PH: Linguistic & Reality
Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:42 am
PH, can you clarify the following;
From the above, there are two elements to reality, i.e.
1. reality as the-fact [the described]
2. the linguistic description of the fact [the descriptions],
As such, "reality as the-fact [the described]" aren't obliged to conform to our ways of talking [description of] about them
Agree?
1. reality as the-fact [the described]
2. the linguistic description of the fact [the descriptions],
if there is 1. reality as the-fact [the described], wouldn't it has an ultimate true nature? or some sort of realistic nature?
But in the above you stated,
"There is no ' ultimate true nature of things and reality' for philosophy to examine."
Can you explain the contradictory statements?
Often you define your 'what is fact' as "a feature of reality".Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:23 pm Outside language, reality is not linguistic - and features of reality aren't obliged to conform to our ways of talking about them. And I think that's one of the most profound consequences of Wittgenstein's profound insight - that meaning is use.
From the above, there are two elements to reality, i.e.
1. reality as the-fact [the described]
2. the linguistic description of the fact [the descriptions],
As such, "reality as the-fact [the described]" aren't obliged to conform to our ways of talking [description of] about them
Agree?
In the above, there are two elements to reality, i.e.Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:52 am My point is that so-called philosophical problems are linguistic in nature. So questions about reality, knowledge and truth - for example - are really about the ways we do or could use those words, their cognates and related words. There is no ' ultimate true nature of things and reality' for philosophy to examine. There's no noumenon - or perhaps you've forgotten that.
1. reality as the-fact [the described]
2. the linguistic description of the fact [the descriptions],
if there is 1. reality as the-fact [the described], wouldn't it has an ultimate true nature? or some sort of realistic nature?
But in the above you stated,
"There is no ' ultimate true nature of things and reality' for philosophy to examine."
Can you explain the contradictory statements?