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PH: Linguistic & Reality

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 8:42 am
by Veritas Aequitas
PH, can you clarify the following;
Peter Holmes wrote: Thu Oct 12, 2023 12:23 pm Outside language, reality is not linguistic - and features of reality aren't obliged to conform to our ways of talking about them. And I think that's one of the most profound consequences of Wittgenstein's profound insight - that meaning is use.
Often you define your 'what is fact' as "a feature of reality".
From the above, there are two elements to reality, i.e.
1. reality as the-fact [the described]
2. the linguistic description of the fact [the descriptions],

As such, "reality as the-fact [the described]" aren't obliged to conform to our ways of talking [description of] about them

Agree?
Peter Holmes wrote: Sat Jun 08, 2024 9:52 am My point is that so-called philosophical problems are linguistic in nature. So questions about reality, knowledge and truth - for example - are really about the ways we do or could use those words, their cognates and related words. There is no ' ultimate true nature of things and reality' for philosophy to examine. There's no noumenon - or perhaps you've forgotten that.
In the above, there are two elements to reality, i.e.
1. reality as the-fact [the described]
2. the linguistic description of the fact [the descriptions],

if there is 1. reality as the-fact [the described], wouldn't it has an ultimate true nature? or some sort of realistic nature?
But in the above you stated,
"There is no ' ultimate true nature of things and reality' for philosophy to examine."

Can you explain the contradictory statements?

Re: PH: Linguistic & Reality

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2024 9:27 am
by Veritas Aequitas
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