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Here's the latest version of something I've been working on for years. The beginning will be familiar to some of you, but the bulk is brand spanking new. It's my latest attempt to make big bang cosmology, field theory, quantum mechanics, chemistry, relativity and how motorbikes work accessible to those without a degree in physics - all in a cartoon book.

https://willybouwman.blogspot.com/2024/ ... ation.html

nice presentation - dark endings are best...

question: when does light burn itself out?

we make engines that run on fuel... fuel is spent making the machine operate... eventually the fuel burns itself out

why doesn't light do that?

are black holes like elephant's graveyards?

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pm nice presentation - dark endings are best...

Thank you.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pmquestion: when does light burn itself out?

Well, one answer is that it doesn't. As per Newton's first law of motion, photons carry on moving until some force stops them. Another take on it is that the expansion of the universe, which has stretched the photons from the first flash of light into microwaves, and the reason the James Webb telescope is focused on infrared, will eventually stretch all photons into radio waves of such a wavelength that for all practical purposes, they are flat and incapable of doing any meaningful work. That's yer heat death. Mind you, there are still advocates for 'tired light' and the truth, as ever, is that different explanations work equally well. Short answer - dunno.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pmwe make engines that run on fuel... fuel is spent making the machine operate... eventually the fuel burns itself out

why doesn't light do that?

Well it's not definitely, absolutely 100% certain that it doesn't, but most mainstream physicists would be surprised if it did.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pm are black holes like elephant's graveyards?

-Imp

As in mythical? Pretty certain they are real. And I'm fairly confident elephants don't go there to die.

not mythical, but maybe light goes into the black hole to die...

-Imp

The universe is full of mystery and people are very creative when it comes to accounting for mysteries. Some people, in an attempt to account for consciousness, work on the assumption that the entire universe is conscious and that even photons have some sort of proto-consciousness. Such people might take seriously the idea that photons make some sort of choice to enter a black hole when they know their time is up. I would be very surprised if that were the case, but it's not, in my view, the craziest idea out there.

darn, I was hoping for the craziest title...

-Imp

Well, when the idea that a universe at least 90 billion light years in diameter was once smaller than an atom is a sensible idea, yer up against a pretty high bar.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:49 am Here's the latest version of something I've been working on for years. The beginning will be familiar to some of you, but the bulk is brand spanking new. It's my latest attempt to make big bang cosmology, field theory, quantum mechanics, chemistry, relativity and how motorbikes work accessible to those without a degree in physics - all in a cartoon book.

https://willybouwman.blogspot.com/2024/ ... ation.html

Excellent work, Will.

At first, it took me a while to figure out what you meant by "The Ealing Interpretation."

Then it dawned on me that perhaps you live in the Ealing district in West London, and that the title is a playful allusion to "The Copenhagen Interpretation."

Is that a correct assumption?
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seeds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:21 pm

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:49 am https://willybouwman.blogspot.com/2024/ ... ation.html

Excellent work, Will.

Thank you.

seeds wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 5:21 pmAt first, it took me a while to figure out what you meant by "The Ealing Interpretation."

Then it dawned on me that perhaps you live in the Ealing district in West London, and that the title is a playful allusion to "The Copenhagen Interpretation."

Is that a correct assumption?

It is.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:49 am Here's the latest version of something I've been working on for years. The beginning will be familiar to some of you, but the bulk is brand spanking new. It's my latest attempt to make big bang cosmology, field theory, quantum mechanics, chemistry, relativity and how motorbikes work accessible to those without a degree in physics - all in a cartoon book.

https://willybouwman.blogspot.com/2024/ ... ation.html

The sun is not enormous, and to say or claim that is, is just a False and very shallow or narrow perspective of things.

And, it is not at all hard to believe what you personally claim to believe. So, this is just another Falsehood of 'yours', which only persist in 'your stories' because you refuse to remove the very small and narrowed perspective of things, and instead just look at things from the Truly open perspective only.

When, and if, you do decide to remove and refrain from the very limited human being perspective, then, and only then, 'you' also, will be able to recognize and see what the actual Truth is, exactly.

Absolutely every thing is absolutely simple here. you, human beings, were just conflating and making complex what is fundamentally, and essentially, not, at all.

And, I was only a tiny way in your own personal interpretation of things here.

Once again 'I' will suggest to 'you' that you learn how to 'look at' and 'see' things properly, and Correctly, first, and then begin to write 'your story and/or interpretation'. That way you will not be so Wrong, so often. you will also stop 'trying to' spread Falsehoods, among the unsuspecting.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:39 pm

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pm nice presentation - dark endings are best...

Thank you.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pmquestion: when does light burn itself out?

Well, one answer is that it doesn't. As per Newton's first law of motion, photons carry on moving until some force stops them. Another take on it is that the expansion of the universe,

There is absolutely no proof at all that the Universe expands, yet this one believes, absolutely, that It does, and so just keeps claiming that the Universe, Itself, expands.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:39 pm which has stretched the photons from the first flash of light into microwaves, and the reason the James Webb telescope is focused on infrared, will eventually stretch all photons into radio waves of such a wavelength that for all practical purposes, they are flat and incapable of doing any meaningful work. That's yer heat death. Mind you, there are still advocates for 'tired light' and the truth, as ever, is that different explanations work equally well. Short answer - dunno.

Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 2:02 pmwe make engines that run on fuel... fuel is spent making the machine operate... eventually the fuel burns itself out

why doesn't light do that?

Well it's not definitely, absolutely 100% certain that it doesn't, but most mainstream physicists would be surprised if it did.

Does light diminish over distance, to you?

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2024 9:39 pm As in mythical? Pretty certain they are real. And I'm fairly confident elephants don't go there to die.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:17 amWhen, and if, you do decide to remove and refrain from the very limited human being perspective, then, and only then, 'you' also, will be able to recognize and see what the actual Truth is, exactly.

No thanks; I like my very limited human being perspective. It's much more interesting than the dreary "Truth" you peddle.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 1:58 pm

Age wrote: ↑Sat Oct 05, 2024 8:17 amWhen, and if, you do decide to remove and refrain from the very limited human being perspective, then, and only then, 'you' also, will be able to recognize and see what the actual Truth is, exactly.

No thanks; I like my very limited human being perspective. It's much more interesting than the dreary "Truth" you peddle.

This one here is a prime example of why adult human beings in the days when this was being written were so very, very slow to come see, understand, and know.

This one has such a small and limited view of things that it actually, literally, prefers to be and to remain absolutely CLOSED, and thus absolutely STUPID. And, an even worse thing is it wants to peddle its own personal Falsehoods and limited and closed beliefs onto the unsuspecting ones.

LOL it actually believes that its very limited and closed perspectives of things is more so-called interesting than the actual irrefutable Truth of things. Which shows and proves just how much more ones like this one had to come to learn, and understand.

And, what makes this one's comments and remarks here even more RIDICULOUS is that it has not even attempted to seek to find out what the actual irrefutable Truth is, exactly. it, literally, believes that what it thinks it 'currently' knows will be more interesting than what the actual Truth is.

What this one is doing and showing here it is proving, exactly, what those who believed their very limited and closed view that 'the sun revolves around the earth' were doing. That is; remaining absolutely CLOSED, and thus being absolutely STUPID. Which is the very, very last and opposite of what those with a love of 'science' would actually do. This one, like those others, has absolutely no interest at all in just wanting to find how and why some of its views here could be false and wrong, let alone seeking to find out why those ones are actually False and Wrong. Instead it just wants to keep believing that its views are absolutely true and right. Just like those who also had beliefs, like, for example, it is the sum that revolves around the earth did.

Even when this one is informed of just some of the parts of its claims are False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and/or Incorrect it, still, has absolutely no curiosity and no interest at all in this, it just much prefers to believe, absolutely, that what it 'currently' claims is absolutely true, right, accurate, and correct are those things. Which is EXACTLY like what those who were 'currently' claiming that the sun revolves around the earth. "will bouwman" like those people just have and hold a Truly 'religious' view and perspective, and thus why they could not view and see things Accurately, and Correctly.

LOL it does not even just want to find out

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am The universe is full of mystery

The Univers is not mysterious at all nor is It full of mystery. In fact the Universe, Itself, does not even have one mystery at all. But, obviously, there are some of you human beings who are not yet aware of some things. But, 'these things' are only a 'mystery' to 'these people', only. They are not an actual mystery.

There are no mysteries at all. The Universe is not hiding absolutely any thing from you human beings. Instead most of you human beings are, still, just evolving along in the process of learning how to 'look at' and 'see' things properly, and Correctly.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am and people are very creative when it comes to accounting for mysteries.

There are no actual mysteries, but there are some people who believe absolutely otherwise, and become creative in ways to express their beliefs and are very creative when it comes to trying to get others to believe the exact same things that they, "themselves", do.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Some people, in an attempt to account for consciousness, work on the assumption that the entire universe is conscious and that even photons have some sort of proto-consciousness.

And, some people, in an attempt to account for expansion, work on the assumption that the entire Universe is expanding and that there is even 'evidence' for this.

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:53 am Such people might take seriously the idea that photons make some sort of choice to enter a black hole when they know their time is up. I would be very surprised if that were the case, but it's not, in my view, the craziest idea out there.

Will you share here what some of the craziest ideas, out there, are, to you?

Will Bouwman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 04, 2024 1:46 pm Well, when the idea that a universe at least 90 billion light years in diameter was once smaller than an atom is a sensible idea, yer up against a pretty high bar.

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If absolutely any one thinks or believes that 'that' is a so-called 'sensible idea', then that one has, obviously, not 'considered', 'looked at', and/nor 'seen' things Correctly.