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During the 1930s and 1940s, a unique and lasting political alliance was forged among Third Reich leaders, Arab nationalists, and Muslim religious authorities. From this relationship sprang a series of dramatic events that, despite their profound impact on the course of World War II and Middle Eastern history, has remained largely secret until now.

Like the the full scope of Palestinian leader Amin al-Husaini’s support of Hitler’s genocidal plans against European and Middle Eastern Jews. Or the extent of Germany’s long-term promotion of Islamism and jihad.

We need to explore and expose the intertwined development of Nazism and Islamism and its impact on the modern Middle East.

Haj Amin al-Husseini is the man who, during World War II, was called "the fuhrer of the Arab world", whose ugly, violent legacy lives on today.

He was the religious head of the Palestinian Muslims for 16 years, their political leader for 30 years, and, for a time, he was the most important representative of the Arab world.

Husseini spent time in Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945, with some 60 staff and a secret service of his own, in Berlin as a guest and at the expense of the Third Reich. Al-Husaini cooperated eagerly with the Nazis to prevent Jews emigrating from Europe to Palestine. Aware of what was happening, he wanted to see the Jews destroyed. He also expected a high position for himself in the Arab world after the Nazis had won World War II.

After the war, he continued to act in precisely the same manner. His greed for wealth, hunger for power, despotism, ruthlessness, and intransigence were all factors that brought disaster upon his people and have, unfortunately, set a standard that remains valid in Palestinian politics today.

Haj Amin al-Husseini, the founder of Palestinian nationalism, is notorious for his efforts to persuade the Nazis to extend their genocide of the Jews to the Palestine Mandate. The Mufti met Hitler and Himmler in Berlin in 1941 and asked the Nazis to guarantee that when the Wehrmacht drove the British from Palestine, Germany would establish an Arab regime and assist in the “removal” of its Jews. Hitler replied that the Reich would not intervene in the Mufti’s kingdom, other than to pursue their shared goal: “the annihilation of Jewry living in Arab space.” The Mufti settled in Berlin, befriended Adolf Eichmann, and lobbied the governments of Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria to cancel a plan to transfer Jews to Palestine. Subsequently, some 400,000 Jews from these countries were sent to death camps.

al-Husseini ingratiated himself with his hero, Adolf Hitler, becoming, with his blond hair and blue eyes, an "honorary Aryan" while dreaming of being installed as Nazi leader of the Middle East. Al-Husseini would later recruit more than 100,000 Muslims in Europe to fight in divisions of the Waffen-SS, and obstruct negotiations with the Allies that might have allowed four thousand Jewish children to escape to Palestine. Some believe that al-Husseini even inspired Hitler to implement the Final Solution. At war's end, al-Husseini escaped indictment at Nuremberg and was harbored in France.

al-Husseini's postwar relationships include influential Islamic figures as the radical Sayyid Qutib and Saddam Hussein's powerful uncle General Khairallah Talfah and his crucial mentoring of the young Yasser Arafat.

al-Husseini's actions and writings serve as inspirations today to the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations pledged to destroy Israel and the United States.

As David Motadel writes in "Islam and Nazi Germany's War," Muslims fought on both sides in World War II. But only Nazis and Islamists had a political-spiritual romance.

Both groups hated Jews, Bolsheviks and liberal democracy.

Both sought what Michel Foucault, praising the Iranian Revolution in 1979, would later call the spiritual-political "transfiguration of the world" by "combat."

The caliph, Islamic Zaki Ali explained, was the "fuehrer of the believers." "Made by Jews, led by Jews - therewith Bolshevism is the natural enemy of Islam," wrote Mahomed Sabry, a Berlin-based propagandist for the Muslim Brotherhood in "Islam, Judaism, Bolshevism," a book that the Reich's propaganda ministry recommended to journalists.

Today, this Muslim-Nazi propaganda is spread by people claiming to be Christians, as well as other misguided, indoctrinated, typically leftist individuals, in their own hatred and slander of Jews, and support for Muslim terror groups like Hamas.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 am Hitler, Palestine and Muslim Nazis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuFHYMmvaTw

During the 1930s and 1940s, a unique and lasting political alliance was forged among Third Reich leaders, Arab nationalists, and Muslim religious authorities. From this relationship sprang a series of dramatic events that, despite their profound impact on the course of World War II and Middle Eastern history, has remained largely secret until now.

Like the the full scope of Palestinian leader Amin al-Husaini’s support of Hitler’s genocidal plans against European and Middle Eastern Jews. Or the extent of Germany’s long-term promotion of Islamism and jihad.

We need to explore and expose the intertwined development of Nazism and Islamism and its impact on the modern Middle East.

Haj Amin al-Husseini is the man who, during World War II, was called "the fuhrer of the Arab world", whose ugly, violent legacy lives on today.

He was the religious head of the Palestinian Muslims for 16 years, their political leader for 30 years, and, for a time, he was the most important representative of the Arab world.

Husseini spent time in Nazi Germany from 1941 to 1945, with some 60 staff and a secret service of his own, in Berlin as a guest and at the expense of the Third Reich. Al-Husaini cooperated eagerly with the Nazis to prevent Jews emigrating from Europe to Palestine. Aware of what was happening, he wanted to see the Jews destroyed. He also expected a high position for himself in the Arab world after the Nazis had won World War II.

After the war, he continued to act in precisely the same manner. His greed for wealth, hunger for power, despotism, ruthlessness, and intransigence were all factors that brought disaster upon his people and have, unfortunately, set a standard that remains valid in Palestinian politics today.

Haj Amin al-Husseini, the founder of Palestinian nationalism, is notorious for his efforts to persuade the Nazis to extend their genocide of the Jews to the Palestine Mandate. The Mufti met Hitler and Himmler in Berlin in 1941 and asked the Nazis to guarantee that when the Wehrmacht drove the British from Palestine, Germany would establish an Arab regime and assist in the “removal” of its Jews. Hitler replied that the Reich would not intervene in the Mufti’s kingdom, other than to pursue their shared goal: “the annihilation of Jewry living in Arab space.” The Mufti settled in Berlin, befriended Adolf Eichmann, and lobbied the governments of Romania, Hungary and Bulgaria to cancel a plan to transfer Jews to Palestine. Subsequently, some 400,000 Jews from these countries were sent to death camps.

al-Husseini ingratiated himself with his hero, Adolf Hitler, becoming, with his blond hair and blue eyes, an "honorary Aryan" while dreaming of being installed as Nazi leader of the Middle East. Al-Husseini would later recruit more than 100,000 Muslims in Europe to fight in divisions of the Waffen-SS, and obstruct negotiations with the Allies that might have allowed four thousand Jewish children to escape to Palestine. Some believe that al-Husseini even inspired Hitler to implement the Final Solution. At war's end, al-Husseini escaped indictment at Nuremberg and was harbored in France.

al-Husseini's postwar relationships include influential Islamic figures as the radical Sayyid Qutib and Saddam Hussein's powerful uncle General Khairallah Talfah and his crucial mentoring of the young Yasser Arafat.

al-Husseini's actions and writings serve as inspirations today to the leaders of Hamas, Hezbollah, and other terrorist organizations pledged to destroy Israel and the United States.

As David Motadel writes in "Islam and Nazi Germany's War," Muslims fought on both sides in World War II. But only Nazis and Islamists had a political-spiritual romance.

Both groups hated Jews, Bolsheviks and liberal democracy.

Both sought what Michel Foucault, praising the Iranian Revolution in 1979, would later call the spiritual-political "transfiguration of the world" by "combat."

The caliph, Islamic Zaki Ali explained, was the "fuehrer of the believers." "Made by Jews, led by Jews - therewith Bolshevism is the natural enemy of Islam," wrote Mahomed Sabry, a Berlin-based propagandist for the Muslim Brotherhood in "Islam, Judaism, Bolshevism," a book that the Reich's propaganda ministry recommended to journalists.

Today, this Muslim-Nazi propaganda is spread by people claiming to be Christians, as well as other misguided, indoctrinated, typically leftist individuals, in their own hatred and slander of Jews, and support for Muslim terror groups like Hamas.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 am Hitler, Palestine and Muslim Nazis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuFHYMmvaTw

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:04 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 am Hitler, Palestine and Muslim Nazis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuFHYMmvaTw

The guy who made that video is not a historian and his views are controversial. He's also anti-vax, doesn't believe in climate change, thinks there was election fraud against Trump, a believer in the deep state and so on. For those who agree those are spot on, one may see little reason to doubt his assertions. For those who don't share those conspiracy theories, they might consider the range of criticism aimed at his ideas.

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:13 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:04 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:22 am Hitler, Palestine and Muslim Nazis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuFHYMmvaTw

The guy who made that video is not a historian and his views are controversial. He's also anti-vax, doesn't believe in climate change, thinks there was election fraud against Trump, a believer in the deep state and so on. For those who agree those are spot on, one may see little reason to doubt his assertions. For those who don't share those conspiracy theories, they might consider the range of criticism aimed at his ideas.

For fuck sake. There's mountains of historical evidence for the connection. Find someone you 'approve' of then, or better still, do your own research.

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 9:37 pm

accelafine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 5:13 pm

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:04 pm
The guy who made that video is not a historian and his views are controversial. He's also anti-vax, doesn't believe in climate change, thinks there was election fraud against Trump, a believer in the deep state and so on. For those who agree those are spot on, one may see little reason to doubt his assertions. For those who don't share those conspiracy theories, they might consider the range of criticism aimed at his ideas.

For fuck sake. There's mountains of historical evidence for the connection. Find someone you 'approve' of then, or better still, do your own research.

'The connection' is a vague phrase. Yes, there are connections, but that person's/those people's version is not accurate. These things aren't binary, even if you are. It's not generally accepted or even a significant minority position among historians. I know you'd consider it trivia...you know accuracy being trivial..because as long as something is attacking what you've got bile for, you think it is truth period.

And, look, maybe there's someone here who thinks you actually do research, but I doubt it. Even the people who share your positions and who like having a pit bull who never contributes any philosophy around, they know you're not a thinker or someone who does research. But run that line on someone else. Me, I just find it funny and wonder if you could be so clueless about yourself.

Relations between Nazi Germany (1933–1945) and the Arab world ranged from indifference, resistance, collaboration and emulation.[1][2][3][4][5]
Nazi Germany used collaborators throughout the Arab world to support their political goals. The cooperative political and military relationships were based on shared hostilities towards common enemies, such as the United Kingdom,[4][5] the French Third Republic,[2][4] along with communism, and Zionism.[2][4][5]

Another foundation of such collaborations was the antisemitism of the Nazis and their hostility towards the United Kingdom and France, which was admired by some Arab and Muslim leaders, most notably the exiled Palestinian leader, Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relations ... Arab_world