcut into heaven, preempting any further complications called life!

So it's a good idea to learn about Je Sus and be the best Christian U could possibly be, não?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:53 am

Dubious wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:39 am What part of *I* supposedly reincarnate and furthermore what is its purpose?

Que?

The DNA wraps around the *I*...

Dubious wrote:If I believed in Jesus, I'd instead get to take the shortcut into heaven, preempting any further complications called life!

So it's a good idea to learn about Je Sus and be the best Christian U could possibly be, não?

What else is there to learn othe than, and about, 'He(is)us'?

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:20 am What else is there to learn othe than, and about, 'He(is)us'?

Everything is out there for us to learn. However, I don't want GOD to inform me of others' indiscretions ...I'd rather not know and have their shit on my mind whilst attempting to enjoy HEAVE_N.

margii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:09 pm There is more than enough evidence that we reincarnate, carried out at some universities, mainly at the University of Virginia.
Research was started by Dr. Ian Stevenson, a biochemist and psychiatrist, several decades ago. Today, a team of professional researchers is following this path of proving memories of past lives in children.

Somehow, the word professional isn't all that reassuring in this instance.

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Qualities get reincarnated, minus the baggage of self-identity and self-concept.

When self-identity and self-concept are also reincarnated, along with the same configuration of qualities, then you have a resurrection on your hands.

I think a lot of folks probably confuse resurrection with reincarnation.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:33 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:20 am What else is there to learn othe than, and about, 'He(is)us'?

Everything is out there for us to learn.

OBVIOUSLY, you have MISSED the POINT, and the LESSON, here, once again.

"Jesus", literally, translates to 'He is us', human beings, as 'we' are all 'children', in Life, or the 'child/ren of God'.

The 'J' in some languages is pronounced 'He'.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:33 am However, I don't want GOD to inform me of others' indiscretions ...I'd rather not know and have their shit on my mind whilst attempting to enjoy HEAVE_N.

So, you, allegedly BELIEVE (in) God, but 'you' also do not want to LISTEN TO God.

Which, as a lot of parents will attest to, 'children' really do not want to LISTEN, some times.

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:43 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:33 am

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:20 am What else is there to learn othe than, and about, 'He(is)us'?

Everything is out there for us to learn.

OBVIOUSLY, you have MISSED the POINT, and the LESSON, here, once again.

"Jesus", literally, translates to 'He is us', human beings, as 'we' are all 'children', in Life, or the 'child/ren of God'.

The 'J' in some languages is pronounced 'He'.

Actually it's pronounced "hey" as in hey sus.

My form is Je (french "i") sus..here in Oz we sus things out, in the case I present Je sus Christ..(reasoning)

Age wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:33 am However, I don't want GOD to inform me of others' indiscretions ...I'd rather not know and have their shit on my mind whilst attempting to enjoy HEAVE_N.

So, you, allegedly BELIEVE (in) God, but 'you' also do not want to LISTEN TO God.

Which, as a lot of parents will attest to, 'children' really do not want to LISTEN, some times.

woteva, I know it's bonkers day today but I thought you'd try something different for a change.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:12 pm

Age wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 12:43 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:33 am

Everything is out there for us to learn.

OBVIOUSLY, you have MISSED the POINT, and the LESSON, here, once again.

"Jesus", literally, translates to 'He is us', human beings, as 'we' are all 'children', in Life, or the 'child/ren of God'.

The 'J' in some languages is pronounced 'He'.

Actually it's pronounced "hey" as in hey sus.

If this is what you say, and BELIEVE SO, then okay.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:12 pm My form is Je (french "i") sus..here in Oz we sus things out, in the case I present Je sus Christ..(reasoning)

Okay, but what you people do there is NOT a reflection on nor of all things, correct?

Also, do you believe that 'your form' here is better than 'other forums'.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 1:12 pm

Age wrote:

attofishpi wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:33 am However, I don't want GOD to inform me of others' indiscretions ...I'd rather not know and have their shit on my mind whilst attempting to enjoy HEAVE_N.

So, you, allegedly BELIEVE (in) God, but 'you' also do not want to LISTEN TO God.

Which, as a lot of parents will attest to, 'children' really do not want to LISTEN, some times.

woteva, I know it's bonkers day today but I thought you'd try something different for a change.

Okay. Why and when did you start thinking this, exactly?

And, have you tried something different here "yourself" "attofishpi"?

If yes, then what was that, exactly?

But, if no, then why did you, supposedly, think that others would?

Walker wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2024 10:58 am

margii wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:09 pm There is more than enough evidence that we reincarnate, carried out at some universities, mainly at the University of Virginia.
Research was started by Dr. Ian Stevenson, a biochemist and psychiatrist, several decades ago. Today, a team of professional researchers is following this path of proving memories of past lives in children.

Somehow, the word professional isn't all that reassuring in this instance.

Qualities get reincarnated, minus the baggage of self-identity and self-concept.

When self-identity and self-concept are also reincarnated, along with the same configuration of qualities, then you have a resurrection on your hands.

I think a lot of folks probably confuse resurrection with reincarnation.

I'm sorry to contradict you: the concept of resurrection is very clear, to resume "post mortem" the same body, not a different body... a person who is clinically dead is resurrected.

The concept of reincarnation, which was born as part of the original philosophy of Tantric Yoga, is an absolutely rational concept.

A current analogy allows us to understand it well: life, if we see it as a highway, in which only cars with their drivers can be considered living beings, when for some reason the driver changes vehicles and uses another, it is the equivalent of dying and reincarnating. And the driver-vehicle unit is a very apt analogy because that is the reality of our lives, we are pseudo-conscious minds (the unconscious levels are very deep, much deeper than Freud could imagine), that express our unconscious tendencies, in an evolutionary and progressive way, changing the means of expression... we come from the stones, and we have reached the human level, although some can return (by desire, obviously), to evolutionarily previous levels...

It seems to me a genius of nature to have created a mind-matter duality.