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Hypocrisy

Anyone here remember the 'me too' movement? Where women were being 'empowered' to speak out about male oppression and abuses of power? That movement? Now those very same wokists, who almost instantaneously got bored with it (they are very 'deep' ), are calling women 'bigots' and 'transphobes' for not wanting men in women-only prisons, sports, changing rooms, sorority houses, dating apps, hospital wards, toilets etc. etc.

'' 'You need to be re-educated': That's how a group of NHS nurses say hospital chiefs reacted when they complained that a 'transgender' colleague - who shared their women's changing room - stared as they got undressed. It was, the nurses say, an ‘offensive’ response to their legitimate complaints that their colleague’s presence was ‘degrading and humiliating’. They also told the HR department that the 26-year-old stared at their breasts when they were getting undressed and lingered ‘longer than necessary’ in the changing room. The nurses say their colleague – who is understood not to have had gender reassignment surgery – had told fellow workers at Darlington Memorial Hospital he had stopped taking cross-sex hormones because he was trying to get his girlfriend pregnant and therefore is ‘a sexually active biological male’.

Now, after being dissatisfied with the response from bosses, eight of the nurses are launching an unprecedented employment tribunal against the NHS Trust that employs them, claiming harassment, indirect discrimination, victimisation and human rights violations.''

So much for 'empowered women speaking out'. The same shallow morons who waxed lyrical about 'female empowerment' are the ones intimidating and threatening women into silence today.


A bit further back and you have Mel Gibson, out of his mind on alcohol, saying insulting things about Jewish people. The frenzied pearl-clutching, shrieking and gnashing of teeth from wokedom was deafening. He was shunned by woke Hollywood. Move forward a decade or so and he's back in Hollywood's 'good books' and the same wokists are openly calling for the death of Jews and enthusiastically supporting their rape and torture (especially of Jewish children).
Gosh, for such a small group that supposedly 'controls the world' Jews certainly have a lot of shit thrown at them.

Talking of hypocrisy, veggie, you’ll march with Christian bigots when it suits you, I see!

Who are you talking to? What 'march' are you referring to? Are you suggesting that if a 'christian bigot' says that a man isn't a woman then everyone else should automatically say that a man is a woman? If a 'christian bigot' says that 2+2=4 then everyone else must say that 2+2=5 because to say otherwise makes you also a 'christian bigot'? Sorry buddy, I go with facts and science-- not partisan American bs politics.
Are you suggesting that women have no right to stand up for their rights? Are you saying that because some christian nuisances have got on the bandwagon then we should just stop? I don't want them there. In fact they aren't welcome because they have their own disingenuous agenda that has nothing to do with women's rights. Most of them are misogynistic pr**ks.

Do you dispute any of the actual events in the OP?

All you ever do is make snarky little one sentence insults (that never have anything to do with anything and nearly always with an exclamation mark at the end) and act as if you've won some kind of 'victory', then slither back under your rock until the next time.

According to 'mick'thinks' ', women are 'bigots' for not wanting men: ogling them in their changing rooms, hijacking their sports, preventing them from even using the word 'woman' in case it 'offends' the mythical 'transpeople'. 'Cervix-havers', 'uterus-owners', 'pregnant people' are just some of the abominations (and not even necessarily accurate ones) that wokedom has come up with, tying itself into knots to avoid using such a 'vile and offensive word' (doesn't come more misogynistic than that). 'Woman' has become a taboo word. 'Strangely' the same can't be said for 'man'. I've yet to see them referred to as 'penis havers', or 'prostate-owners'. Gosh. I wonder why 'that' would be?

The brilliant Kathleen Stock:

https://scholarship.law.duke.edu/cgi/vi ... ontext=lcp

accelafine wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:00 am Hypocrisy

Anyone here remember the 'me too' movement? Where women were being 'empowered' to speak out about male oppression and abuses of power? That movement? Now those very same wokists, who almost instantaneously got bored with it (they are very 'deep' ), are calling women 'bigots' and 'transphobes' for not wanting men in women-only prisons, sports, changing rooms, sorority houses, dating apps, hospital wards, toilets etc. etc.

You can count on this.

After his ascention to power, the first people Mao killed were the Red Guards whose radical fury had gotten him there. He could no longer risk having them around, since they had already demonstrated their ability to overthrow an existing order. So he declared them "too radical," and had them all murdered. They had become, Mao said, the wrong kind of Marxism. They now had to go.

This is how Marxism always operates. It rides one set of radicals to power, then it destroys them, so that it can maintain power; or else it sells them out to the next "great leap forward," which is what today's Neo-Marxist are now doing to Feminists.

Once, Feminism was powerful and useful to destroying the existing system, the putative "Patriarchy": but now that Feminism has become part of the establishment, it has to be ousted for something more radical, more capable of producing the next revolution. Right now, that's Queer Theory and Trans-ism. The Neo-Marxists have done with women; and now they're going to throw them away...unless they, too, join the ranks of the sexually-confused and pursue Marxist revolution through it's next step.

It's what they do. It's all they know. They're great at revolution, but afterward, horrible at securing the interests of anybody who helps them get there. The Wokies who are leading their movement today will be first on the barbeque when the next phase of the revolution appears.

Immanuel Can wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 7:45 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Sun Jun 23, 2024 2:00 am Hypocrisy

Anyone here remember the 'me too' movement? Where women were being 'empowered' to speak out about male oppression and abuses of power? That movement? Now those very same wokists, who almost instantaneously got bored with it (they are very 'deep' ), are calling women 'bigots' and 'transphobes' for not wanting men in women-only prisons, sports, changing rooms, sorority houses, dating apps, hospital wards, toilets etc. etc.

You can count on this.

After his ascention to power, the first people Mao killed were the Red Guards whose radical fury had gotten him there. He could no longer risk having them around, since they had already demonstrated their ability to overthrow an existing order. So he declared them "too radical," and had them all murdered. They had become, Mao said, the wrong kind of Marxism. They now had to go.

This is how Marxism always operates. It rides one set of radicals to power, then it destroys them, so that it can maintain power; or else it sells them out to the next "great leap forward," which is what today's Neo-Marxist are now doing to Feminists.

Once, Feminism was powerful and useful to destroying the existing system, the putative "Patriarchy": but now that Feminism has become part of the establishment, it has to be ousted for something more radical, more capable of producing the next revolution. Right now, that's Queer Theory and Trans-ism. The Neo-Marxists have done with women; and now they're going to throw them away...unless they, too, join the ranks of the sexually-confused and pursue Marxist revolution through it's next step.

It's what they do. It's all they know. They're great at revolution, but afterward, horrible at securing the interests of anybody who helps them get there. The Wokies who are leading their movement today will be first on the barbeque when the next phase of the revolution appears.

Why don't you go and lie down for a bit, IC, before you start hearing the voices.

Both examples I mentioned that we have to contend with have shown up. Perfect.

The wokist who flickers into existence just long enough to say 'you are a bigot' and then flickers out again, and the christian with the 'reds under the beds' political agenda. The main thing they have in common is that neither gives a toss about women's rights.

The big difference, however, is that IC can effortlessly come up with sound arguments in this when he chooses to. He also needs to stop using words he doesn't understand the meaning of. Transhandmaidens are NOT feminists. They are the exact OPPOSITE of feminists despite their blue hair and claims to the contrary (blue hair makes one so 'edgy' and 'warrior-like' ).
The reason of course is that IC has facts and science on his side. A kindergarten child could come up with a better argument than 'you are a bigot'. Not a single wokist on the face of the earth has come up with a sound argument in support of transcultism and the erasure of women and everything else that goes along with the 'wrong gender' garbage they preach.


Helen Joyce shooting fish in a barrel here. The 'fish' are paedophile apologist Peter Tatchell and bollocks-displaying 'Freda' Wallace who posts pornography on his X page filmed in his dungeon and sends unsolicited explicit material to a severely disabled woman who campaigns for same-sex care.
Wallace drinks his way through the 'debate' to the point where Tatchell begs him to stop. Unintentionally hilarious


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Va3i-_Fbfpo

Astonishingly the 'reds under the beds' rhetoric has turned out to have more than an element of truth in it, although not in the way that anyone saw coming. I wouldn't have believed it until I heard it from their own mouths. Wokist elites referring to themselves as 'Marxists' (Marx would be none too pleased about that) and saying their aim is to bring down 'capitalist Western imperialism' and replace it with what they call 'communism' (undefined apart from the usual generic word salads).

This of course explains why you find that the 'free plasticiners' and 'transrighters' are one and the same people. Both completely irrational 'causes' and both of which stand a good chance of toppling 'Western' civilisation if they get their way.