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Time to get rational about Islam in Britain.

Shock poll exposing British Muslims - '32% want Sharia law'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-3YP8jJr5E

Yes well, even those who were victims of political correctness now realize I think that Muslims do not have any intention of adapting to their chosen new environment. They believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them. The Western world is just realizing that these people are invaders and are engrossed in the ideology of a religion more appropriate to the seventh century. People in the past coming from other non-Muslim countries always understood that they were to adapt to the country that adopted them, this is an entirely different ballgame. They wish to trash your values and usurp the sovereignty of your country without firing a shot. The West is awakening, chaos is to follow, I do not think it is going to be pretty.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am Yes well, even those who were victims of political correctness now realize I think that Muslims do not have any intention of adapting to their chosen new environment.

Exactly like "british christians" who went to new environments with the intention of indoctrinating the peoples in those countries to "british christian" laws and beliefs with also no intention of adapting to their chosen new environment at all.

Why is it okay when "british christians" do it, but it is not okay when 'others' do it in "christian britian"?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am They believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them.

"british christians" believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them. And, with no regard to the new environment, nor its peoples, at all, either.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am The Western world is just realizing that these people are invaders and are engrossed in the ideology of a religion more appropriate to the seventh century.

And, what century is "british christianity" and that religion appropriate to, exactly?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am People in the past coming from other non-Muslim countries always understood that they were to adapt to the country that adopted them, this is an entirely different ballgame.

How far 'in the past' are you talking about and referring to here, exactly?

Also, I might agree that people coming from other countries understood that they were to adapt to the country that, so-called, 'adopted' them, but in the past when "british christians" went to other countries it was always understood that the people in those countries had to adapt to "british christian" ideology and religion, and that those peoples had no choice in the matter. Also, no country adopted "british christians". "british christians" took countries.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am They wish to trash your values and usurp the sovereignty of your country without firing a shot. The West is awakening, chaos is to follow, I do not think it is going to be pretty.

Okay.

And, has "british christians" and then "american christians" trashed the values and usurped the sovereigns of any other countries, with or without firing a shot?

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:09 am

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am Yes well, even those who were victims of political correctness now realize I think that Muslims do not have any intention of adapting to their chosen new environment.

Exactly like "british christians" who went to new environments with the intention of indoctrinating the peoples in those countries to "british christian" laws and beliefs with also no intention of adapting to their chosen new environment at all.

Why is it okay when "british christians" do it, but it is not okay when 'others' do it in "christian britian"?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am They believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them.

"british christians" believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them. And, with no regard to the new environment, nor its peoples, at all, either.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am The Western world is just realizing that these people are invaders and are engrossed in the ideology of a religion more appropriate to the seventh century.

And, what century is "british christianity" and that religion appropriate to, exactly?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am People in the past coming from other non-Muslim countries always understood that they were to adapt to the country that adopted them, this is an entirely different ballgame.

How far 'in the past' are you talking about and referring to here, exactly?

Also, I might agree that people coming from other countries understood that they were to adapt to the country that, so-called, 'adopted' them, but in the past when "british christians" went to other countries it was always understood that the people in those countries had to adapt to "british christian" ideology and religion, and that those peoples had no choice in the matter. Also, no country adopted "british christians". "british christians" took countries.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am They wish to trash your values and usurp the sovereignty of your country without firing a shot. The West is awakening, chaos is to follow, I do not think it is going to be pretty.

Okay.

And, has "british christians" and then "american christians" trashed the values and usurped the sovereigns of any other countries, with or without firing a shot?

It is called colonial invasion and it is extremely arrogant. Yes, other countries in the past invaded and colonized peoples across the world by force of arms. Muslims have been doing it by taking advantage of the sick trend of political correctness. Immigrants in the past did not behave this way, they expected to adapt to the country that took them in. The West is awakening to the intentions of the Muslim world and it going to get very very ugly.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:32 am

Age wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:09 am

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am Yes well, even those who were victims of political correctness now realize I think that Muslims do not have any intention of adapting to their chosen new environment.

Exactly like "british christians" who went to new environments with the intention of indoctrinating the peoples in those countries to "british christian" laws and beliefs with also no intention of adapting to their chosen new environment at all.

Why is it okay when "british christians" do it, but it is not okay when 'others' do it in "christian britian"?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am They believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them.

"british christians" believe that the new environment should and must adapt to them. And, with no regard to the new environment, nor its peoples, at all, either.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am The Western world is just realizing that these people are invaders and are engrossed in the ideology of a religion more appropriate to the seventh century.

And, what century is "british christianity" and that religion appropriate to, exactly?

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am People in the past coming from other non-Muslim countries always understood that they were to adapt to the country that adopted them, this is an entirely different ballgame.

How far 'in the past' are you talking about and referring to here, exactly?

Also, I might agree that people coming from other countries understood that they were to adapt to the country that, so-called, 'adopted' them, but in the past when "british christians" went to other countries it was always understood that the people in those countries had to adapt to "british christian" ideology and religion, and that those peoples had no choice in the matter. Also, no country adopted "british christians". "british christians" took countries.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 7:48 am They wish to trash your values and usurp the sovereignty of your country without firing a shot. The West is awakening, chaos is to follow, I do not think it is going to be pretty.

Okay.

And, has "british christians" and then "american christians" trashed the values and usurped the sovereigns of any other countries, with or without firing a shot?

It is called colonial invasion and it is extremely arrogant.

Yes, "british christianity" invasion of countries is extremely arrogant.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:32 am Yes, other countries in the past invaded and colonized peoples across the world by force of arms.

Yes, so-called "western societies" have invaded and colonized peoples across the word by force. Yet, here the people of those same "western societies" whinging and complaining that people from other countries want to live in those "western societies" and keep some of their culture and customs. The hypocrisy here is absolutely crystal clear. Yet there are some, here, who cannot see this at all.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:32 am Muslims have been doing it by taking advantage of the sick trend of political correctness.

Well it is the people of those societies who vote in people who make rules up, for them.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:32 am Immigrants in the past did not behave this way,

What way?

And, the "british christian invaders" 'behaved much, much worse.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:32 am they expected to adapt to the country that took them in.

What are you on about?

What does, 'immigrants in the past did not behave this way, they expected to adapt to the country that took them in', even mean?

What actually happened and occurred is "british christians" invaded countries, destroyed and obliterated the peoples and the environment of those countries while they 'colonized' them, and then, and only then, the so-called 'immigrants', usually from the same "western places", expected to adapt to the 'new country', which had already been raped and pillaged, and 'the country' that 'took them in' is far more like where the original invaders and colonizers came from, and thus more like the 'new immigrants', than it is anything like the country' and 'culture' that used to be there.

It is like 'these people' here are so short and/or narrow sighted, or just completely closed, that they do not even recognize, know, and see the actual Truth of things.

popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sat Jun 22, 2024 8:32 am The West is awakening to the intentions of the Muslim world and it going to get very very ugly.

1. What are the, supposed, 'intentions' of the so-called "muslim world", that some so-called "west" is awakening to, exactly? Let 'us' 'see' if 'you' are part to "the west" that is, supposedly, 'awakening', or not.

2. And, when you say, 'it is going to get very ugly', what does the 'it' word refer to, exactly?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Tue May 28, 2024 12:43 pm Time to get rational about Islam in Britain.

Shock poll exposing British Muslims - '32% want Sharia law'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-3YP8jJr5E

The right-wing pseudo-nationalists are always quick at misrepresenting what Muslims truly want. Maybe they do not understand it? Maybe they just pretend that they don't?

In 1772, the British East India Company trivially understood exactly what it was about:

East India Company

The Regulation 11 of .1772 by Sec. 27 enacted that

"in all suits regarding inheritance, succession, marriage and caste and other religious usages or institutions, the laws of the Quran with respect of Mohamedan and those of the Shastras with respect to Gentoos (Hindus) shall be invariably adhered to."

This arrangement was confirmed by the British Raj later on in 1937:

The British Raj passed Shariat Act in 1937 is followed in India in matters related to marriage, divorce and succession among Muslims.

The East India Company and the governor-general of the British Raj understood clearly that neither the government nor the houses of parliament shall regulate what God has already regulated.

It is simply unsustainable practice to impose the rules of one religion -- or even of atheism -- onto the followers of another religion. Neither government nor the houses of parliament have such authority.

There are many historical precedents to this principle. When Protestantism started spreading in the 16th century in Europe, it eventually resulted in the Protestants being subject to their own regulations different from the Catholic ones. The Catholics tried to keep imposing their rules onto the Protestants, but they eventually failed. That is historically always how it turns out.