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Faith is belief without appeal to evidence. There can be no rational basis without evidence.

0 ignorance (certainty that you don't know)
1 found anecdote (assumed motive)
2 adversarial anecdote (presumes inaccurate communication motive)
3 collaborative anecdote (presumes accurate communication motive)
4 experience of (possible illusion or delusion)
5 ground truth (consensus Reality)
6 occupational reality (verified pragmatism)
7 professional consensus (context specific expertise, best practice)
8 science (rigorous replication)
<- empirical probability / logical necessity ->
9 math, logic, Spiritual Geometry (semantic, absolute)
10 experience qua experience (you are definitely sensing this)

Knowledge is justified belief. That justification comes in two forms; empirical probability and logical necessity, both of which rest on replication. Any idea that cannot be replicably tested is literally indistinguishable from fiction and Ought to be treated accordingly.

Leaving aside that god is a completely ineffable idea (igtheism) All versions of god are either an untestable force or an untestable personified force. No version of god has ever been demonstrated to be possible, much less plausible, much less likely, much less actual.

Belief in anything which cannot be replicated is proof (evidence sufficient to convince a rational skeptic) of an inadequate epistemology. People who believe anything woo (untestable force claimed to have real effects) are sitting at the intellectual kiddie table and have No Right to be in charge of a business, be in public service, be in any leadership position whatsoever, or have children. Faith is a disconnect from reality.

Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:35 pm Belief in anything which cannot be replicated is proof (evidence sufficient to convince a rational skeptic) of an inadequate epistemology. People who believe anything woo (untestable force claimed to have real effects) are sitting at the intellectual kiddie table and have No Right to be in charge of a business, be in public service, be in any leadership position whatsoever, or have children. Faith is a disconnect from reality.

I like that! I'm guessing that could make the world a whole lot less insane.

Everything is a one-off event. It's impossible to replicate any past event.

The OP idea would turn all history and memory into fiction.

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Everything is a one-off event. It's impossible to replicate any past event.

The OP idea would turn all history and memory into fiction. :cry:
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Nothing replicates exactly. Lots of things replicate sufficiently. God isn't either.

do you believe the sun will "rise" in the east?

why?

-Imp

Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:35 pm Faith is belief without appeal to evidence. There can be no rational basis without evidence.

0 ignorance (certainty that you don't know)
1 found anecdote (assumed motive)
2 adversarial anecdote (presumes inaccurate communication motive)
3 collaborative anecdote (presumes accurate communication motive)
4 experience of (possible illusion or delusion)
5 ground truth (consensus Reality)
6 occupational reality (verified pragmatism)
7 professional consensus (context specific expertise, best practice)
8 science (rigorous replication)
<- empirical probability / logical necessity ->
9 math, logic, Spiritual Geometry (semantic, absolute)
10 experience qua experience (you are definitely sensing this)

Knowledge is justified belief. That justification comes in two forms; empirical probability and logical necessity, both of which rest on replication. Any idea that cannot be replicably tested is literally indistinguishable from fiction and Ought to be treated accordingly.

Leaving aside that god is a completely ineffable idea (igtheism) All versions of god are either an untestable force or an untestable personified force. No version of god has ever been demonstrated to be possible, much less plausible, much less likely, much less actual.

This here is ABSOLUTELY False, Wrong, Inaccurate, and Incorrect.

But, as this one, and "others" here, will CLEARLY SHOW, because they BELIEVE what 'it' said is ABSOLUTELY TRUE they will just carry on IN, and WITH, their OWN BELIEF/S as though what was written IS ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:35 pm Belief in anything which cannot be replicated is proof (evidence sufficient to convince a rational skeptic) of an inadequate epistemology.

BELIEF in ANY 'thing', besides one 'thing', is just IMMATURITY and LUNACY in their highest forms.

And to PROVE that 'this' is true can be, and WILL BE, SEEN by the fact that NONE of these people here will even BEGIN to CHALLENGE and/nor QUESTION me over 'this'.

Some of these people, BACK THEN, had been so INDOCTRINATED that they ACTUALLY BELIEVED that they HAD TO BELIEVE 'things' were true, and some even BELIEVED that they could NOT live without BELIEVING 'things' were true.

Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 6:35 pm People who believe anything woo (untestable force claimed to have real effects) are sitting at the intellectual kiddie table and have No Right to be in charge of a business, be in public service, be in any leadership position whatsoever, or have children. Faith is a disconnect from reality.

Advocate wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 10:47 pm

phyllo wrote: ↑Fri Nov 24, 2023 7:56 pm Everything is a one-off event. It's impossible to replicate any past event.

The OP idea would turn all history and memory into fiction.

Nothing replicates exactly. Lots of things replicate sufficiently. God isn't either.

How do 'you', supposedly, KNOW "advocate"?

Who and/or what, EXACTLY, IS 'God' TO 'you'?