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What if the observable universe isn't expanding, but instead the total universe is a hyperspehrical space with a say roughly half-universe sized anti-matter black hole at the exact opposite point within the hypersphere from our perspective, roughly at an equal distance from us in every direction beyond the edge of the observable universe? And after the "Big Bang", everything was flung out in every direction from that black hole, and this stage lasted for about 9 billion years, and then about 5 billion years ago the gravity of the black hole overcame the inertia of the inital explosion and everything started falling back towards the black hole, and we perceive the gravity of this black hole as dark energy? But then I guess the first problem that comes up is that the Hubble constant shouldn't be a linear constant but a quadratic constant, because the strength of gravity changes quadratically over distance. Unless the Hubble constant IS quadratic, but the black hole is so far away that it's very hard to distinguish it from linear. The above could also mean that we would see the "expansion" rate slighty bigger in some direction and slightly smaller in the opposite direction, if the black hole isn't exactly at the opposite point, just almost exactly at the opposite point.

I AGREE about the 'random nonsense', here, especially considering what is ACTUALLY True, what you said and wrote here, among some of the other 'stuff' said and written about the Universe in this forum, is just 'random.nonsense.

These people, back when this was being written, would continually just 'make random stuff up'.

And, HOPE that it would somehow 'match up' with what is ACTUALLY True.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:58 am I AGREE about the 'random nonsense', here, especially considering what is ACTUALLY True, what you said and wrote here, among some of the other 'stuff' said and written about the Universe in this forum, is just 'random.nonsense.

These people, back when this was being written, would continually just 'make random stuff up'.

And, HOPE that it would somehow 'match up' with what is ACTUALLY True.

No one know what is actually true, you don't know it either, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

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Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:58 am I AGREE about the 'random nonsense', here, especially considering what is ACTUALLY True, what you said and wrote here, among some of the other 'stuff' said and written about the Universe in this forum, is just 'random.nonsense.

These people, back when this was being written, would continually just 'make random stuff up'.

And, HOPE that it would somehow 'match up' with what is ACTUALLY True.

No one know what is actually true,

So, once again, 'we' have another who claims to 'know' that the actual truth can not be known, or that no one knows what is actually true, while being ABSOLUTELY oblivious to just how COMPLETELY contradictory and hypocritical this is

Once again for the very slow of learning, any one who claims that 'the truth cannot be known', or similar, is making an actual self-refuting claim.

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:00 am you don't know it either, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

So, LOL, this one claims that NO one can 'know' the actual truth, while at the EXACT SAME time claiming that it 'knows' the actual truth.

And, the funniest part of all of this is this one, even after all of this time, still, does not SEE and RECOGNIZE this.'actual Truth'.

Oh, and by the way, the Universe IS eternal and infinite, just like the earth is not flat and the sun does not revolve around the earth.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:58 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 7:58 am I AGREE about the 'random nonsense', here, especially considering what is ACTUALLY True, what you said and wrote here, among some of the other 'stuff' said and written about the Universe in this forum, is just 'random.nonsense.

These people, back when this was being written, would continually just 'make random stuff up'.

And, HOPE that it would somehow 'match up' with what is ACTUALLY True.

No one know what is actually true,

So, once again, 'we' have another who claims to 'know' that the actual truth can not be known, or that no one knows what is actually true, while being ABSOLUTELY oblivious to just how COMPLETELY contradictory and hypocritical this is

Once again for the very slow of learning, any one who claims that 'the truth cannot be known', or similar, is making an actual self-refuting claim.

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:00 am you don't know it either, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

So, LOL, this one claims that NO one can 'know' the actual truth, while at the EXACT SAME time claiming that it 'knows' the actual truth.

And, the funniest part of all of this is this one, even after all of this time, still, does not SEE and RECOGNIZE this.'actual Truth'.

Oh, and by the way, the Universe IS eternal and infinite, just like the earth is not flat and the sun does not revolve around the earth.

I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:03 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:58 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:00 am
No one know what is actually true,

So, once again, 'we' have another who claims to 'know' that the actual truth can not be known, or that no one knows what is actually true, while being ABSOLUTELY oblivious to just how COMPLETELY contradictory and hypocritical this is

Once again for the very slow of learning, any one who claims that 'the truth cannot be known', or similar, is making an actual self-refuting claim.

Atla wrote: ↑Sat Oct 19, 2024 8:00 am you don't know it either, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

So, LOL, this one claims that NO one can 'know' the actual truth, while at the EXACT SAME time claiming that it 'knows' the actual truth.

And, the funniest part of all of this is this one, even after all of this time, still, does not SEE and RECOGNIZE this.'actual Truth'.

Oh, and by the way, the Universe IS eternal and infinite, just like the earth is not flat and the sun does not revolve around the earth.

I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

LOL
LOL
LOL

This one, STILL, can NOT RECOGNIZE and SEE that if, and when, one claims some thing like, No one knows what is actually true,, then this IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM.

The words 'no one' PROVES this, (ABSOLUTELY). True.

The words 'no one' are an ABSOLUTE claim, OBVIOUSLY.

So, just maybe, it is NOT 'me' who is not able to RECOGNIZE and REALIZE things here.

And, not just that the claim, 'No one knows what is actually true', IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM, it is also a SELF-REFUTING CLAIM, and thus a False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect claim, AS WELL.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:42 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:03 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 12:58 am

So, once again, 'we' have another who claims to 'know' that the actual truth can not be known, or that no one knows what is actually true, while being ABSOLUTELY oblivious to just how COMPLETELY contradictory and hypocritical this is

Once again for the very slow of learning, any one who claims that 'the truth cannot be known', or similar, is making an actual self-refuting claim.


So, LOL, this one claims that NO one can 'know' the actual truth, while at the EXACT SAME time claiming that it 'knows' the actual truth.

And, the funniest part of all of this is this one, even after all of this time, still, does not SEE and RECOGNIZE this.'actual Truth'.

Oh, and by the way, the Universe IS eternal and infinite, just like the earth is not flat and the sun does not revolve around the earth.

I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

LOL
LOL
LOL

This one, STILL, can NOT RECOGNIZE and SEE that if, and when, one claims some thing like, No one knows what is actually true,, then this IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM.

The words 'no one' PROVES this, (ABSOLUTELY). True.

The words 'no one' are an ABSOLUTE claim, OBVIOUSLY.

So, just maybe, it is NOT 'me' who is not able to RECOGNIZE and REALIZE things here.

And, not just that the claim, 'No one knows what is actually true', IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM, it is also a SELF-REFUTING CLAIM, and thus a False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect claim, AS WELL.

I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Looks like you have no right hemisphere, Age.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:05 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:42 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:03 am
I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

LOL
LOL
LOL

This one, STILL, can NOT RECOGNIZE and SEE that if, and when, one claims some thing like, No one knows what is actually true,, then this IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM.

The words 'no one' PROVES this, (ABSOLUTELY). True.

The words 'no one' are an ABSOLUTE claim, OBVIOUSLY.

So, just maybe, it is NOT 'me' who is not able to RECOGNIZE and REALIZE things here.

And, not just that the claim, 'No one knows what is actually true', IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM, it is also a SELF-REFUTING CLAIM, and thus a False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect claim, AS WELL.

I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Did you make a true and right claim?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:05 am Looks like you have no right hemisphere, Age.

If that is what it 'looks like', to you, then okay.

But, once again, it is 'me' that is talked about and discussed, and not 'my actual words' at all.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:28 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:05 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 2:42 am

LOL
LOL
LOL

This one, STILL, can NOT RECOGNIZE and SEE that if, and when, one claims some thing like, No one knows what is actually true,, then this IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM.

The words 'no one' PROVES this, (ABSOLUTELY). True.

The words 'no one' are an ABSOLUTE claim, OBVIOUSLY.

So, just maybe, it is NOT 'me' who is not able to RECOGNIZE and REALIZE things here.

And, not just that the claim, 'No one knows what is actually true', IS an ABSOLUTE CLAIM, it is also a SELF-REFUTING CLAIM, and thus a False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect claim, AS WELL.

I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Did you make a true and right claim?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:05 am Looks like you have no right hemisphere, Age.

If that is what it 'looks like', to you, then okay.

But, once again, it is 'me' that is talked about and discussed, and not 'my actual words' at all.

I don't make absolutely true and right claims, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:55 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:28 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:05 am
I didn't make an absolute claim, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Did you make a true and right claim?

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 3:05 am Looks like you have no right hemisphere, Age.

If that is what it 'looks like', to you, then okay.

But, once again, it is 'me' that is talked about and discussed, and not 'my actual words' at all.

I don't make absolutely true and right claims,

And, according to 'your claim' above here you do not even know what is actually true. So, it is no surprise, at all, that you do not make absolutely true, nor right, claims.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:55 am it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Again, if that is what it 'seems like', to you, then okay.

And, once again, it is 'me' who is being talked about here.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:59 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:55 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 4:28 am

Did you make a true and right claim?


If that is what it 'looks like', to you, then okay.

But, once again, it is 'me' that is talked about and discussed, and not 'my actual words' at all.

I don't make absolutely true and right claims,

And, according to 'your claim' above here you do not even know what is actually true. So, it is no surprise, at all, that you do not make absolutely true, nor right, claims.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:55 am it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Again, if that is what it 'seems like', to you, then okay.

And, once again, it is 'me' who is being talked about here.

You don't know what is actually true either, it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Just so it is ABSOLUTELY CLEAR to every one here,
"atla" does not even know what is actually true.
But, "atla" does claim that it does not ANY absolutely true and right claims AT ALL.
Therefore, 'the claim' that "atla" does not make does not make absolutely true, nor right, claims is 'a claim' that MUST NOT BE absolutely true, nor right.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:02 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:59 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:55 am
I don't make absolutely true and right claims,

And, according to 'your claim' above here you do not even know what is actually true. So, it is no surprise, at all, that you do not make absolutely true, nor right, claims.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 5:55 am it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

Again, if that is what it 'seems like', to you, then okay.

And, once again, it is 'me' who is being talked about here.

You don't know what is actually true either,

OBVIOUSLY, if 'we' follow 'your logic' here, then, OF COURSE, 'I' do not know what is actually true. Because, according to you, ALONE, here, ABSOLUTELY NO one knows what is actually true.

Which, OBVIOUSLY, means that NO one knows if 'the claim' that no one knows what is actually true, is actually true, or NOT.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:02 am it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

But, you do NOT know if that is actually true, right?

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:07 am

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:02 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 6:59 am

And, according to 'your claim' above here you do not even know what is actually true. So, it is no surprise, at all, that you do not make absolutely true, nor right, claims.


Again, if that is what it 'seems like', to you, then okay.

And, once again, it is 'me' who is being talked about here.

You don't know what is actually true either,

OBVIOUSLY, if 'we' follow 'your logic' here, then, OF COURSE, 'I' do not know what is actually true. Because, according to you, ALONE, here, ABSOLUTELY NO one knows what is actually true.

Which, OBVIOUSLY, means that NO one knows if 'the claim' that no one knows what is actually true, is actually true, or NOT.

Atla wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2024 7:02 am it seems like you just literally lack the half of the brain that would enable you to realize this.

But, you do NOT know if that is actually true, right?

Right, but I already explained the above at least 5 times to you in the past.