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Notice and observe how no ancient or present day religion or philosophy prioritised happiness, but peace and meaning and stillness.

So even when I got what I thought would make me happy, maybe for a brief spell, it would seem so, but that would always change. But peace within has a calming depth that I can enter into, and the depth keeps expanding.


'' He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All. and when he has reigned, he shall find rest. '' ~ The immortal words of Jesus. R. I. P.

Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:02 am Notice and observe how no ancient or present day religion or philosophy prioritised happiness, but peace and meaning and stillness.

So even when I got what I thought would make me happy, maybe for a brief spell, it would seem so, but that would always change. But peace within has a calming depth that I can enter into, and the depth keeps expanding.


'' He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All. and when he has reigned, he shall find rest. '' ~ The immortal words of Jesus. R. I. P.

And, it is they who 'seek', to change, for the better, who become Truly 'amazed', from 'what is uncovered', and when 'what is' is revealed, to 'All', then 'resting in peace', forever, has been 'reached', and 'achieved'.

This will become absolutely clear, and obvious, as 'we' proceed along here.

Age wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 10:11 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:02 am Notice and observe how no ancient or present day religion or philosophy prioritised happiness, but peace and meaning and stillness.

So even when I got what I thought would make me happy, maybe for a brief spell, it would seem so, but that would always change. But peace within has a calming depth that I can enter into, and the depth keeps expanding.


'' He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All. and when he has reigned, he shall find rest. '' ~ The immortal words of Jesus. R. I. P.

And, it is they who 'seek', to change, for the better, who become Truly 'amazed', from 'what is uncovered', and when 'what is' is revealed, to 'All', then 'resting in peace', forever, has been 'reached', and 'achieved'.

This will become absolutely clear, and obvious, as 'we' proceed along here.

Beautiful!

Peace is nothing without agitations.

"Nibbāna (Sanskrit: Nirvāṇa) entails the foundational extinction or 'blowing out' of the processes of unwholesome desire, aversion, and delusion. From the perspective of awakened experience, the latter deleterious processes are appreciated as 'agitations' of the mind. In comparative contrast to such agitation, sukha and its cognates are at places in the Pali Canon used to characterize the calm of Nibbāna, the 'Unconditioned,' as a bliss".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukha#As_a_characterization_of_awakening

Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:02 am

Or/and, one's philosophy is just another religion. Tweak that to a degree of literalness<------>metaphoricalness that makes one happy....ah, I mean, gives one peace and stillness. Each philosophy having an in the end a radical metaphysics: each metaphysics astounding and odd.

Self-Lightening wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:39 am Peace is nothing without agitations.

"Nibbāna (Sanskrit: Nirvāṇa) entails the foundational extinction or 'blowing out' of the processes of unwholesome desire, aversion, and delusion. From the perspective of awakened experience, the latter deleterious processes are appreciated as 'agitations' of the mind. In comparative contrast to such agitation, sukha and its cognates are at places in the Pali Canon used to characterize the calm of Nibbāna, the 'Unconditioned,' as a bliss".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukha#As_a_characterization_of_awakening

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:53 am

Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:02 am

Or/and, one's philosophy is just another religion. Tweak that to a degree of literalness<------>metaphoricalness that makes one happy....ah, I mean, gives one peace and stillness. Each philosophy having an in the end a radical metaphysics: each metaphysics astounding and odd.

Peace and stillness is the natural state of being, which is neither happy nor unhappy. Its never been unhappy so happiness is never beings goal. The natural state, is the ‘middleman’s” middle-less way of being.

Fairy wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 9:02 am Notice and observe how no ancient or present day religion or philosophy prioritised happiness, but peace and meaning and stillness.

So even when I got what I thought would make me happy, maybe for a brief spell, it would seem so, but that would always change. But peace within has a calming depth that I can enter into, and the depth keeps expanding.


'' He who seeks, let him not cease seeking until he finds; and when he finds he will be troubled, and when he is troubled he will be amazed, and he will reign over the All. and when he has reigned, he shall find rest. '' ~ The immortal words of Jesus. R. I. P.

What is meaning?

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:21 pm What is meaning?

An antidote to overwhelment of emotional despair, often due to lack of self love, sense of purpose and direction in life.

Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:15 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:21 pm What is meaning?

An antidote to overwhelment of emotional despair, often due to lack of self love, sense of purpose and direction in life.

Where can I find it? Have you ever experienced the meaning?

Self-Lightening wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:39 am Peace is nothing without agitations.

Experiencing agitations, and thus knowing agitations, never means that only peace only could ensue.

Parents can tell their children about how 'life' was, back in the olden days, thus children can know about agitations, but without those children ever having to experience agitations, first hand.

The same applies for and with abuse. Human beings have to know of and about abuse in order to live a life of knowing, but once abuse is fully understood and fully known, then this never means that peace alone could never ensue and exist.

So, peace without knowing of and about agitations and abuse may well be so-called 'nothing', but continuing abuse or agitations is not needed in a world of only peace.

Just like it could be said and argued that peace is nothing without wars but obviously wars are not needed, nor ever even actually, really, wanted.

Self-Lightening wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 9:39 am "Nibbāna (Sanskrit: Nirvāṇa) entails the foundational extinction or 'blowing out' of the processes of unwholesome desire, aversion, and delusion. From the perspective of awakened experience, the latter deleterious processes are appreciated as 'agitations' of the mind. In comparative contrast to such agitation, sukha and its cognates are at places in the Pali Canon used to characterize the calm of Nibbāna, the 'Unconditioned,' as a bliss".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukha#As_a_characterization_of_awakening

Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:56 pmParents can tell their children about how 'life' was, back in the olden days, thus children can know about agitations, but without those children ever having to experience agitations, first hand.

Dude, the far-right AfD party just won a German state election...

Self-Lightening wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 2:27 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 10:56 pmParents can tell their children about how 'life' was, back in the olden days, thus children can know about agitations, but without those children ever having to experience agitations, first hand.

Dude, the far-right AfD party just won a German state election...

Okay. I have absolutely no idea nor clue as to what any of this has to do with any of what I, actually, said, and what I, actually, meant here, but, again, okay.

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:54 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:15 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 12:21 pm What is meaning?

An antidote to overwhelment of emotional despair, often due to lack of self love, sense of purpose and direction in life.

Where can I find it? Have you ever experienced the meaning?

It’s within you.

Yes, I’ve experienced meaning, it’s what I have created.

Fairy wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 3:37 pm

bahman wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:54 pm

Fairy wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2024 6:15 pm


An antidote to overwhelment of emotional despair, often due to lack of self love, sense of purpose and direction in life.

Where can I find it? Have you ever experienced the meaning?

It’s within you.

Yes, I’ve experienced meaning, it’s what I have created.

Good for you!