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Hello, my name is Mauricio Edmundo Rojas Canales, I am a physicist and mathematician, I have been watching forums of interest in philosophy, and I have entered because I have some philosophical points that I would like to debate, I am a human being with natural and radical thinking, my ideas fundamentals are physics and mathematics, now the reason is simply that I have to occupy the time... I hope you can bear my harsh opinions... greetings

Hi there, MERC, I am intrigued......

Noticing no one has responded to you, I thought I would.

What I am intrigued about is this.:

1. You came here to "...debate...".

To debate can be interpreted as, your already having preconceived notions and you want to defend them.

You did not say you wanted to share thoughts and discuss matters, but wilfully argue. Which take me to point #2 below.

2. You said in your last line, that you hope we (the reader or debater to-be) can bear your "...harsh opinions...". What this tells me my friend, is that if you have hard opinions, you have something here to learn. Meaning, the stronger you think you are right about something, the less you likely are right. Screaming louder, does not make you anymore right. The tighter, tighter, tighter, you hold onto a notion, the more closed minded you are apt to be. It is like MERC my friend, that you are right and can never be wrong.

Anyway, I am not terribly surprised no one responded. When you come into a room screaming, it typcially does not bode well for the screamer.

Have a good day,

Mark

BuzzCap7 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:27 pm Hi there, MERC, I am intrigued......

Noticing no one has responded to you, I thought I would.

What I am intrigued about is this.:

1. You came here to "...debate...".

To debate can be interpreted as, your already having preconceived notions and you want to defend them.

You did not say you wanted to share thoughts and discuss matters, but wilfully argue. Which take me to point #2 below.

2. You said in your last line, that you hope we (the reader or debater to-be) can bear your "...harsh opinions...". What this tells me my friend, is that if you have hard opinions, you have something here to learn. Meaning, the stronger you think you are right about something, the less you likely are right. Screaming louder, does not make you anymore right. The tighter, tighter, tighter, you hold onto a notion, the more closed minded you are apt to be. It is like MERC my friend, that you are right and can never be wrong.

Anyway, I am not terribly surprised no one responded. When you come into a room screaming, it typcially does not bode well for the screamer.

Have a good day,

Mark

Perhaps he likes debating? What's it to you? And the reason people rarely respond to these 'Introduce yourself' threads is because they are often bots who never come back, speaking of which after looking at his posts I think he's no exception. His attempt at telling a joke looks decidedly bot-like
He's also at great pains in his introduction to let us know that he's a 'human being'. Hmmm.

protearius wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:31 am Hello, my name is Mauricio Edmundo Rojas Canales, I am a physicist and mathematician, I have been watching forums of interest in philosophy, and I have entered because I have some philosophical points that I would like to debate, I am a human being with natural and radical thinking, my ideas fundamentals are physics and mathematics, now the reason is simply that I have to occupy the time... I hope you can bear my harsh opinions... greetings

Welcome Maurcio, most of us love it when your types join the forum - so get stuck in!

I am am certainly a layman when it comes to physics but it has always been my favourite of the sciences. I don't read much by way of fiction, but I do love reading physics books aimed at my level. Mathematics is also an awesome field that now that I have free time I intend to refresh where I left off from college - I have forgotten so much of the principles - I did an electronics course when I was going through some rather weird stuff in my life and I wanted\needed something to occupy my mind. In the entry interview they suggested I skip the intro maths stuff and I said NO! I want to start from the ground up - you need to know the "algorithms"\rules to certain things and to be honest I emigrated to Oz many years earlier, at an important age for education 15 and was thrown into a maths class doing trig n that probablility stuff - permutations\combinations - sets - and I did not have a clue!
I would sit in class thinking I was stupid as I couldn't pick anything up (comprehend the stuff) and things were bad in my home life, so - since I came from UK and now I lived a walk from a beach - I spent more time there than in class (I should have got a tutor to teach me the grounding of that stuff - but I was daft). So on this electronics course I realised I needed to learn from the ground up, and I found the maths trig and re-arranging formulas very easy, and not to brag but in the final maths exam further into the course I only got one question wrong. Now I have again forgotten all those basic principles. There is an Asian teacher here in Oz I forget his name, but years ago he started a utube channel to teach da maths - he ended up getting some award at the Australian of the Year awards - I intend to search him out soon and start learning it all..well as much as my brain can cope with!

You'll find the forum is like the weather, sometimes lovely and interestig with some great topics, and other times just rubbish with cloudy people posting waffling drivel. Don't be afraid to start a thread that perhaps you feel passionate about - "radical thinking" is what I love to see - thinking outside of the box so do, bring it on

PS. ..please don't be a bot.

Do bots qualify as a 'vulnerable, protected group' like men in frocks and lippy are?

I'm not sure if these accounts are bots - but I don't understand what purpose they serve anyway as AI training bots..

1. They don't need to have an actual account to scour recursively through the contents of the forum.

2. They never seem to make use once they do have an account that can do posts - if they're wanting to test\train the interaction aspect (perhaps they are killed off by Ricks team, not sure).

Don't you find it odd that he describes himself as a 'human being'? Did you see his joke?
And yes, bots do join internet forums. Quora and social media a full of them, making reasonably human-like comments. They don't need a human to join them any more either.

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:41 am Don't you find it odd that he describes himself as a 'human being'? Did you see his joke?
And yes, bots do join internet forums. Quora and social media a full of them, making reasonably human-like comments. They don't need a human to join them any more either.

I can't say I noticed any joke. (actually, just saw the one in the joke thread - rather poor)

Ok, so let's say this is a bot. What is the human implementer gaining from this bot? It's done 3 posts -2 of which are rather daft - this OP being a slight exception.

Surely since the implementer has managed to get it operating as an active account it would start interacting much much more. There could only be two things I see that could be gained 1. to test and improve\adjust its chat capabilities 2. to eventually start sneaking in some form of promotion of whatever the implementer is in to - even if it's to advertise some product.

1. appears to be a fail since it's been around for two months and done basically nothing by way of interaction.
2. hasn't happened either, but that is not to say it's not in some future pipeline, but surely the implementer would have 1 -- - far more active in posts to 'integrate' prior to its alterior motive.

If it's a bot, it appears to be failing thus far..

protearius wrote: ↑Fri Jul 05, 2024 12:31 am Hello, my name is Mauricio Edmundo Rojas Canales, I am a physicist and mathematician, I have been watching forums of interest in philosophy, and I have entered because I have some philosophical points that I would like to debate, I am a human being with natural and radical thinking, my ideas fundamentals are physics and mathematics, now the reason is simply that I have to occupy the time... I hope you can bear my harsh opinions... greetings

Mauricio, why did you explicitly state you are a human being?

1. Do you enjoy sex?

2. Do you think baked beans should accompany fried eggs on a breakfast plate.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:52 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:41 am Don't you find it odd that he describes himself as a 'human being'? Did you see his joke?
And yes, bots do join internet forums. Quora and social media a full of them, making reasonably human-like comments. They don't need a human to join them any more either.

I can't say I noticed any joke. (actually, just saw the one in the joke thread - rather poor)

Ok, so let's say this is a bot. What is the human implementer gaining from this bot? It's done 3 posts -2 of which are rather daft - this OP being a slight exception.

Surely since the implementer has managed to get it operating as an active account it would start interacting much much more. There could only be two things I see that could be gained 1. to test and improve\adjust its chat capabilities 2. to eventually start sneaking in some form of promotion of whatever the implementer is in to - even if it's to advertise some product.

1. appears to be a fail since it's been around for two months and done basically nothing by way of interaction.
2. hasn't happened either, but that is not to say it's not in some future pipeline, but surely the implementer would have 1 -- - far more active in posts to 'integrate' prior to its alterior motive.

If it's a bot, it appears to be failing thus far..

I just said they no longer need a 'human implementer'.

BuzzCap7 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 31, 2024 6:27 pm Hi there, MERC, I am intrigued......

Noticing no one has responded to you, I thought I would.

What I am intrigued about is this.:

1. You came here to "...debate...".

To debate can be interpreted as, your already having preconceived notions and you want to defend them.

You did not say you wanted to share thoughts and discuss matters, but wilfully argue. Which take me to point #2 below.

2. You said in your last line, that you hope we (the reader or debater to-be) can bear your "...harsh opinions...". What this tells me my friend, is that if you have hard opinions, you have something here to learn. Meaning, the stronger you think you are right about something, the less you likely are right. Screaming louder, does not make you anymore right. The tighter, tighter, tighter, you hold onto a notion, the more closed minded you are apt to be. It is like MERC my friend, that you are right and can never be wrong.

Anyway, I am not terribly surprised no one responded. When you come into a room screaming, it typcially does not bode well for the screamer.

Have a good day,

Mark

I never heard that one 'raise its voice' anywhere above here.

I certainly would question the purpose of 'debating' some thing here. For, obviously, if what it wants to present has been proved, and thus is True, Right, Accurate, and/or Correct, then just present the proof for such. But, if it wants to just find someone with an opposing view or belief, and wants to 'argue', from one of the opposing definitions of 'that word', then enjoy doing so. But, I would like to remind the posters here that this is a 'philosophy forum' and not a 'debating forum'.

By the way just because someone thinks they are right about some thing, then this never absolutely means the less likely that they are to be right. Sure, there are many upon many of you adult human beings who think you are right, or who might come across as though they think they are right, who had been actually Right all along.

Presuming one is 'not right' because they appear to come across as thinking that they 'are right' can all to simply and easily lead you into a False conclusion, with you maybe never ever finding out if 'that one' was actually Right, or not.

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 5:18 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 4:52 am

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 2:41 am Don't you find it odd that he describes himself as a 'human being'? Did you see his joke?
And yes, bots do join internet forums. Quora and social media a full of them, making reasonably human-like comments. They don't need a human to join them any more either.

I can't say I noticed any joke. (actually, just saw the one in the joke thread - rather poor)

Ok, so let's say this is a bot. What is the human implementer gaining from this bot? It's done 3 posts -2 of which are rather daft - this OP being a slight exception.

Surely since the implementer has managed to get it operating as an active account it would start interacting much much more. There could only be two things I see that could be gained 1. to test and improve\adjust its chat capabilities 2. to eventually start sneaking in some form of promotion of whatever the implementer is in to - even if it's to advertise some product.

1. appears to be a fail since it's been around for two months and done basically nothing by way of interaction.
2. hasn't happened either, but that is not to say it's not in some future pipeline, but surely the implementer would have 1 -- - far more active in posts to 'integrate' prior to its alterior motive.

If it's a bot, it appears to be failing thus far..

I just said they no longer need a 'human implementer'.

..and I don't agree with that.

Age wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 5:24 am But, I would like to remind the posters here that this is a 'philosophy forum' and not a 'debating forum'.

A forum where philosophical ideas are presented are usually presented to be scrutinised and yes, debated upon.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 7:34 am

Age wrote: ↑Tue Sep 03, 2024 5:24 am But, I would like to remind the posters here that this is a 'philosophy forum' and not a 'debating forum'.

A forum where philosophical ideas are presented are usually presented to be scrutinised and yes, debated upon.

Scrutinize, question, and/or challenge another's ideas is perfectly normal and done in philosophical discussions. However picking "a side", and/or holding onto a belief or position, and fighting for that position, belief, or side, only, is the very opposite of what philosophical discussions actually are. Well to me anyway.

But, if you want to believe that your ideas or views are absolutely true, right, accurate, or correct, then by all means you can 'debate' them, with others, who are also 'believing' that their different or opposing ideas or views are also true, right, accurate, or correct. But obviously if you are both believing two opposing or contradictory views are correct, and you cannot just proved this, then what you both are believing may not have been correct, from the beginning.

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:42 pm
Perhaps he likes debating? What's it to you?

Perhaps.

What does it mean to me? LOL....it appears you missed the point. Or perhaps you like debating.

accelafine wrote: ↑Mon Sep 02, 2024 10:42 pm
And the reason people rarely respond to these 'Introduce yourself' threads is because they are often bots who never come back, speaking of which after looking at his posts I think he's no exception.

1. People rarely respond to intro's? So. That means nothing to me. Also, I am certainly not one who follows the cow in front of me.

2. Bots. accelafine, bot's are screened out the best the admin can do that. And if it not a bot?

3. Spring boarding off, "And if it is not a bot?" from question #2 above, if the post is not a bot, then they get a warm welcome from me. (I hope warm.) And maybe that poster will become a good participante here knowing there are people (or at least 1 person) here interested in them. And if we get even 1 quality addition for every say 10 newbee posts (bots getting through or not) that would be good for the forum.

Mark