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Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am**

There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?

As usual you are looking at things wrong. Mental illness is the cure for sanity.

ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 am**

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)

Life is lonely and hopeless. There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:27 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
Life is lonely and hopeless. There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.

When we keep arguing for our limitations we get to keep them.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:28 am**

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:27 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
Life is lonely and hopeless. There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.
When we keep arguing for our limitations we get to keep them.

I'm not arguing "for" limitations. I'm complaining about them.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:31 am**

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:20 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel.

How are 'you' defining the words 'this world' EXACTLY?

WHEN 'you' ARE CAPABLE OF DOING 'this', so that 'we' can SEE what 'you' are ACTUALLY talking ABOUT and referring TO, EXACTLY, THEN, and ONLY THEN, I will be ABLE TO SEE how 'this world', itself, COULD ACTUALLY BE 'cruel' in ANY way, let alone a so-called UNBELIEVABLY CRUEL way. That is; OF COURSE, IF 'this world' EVER COULD BE.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world.

How long have 'you', "gary childress", KNOWN FOR that 'you' are an ABSOLUTE WORTHLESS and COMPLETELY USELESS "victim" "gary childress"?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am How can God be so heartless?

Who and/or what is this 'God Thing', EXACTLY, which 'you' speak OF and talk ABOUT here, "gary childress"?

By the way I suggest that 'you' BECOME, and then REMAIN, OPEN UNTIL 'you' FIND OUT what God IS, EXACTLY, BEFORE 'you' even BEGIN to JUDGE 'IT'.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:24 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 am
attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:52 am ps. Stop blaming God (IT causes you more mental stress - love the entity, give thanks for your existence and things will improve)
Life is lonely and hopeless.

SO, here we have 'it'. The MEANING OF 'life', itself, IS 'loneliness AND hopelessness'. Well according to just one human being known as "gary childress' here anyway.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 3:00 am There's nothing for a lonely, hopeless person to love or be thankful for.

If absolutely ANY one TELLS 'you', or EXPECTS 'you', to be thankful for what 'you' have EXPERIENCED, and for 'the life' that 'you' ARE LIVING, then 'that one' has NOT YET LEARNED what the ACTUAL Truth IS, EXACTLY, HERE YET.

FEELING 'lonely' and/or 'hopeless' is NOT is 'one thing'. But 'you', "yourself", are NOT what IS just being FELT. 'you' ARE MORE than just A 'feeling' "gary childress".

'you' are NOT an, ACTUAL, 'lonely, hopeless person'. Although 'those feelings' are OBVIOUSLY being FELT, within.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:05 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?

Clinical depression is an imbalace of neurotransmitters, so don't blame gods. Whereas sadness (an entirely different entity), feels similar but has an experiencial cause. Though it is a normal response to such experiences and though unpleasant, is part of the recovery from the negative event, not unlike the physical pain associated with healing from a physical ailment.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:06 pm**

Age wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 5:20 am wrote a bunch of self-indulgent garbage in response to someone who wasn't even addressing him. Get lost, asshole.

Posted: **Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:57 pm**

LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:05 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
Clinical depression is an imbalace of neurotransmitters, so don't blame gods.

Actually that industry created model was never particularly well supported and is pretty much debunked.

Whereas sadness (an entirely different entity), feels similar but has an experiencial cause. Though it is a normal response to such experiences and though unpleasant, is part of the recovery from the negative event, not unlike the physical pain associated with healing from a physical ailment.

This I tend to agree with.

Posted: **Sat Oct 28, 2023 2:07 am**

Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 6:57 pm
LuckyR wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 8:05 am
Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?
Clinical depression is an imbalace of neurotransmitters, so don't blame gods.
Actually that industry created model was never particularly well supported and is pretty much debunked.

I apologize for sloppy wording, what I meant by "clinical depression" was not every case that meets the diagnostic criteria for the diagnosis. What I meant was cases of clinical depression unassociated with an external stressor ie. caused by an internal source. Professionals commonly feel the causes in such cases are (grossly) either genetic, implying an inherited biochemical imbalance or personality type, which may also have it's origins from a biochemical source.

True these mechanisms are not known at the granular level. And you're right that post hoc gross measurements of serotonin levels do not support a simplistic "high" vs "low" systemic level as being causative, though to be fair improvement in symptoms through SSRI use is well documented and the possibility of a key role of neurotransmitters in dysfunctional mood disorders, while not proven as you pointed out, certainly is consistent with the available metadata.

Posted: **Sat Oct 28, 2023 7:38 am**

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Fri Oct 27, 2023 1:56 am There is no hope. This world is unbelievably cruel. I never stood a chance of getting anywhere worthwhile, because there's nothing worthwhile to embrace in this world. How can God be so heartless?

All humans are "programmed" with the critical, necessary and critical basic 4Fs, certain instincts and emotions to facilitate basic survival.

Mental illness arise when there is something wrong or damage to them, such that they cannot operate normally.
For example, all humans are "programmed" with the 'oughtness to kill' for food and self-defence to ensure survival and preservation of the species. There is a also a 'program' to inhibit this 'oughtness to kill' so that humans do not direct this to kill other humans which in principle would defeat its original objective, i.e. preservation of the species.

The emotions including 'sadness' is a critical emotion for survival, else humans would not have adapted to it.
Like all other basic drives and emotions there are inhibitors and modulators to ensure they operate within optimal limits.
If there is something wrong or damage to the inhibitors and modulators, them 'mental' illness will manifest, e.g. if the inhibitors and modulators sadness are weakened or damage, then, we have depression.

It is critical to note, all mental illness come in degrees or within a spectrum.

If it is of the severest degrees, one would have been given the strongest medicine available or confined to a psychiatric ward.

Since you are able to post and discuss in a forum like here, your problem is not serious [supposedly with medicine].
Since your case is not serious and can access to the internet and other resources, you will be able to manage the situation by understanding the relevant facts, then accept them as naturally occurring and work around it.

To work around it, besides the necessary medicine, you will need to practice mindfulness meditation where if the issue [mental pain or suffering] whenever is triggered, then one can rationalize it away using the various techniques from mindfulness meditation.
It is not easy with mental issues in contrast to physical handicaps, but one has to try one's best.

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