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an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:14 pm
by Peter Kropotkin
are the days long or short?
yes...
when young, the days are long
and when old, the days are short...
and this is a truism of life...

that what we experience comes from where we stand...
when I was young, life was different..
and when, as now, I am old, life is different still...
and that is what I call a situational life...
and is similar to situational ethics...
where the situation dictates the ethics..
where the life situation dictates how we experience life...

and today, I experience life as an old man....
which means I move slowly and take my time,
unlike my youth, where I ran around like a crazy person....
I was trying to experience everything, as a young person does...
the search was for something new, something that engaged me....
I was trying to experience everything, all at once...

today, I don't experience experience's like I once did...
my world, my world is shrinking.. to what is familiar
and known...for that is what old people do...
today, I was looking at the new releases coming out in music,
and I didn't recognize a single name...even in my favorite areas,
classical and Jazz... I am aware of who Billie Eilish is, but
couldn't name a song of hers to save my life...
same as Beyonce, couldn't name a song of hers...

what I have left to experience is old age and then death...
and not much else left to experience... and what does
any of this mean to you? not a thing.. nothing at all.....

and so, I impart no wisdom.. give no choices, offer up no solutions...
and this is philosophy... of an old man... which means that it is
situational philosophy... the situation dictates the philosophy...

Kropotkin

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:44 am
by promethean75
I'm right behind u, old timer. I can feel my passion for life slipping away more and more every year. Drove by the court house the other day and didn't even look for a place in front to park a van full of explosives. I don't smoke marijuana anymore. Haven't thought about murdering my wretched mother in like seven months. I no longer check the obituaries to see if my old man is dead yet. Don't care about leading the revolution. Haven't stolen anything in years. I see a capitalist or a christian at a forum and i just look the other way. I'm falling apart, keter. I don't even do this anymore when I'm grocery shopping.

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:51 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Could you explain your use of 'an' here? Asking for a friend.

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am
by promethean75
Please refrain from harassing keter about an simple grammar mistake.

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am
by Peter Kropotkin
promethean75 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:44 am I'm right behind u, old timer. I can feel my passion for life slipping away more and more every year. Drove by the court house the other day and didn't even look for a place in front to park a van full of explosives. I don't smoke marijuana anymore. Haven't thought about murdering my wretched mother in like seven months. I no longer check the obituaries to see if my old man is dead yet. Don't care about leading the revolution. Haven't stolen anything in years. I see a capitalist or a christian at a forum and i just look the other way. I'm falling apart, keter. I don't even do this anymore when I'm grocery shopping.
K: I am at the stage where I have seen it all before... nothing new,
nothing here to experience or feel passionate about.... a young one
might say, just kill yourself then... and there is nothing there either...
I recall Shakespearian line that goes like this, in a slightly different context:

"...that the flesh is heir to? tis a consummation devoutly to be wished for''

I have no ''consummation devoutly to be wished for""

and there are moments of joy and happiness, that make this
game we play, almost worth playing... I can't say I am anti-life as
much as I have no interest in the constant drama of life.. drama
bores me, immensely. If there was a trait of the young, I would say,
it's the constant drama they are in... and that gets old, real fast....

give me life without the annoying drama.. I might even take that...
in politics and within business and within our daily lives, exists
drama, and really unnecessary drama...really pointless drama...
I am currently getting that shit from one of my sisters..
and I don't need that...if there was a phrase that all old people call for,
it is this... just leave me alone so I can do my thing...
that is pretty much the mantra of getting old... let me do my thing...
without the drama...

Kropotkin

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:05 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
promethean75 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am Please refrain from harassing keter about an simple grammar mistake.
I thought it must have some deep meaning. Why are you butting in? How about lettting him answer for himself?

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:07 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Is everyone commenting on this site either drunk or high (myself excluded)??

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:15 am
by promethean75
Anybody who thinks the phrase 'an philosophical experiment' has some deep meaning and isn't just an arbitrary typo, is the one who is suspect of being high or drunk.

Now forget about keter and go apologize to F.D. Pants for calling him a Hamas lovin jihadist. Go.

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:28 am
by Peter Kropotkin
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:05 am
promethean75 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am Please refrain from harassing keter about an simple grammar mistake.
I thought it must have some deep meaning. Why are you butting in? How about lettting him answer for himself?
K: having read enough of your stuff, I know that you have no interest
in the truth.. you only care about your already clearly designated
beliefs and values... and every single post of yours, is an attempt to
confirm your already established bias... and thus, I don't really care
enough to give you answer...

Kropotkin

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:49 am
by vegetariantaxidermy
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:28 am
vegetariantaxidermy wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 1:05 am
promethean75 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am Please refrain from harassing keter about an simple grammar mistake.
I thought it must have some deep meaning. Why are you butting in? How about lettting him answer for himself?
K: having read enough of your stuff, I know that you have no interest
in the truth.. you only care about your already clearly designated
beliefs and values... and every single post of yours, is an attempt to
confirm your already established bias... and thus, I don't really care
enough to give you answer...

Kropotkin
So just another bog standard moron then. Not even a typo :lol:

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:53 am
by Age
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:14 pm are the days long or short?
yes...
when young, the days are long
and when old, the days are short...
and this is a truism of life...
This here is another absurdity of and from the very narrowed and shallow perspective and views of the one here known as "peter kropotkin".
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:14 pm that what we experience comes from where we stand...
when I was young, life was different..
and when, as now, I am old, life is different still...
and that is what I call a situational life...
and is similar to situational ethics...
where the situation dictates the ethics..
where the life situation dictates how we experience life...
There are just so many False and Wrong assumptions and claims here, that is could take the rest of "peter kropotkin's" very short life left to Correct these things for and to "peter kropotkin".
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:14 pm and today, I experience life as an old man....
which means I move slowly and take my time,
unlike my youth, where I ran around like a crazy person....
I was trying to experience everything, as a young person does...
the search was for something new, something that engaged me....
I was trying to experience everything, all at once...

today, I don't experience experience's like I once did...
my world, my world is shrinking.. to what is familiar
and known...for that is what old people do...
today, I was looking at the new releases coming out in music,
and I didn't recognize a single name...even in my favorite areas,
classical and Jazz... I am aware of who Billie Eilish is, but
couldn't name a song of hers to save my life...
same as Beyonce, couldn't name a song of hers...

what I have left to experience is old age and then death...
and not much else left to experience... and what does
any of this mean to you? not a thing.. nothing at all.....
Thus, proving my claim above about these being the views of and from just a very narrowed and shallow perspective, only.
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:14 pm and so, I impart no wisdom.. give no choices, offer up no solutions...
and this is philosophy... of an old man... which means that it is
situational philosophy... the situation dictates the philosophy...

Kropotkin
The 'situation', itself, does not 'dictate the philosophy'.

It is how OPEN or CLOSED one is, which actually 'dictates' how much 'philosophy', love-of-learning one has, and thus how wise one Truly is.

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:41 am
by Age
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am
promethean75 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:44 am I'm right behind u, old timer. I can feel my passion for life slipping away more and more every year. Drove by the court house the other day and didn't even look for a place in front to park a van full of explosives. I don't smoke marijuana anymore. Haven't thought about murdering my wretched mother in like seven months. I no longer check the obituaries to see if my old man is dead yet. Don't care about leading the revolution. Haven't stolen anything in years. I see a capitalist or a christian at a forum and i just look the other way. I'm falling apart, keter. I don't even do this anymore when I'm grocery shopping.
K: I am at the stage where I have seen it all before... nothing new,
nothing here to experience or feel passionate about.... a young one
might say, just kill yourself then... and there is nothing there either...
I recall Shakespearian line that goes like this, in a slightly different context:

"...that the flesh is heir to? tis a consummation devoutly to be wished for''

I have no ''consummation devoutly to be wished for""

and there are moments of joy and happiness, that make this
game we play, almost worth playing... I can't say I am anti-life as
much as I have no interest in the constant drama of life.. drama
bores me, immensely. If there was a trait of the young, I would say,
it's the constant drama they are in... and that gets old, real fast....

give me life without the annoying drama.. I might even take that...
in politics and within business and within our daily lives, exists
drama, and really unnecessary drama...really pointless drama...
I am currently getting that shit from one of my sisters..
and I don't need that...if there was a phrase that all old people call for,
it is this... just leave me alone so I can do my thing...
that is pretty much the mantra of getting old... let me do my thing...
without the drama...

Kropotkin
Once again, here is another prime example of when the 'innate nature' of being a 'human being' has completely gone, and has replaced by the adult human being's indoctrinated False teachings.

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:23 pm
by Peter Kropotkin
Age wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:41 am
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am
promethean75 wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:44 am I'm right behind u, old timer. I can feel my passion for life slipping away more and more every year. Drove by the court house the other day and didn't even look for a place in front to park a van full of explosives. I don't smoke marijuana anymore. Haven't thought about murdering my wretched mother in like seven months. I no longer check the obituaries to see if my old man is dead yet. Don't care about leading the revolution. Haven't stolen anything in years. I see a capitalist or a christian at a forum and i just look the other way. I'm falling apart, keter. I don't even do this anymore when I'm grocery shopping.
K: I am at the stage where I have seen it all before... nothing new,
nothing here to experience or feel passionate about.... a young one
might say, just kill yourself then... and there is nothing there either...
I recall Shakespearian line that goes like this, in a slightly different context:

"...that the flesh is heir to? tis a consummation devoutly to be wished for''

I have no ''consummation devoutly to be wished for""

and there are moments of joy and happiness, that make this
game we play, almost worth playing... I can't say I am anti-life as
much as I have no interest in the constant drama of life.. drama
bores me, immensely. If there was a trait of the young, I would say,
it's the constant drama they are in... and that gets old, real fast....

give me life without the annoying drama.. I might even take that...
in politics and within business and within our daily lives, exists
drama, and really unnecessary drama...really pointless drama...
I am currently getting that shit from one of my sisters..
and I don't need that...if there was a phrase that all old people call for,
it is this... just leave me alone so I can do my thing...
that is pretty much the mantra of getting old... let me do my thing...
without the drama...

Kropotkin
Once again, here is another prime example of when the 'innate nature' of being a 'human being' has completely gone, and has replaced by the adult human being's indoctrinated False teachings.

K: It's when I read this type of shit from Age, that I am pretty sure she
has no clue what the point of the post was... and I don't have the time nor
the energy explaining it to Age... but she is a pretty good example of
someone who is so locked into their biases and prejudices that they
can't see past them....every single post looks the same to them..
like a hammer... where everything looks like a nail.. a hammer
just can't get past that nail thing... and Age just can't get past her
biases and fixations...to her, everything looks like a hammer
and the nail is the only point of being a hammer... for all her
questions are exactly the same, same bases, same biases, same
responses... she couldn't change her responses to save her life..
and that is how rigid and inflexible she is.... and that, to me anyway,
is not living philosophically.. for being philosophical means the
Socratic questions... to know thyself and the unexamined life
isn't worth living... and I add a third question... can you change,
adapt to the ever-new conditions that we face as human beings?
Age clearly can't adapt or change... her questions are exactly the same,
and her beliefs haven't changed one iota since I have been here..
and that to me, anyway, is her biggest problem, the inability to
change or adapt to the ever-changing nature of threads and posts...
no matter what you say, she will respond with the exact same
questions and the very rare times she actually gives an answer,
it will be the exact same answer... every single time....
Don't be Age.. learn to change and adapt and grow...


Kropotkin

Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:39 pm
by Walker
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:14 pm
Kropotkin
I too was once a bloviator, although I had yet to be everywhere and do everything.

Six word stories might spice up your life.

They are an adventure into the unknown realm, or at least little experienced realm of Philosophical Brevity (PB).
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Re: an philosophical experiment...

Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 12:04 am
by Age
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:23 pm
Age wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 3:41 am
Peter Kropotkin wrote: Sat Mar 02, 2024 12:58 am

K: I am at the stage where I have seen it all before... nothing new,
nothing here to experience or feel passionate about.... a young one
might say, just kill yourself then... and there is nothing there either...
I recall Shakespearian line that goes like this, in a slightly different context:

"...that the flesh is heir to? tis a consummation devoutly to be wished for''

I have no ''consummation devoutly to be wished for""

and there are moments of joy and happiness, that make this
game we play, almost worth playing... I can't say I am anti-life as
much as I have no interest in the constant drama of life.. drama
bores me, immensely. If there was a trait of the young, I would say,
it's the constant drama they are in... and that gets old, real fast....

give me life without the annoying drama.. I might even take that...
in politics and within business and within our daily lives, exists
drama, and really unnecessary drama...really pointless drama...
I am currently getting that shit from one of my sisters..
and I don't need that...if there was a phrase that all old people call for,
it is this... just leave me alone so I can do my thing...
that is pretty much the mantra of getting old... let me do my thing...
without the drama...

Kropotkin
Once again, here is another prime example of when the 'innate nature' of being a 'human being' has completely gone, and has replaced by the adult human being's indoctrinated False teachings.

K: It's when I read this type of shit from Age, that I am pretty sure she
has no clue what the point of the post was... and I don't have the time nor
the energy explaining it to Age... but she is a pretty good example of
someone who is so locked into their biases and prejudices that they
can't see past them....every single post looks the same to them..
like a hammer... where everything looks like a nail.. a hammer
just can't get past that nail thing... and Age just can't get past her
biases and fixations...to her, everything looks like a hammer
and the nail is the only point of being a hammer... for all her
questions are exactly the same, same bases, same biases, same
responses... she couldn't change her responses to save her life..
and that is how rigid and inflexible she is.... and that, to me anyway,
is not living philosophically.. for being philosophical means the
Socratic questions... to know thyself and the unexamined life
isn't worth living... and I add a third question... can you change,
adapt to the ever-new conditions that we face as human beings?
Age clearly can't adapt or change... her questions are exactly the same,
and her beliefs haven't changed one iota since I have been here..
and that to me, anyway, is her biggest problem, the inability to
change or adapt to the ever-changing nature of threads and posts...
no matter what you say, she will respond with the exact same
questions and the very rare times she actually gives an answer,
it will be the exact same answer... every single time....
Don't be Age.. learn to change and adapt and grow...


Kropotkin
And not one of the allegations, accusations, nor claims made here by "peter kropotkin" was nor even could be backed up and supported. As "peter kropotkin" will prove absolutely True for 'us' here.