Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Tue Jul 02, 2024 8:20 am
Elsewhere, the stupidity of VA's FSERC moral theory is laid bare, as follows.
'Within a human-based morality-proper framework and system [FSERC] the moral standard and maxim is,
Abortion is Not Permissible, Period!
However, this is merely a moral standard to be used as a guide for moral progress and with anything morality, moral maxims are not to be enforceable on any individual[s].'
Here's another assertion.
Within a human-based morality-proper framework and system [FSERC] the moral standard and maxim is,
Abortion is Permissible, Period!
Point is, VA has absolutely nothing to justify the 'objectivity' of the first claim, and deny the 'objectivity' of the second claim. It's brute subjective fiat. Grotesque!
When you jump to condemn another's idea as stupid without detail argument, you are merely exposing your own stupidity.
As I had argued elsewhere, there is an inherent objective moral fact within ALL humans, i.e. the 'oughtnot-ness to kill humans'.
This objective moral facts is not an independent free floating "fact" but it is a fact that is contingent within a human-based moral framework and system; it exists only physically within a living human.
From the human-based moral framework and system and the above main 'oughtnot-ness to kill humans' we derive the moral maxim and standard,
Abortion is Not Permissible, Period!
If the above is not a categorical imperative, moral maxim, standard and universal, it implies the moral framework and system open up the possibility for the
extermination of the human species in theory.
In constructing an effective moral framework and system, we should not construct one that is shoddy and has holes in it.
As such the quality of an effective moral framework and system must be idiot-proof and fool-proof.
The above moral maxim and standard are merely guides in practice and thus not enforceable on individual[s].
As in the past and at present psychological states of all humans, it is obvious, the above moral maxim and standard aiming at ZERO abortion will not be met by the majority where abortion will be necessary for various reasons [frivolous and rational].
If an effective moral framework and system is established based on the objective moral fact of ZERO abortion, the present state could be:
1. Target: Zero Abortion per year within the world
2. Actual: say, 50 million abortions done in 2024 within the world.
Now, if there are no knowledge of the moral fact re abortion and expectations, humanity will be indifferent to the number of abortions per year which could rise each year.
But if there is an established moral framework and system that is effective, then humanity will strive with extra effort to research into the root causes of abortion and nip the problem at the bud or roots instead of complaining and whining about it.
So what is the root cause of abortions?
https://www.verywellhealth.com/reasons- ... ion-906589
From the above, it would appear most of the abortions are due to unplanned births.
Why there are unplanned births?
This is due to
uncontrollable sexual lusts from both genders.
If uncontrollable sexual lusts from both parties is the root cause, rationally humanity must find ways to enable the majority of humans to modulate their uncontrollable sexual lusts so that they do not end up with unplanned births.
I believe this is possible but we must first recognize the facts [FSERC] and problem.
Besides uncontrollable sexual lusts, humanity must identify the root causes and take steps to control those cause that are controllable.
From my above argument, surely my proposal;
Within a human-based morality-proper framework and system [FSERC] the moral standard and maxim is, Abortion is Permissible, Period!
is rational whilst not practical as present, it is very feasible in the near future based on the trend of the exponential expansion of knowledge and technology we are riding on at present.
As such, if an effective moral framework and system is established, the future scenario could be
1. Target: Zero Abortion per year within the world
2. Actual abortions done within the world per year,
2024: 50 million
2030: 25 million
2050: 10 million
2060: 5 million
2075: 500,000
2100: 1000 due to medical and other critical reasons.
