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Boony’s Room

Two identical copies of cricketer David Boon were made unbeknownst to him. The two copies of Boony, instantly appear facing each other from opposite corners of a white room that is 3 metres cubed, identical in all directions.

There are no causal effects differing in each of the Boony's slightly differing positions in spacetime. Nothing in this thought experiment regarding each version of David Boon once instantiated within the room is different in any way.

What happens next?
Do they both, at the same time, ask the exact same question of each other?
Do they end up arguing because they both keep attempting to interject at precisely the same time with precisely the same dialogue?

After five minutes, the pair hear a voice asking them to draw a picture of their favourite fruit on the wall and are told there is a pencil in their left pocket.

Do they both turn and draw on the same symmetrically opposite part of the wall?
Do they both draw identical images of the fruit?

I wish to draw myself. Does that count as a fruit?

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:15 am Two identical copies of cricketer David Boon were made unbeknownst to him.

This premise is a non-starter. The phrase "identical copy" is an oxymoron.

Identity is an object's entire history.

Your identity is your entire origin story. All the way to "The Beginning".

David Boon's origin story doesn't trace back to David Boon.
David Boon's copies trace back to David Boon.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:21 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:15 am Two identical copies of cricketer David Boon were made unbeknownst to him.

This premise is a non-starter. The phrase "identical copy" is an oxymoron.

Identity is an object's entire history.

Your identity is your entire origin story. All the way to "The Beginning".

David Boon's origin story doesn't trace back to David Boon.
David Boon's copies trace back to David Boon.

U don't comprehend a hypothetical consideration of identical humans then?

SAVE THE FRUIT TREES!!!!!!!

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:21 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:15 am Two identical copies of cricketer David Boon were made unbeknownst to him.

This premise is a non-starter. The phrase "identical copy" is an oxymoron.

Identity is an object's entire history.

U R being an idiot. Both David Boon's are identical - history included ffs, try and consider it HYPOTHETICALLY!!

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:34 am U R being an idiot. Both David Boon's are identical - history included ffs, try and consider it HYPOTHETICALLY!!

So if their histories are "identical" they how did they end up in different locations in spacetime?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:38 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:34 am U R being an idiot. Both David Boon's are identical - history included ffs, try and consider it HYPOTHETICALLY!!

So if their histories are "identical" they how did they end up in different locations in spacetime?

Fuk hed to devalue the experiment

Their 'histories' are identical apart from 3 feet.

BUT those 3 feet have no impact on the experiment (kunt)

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:42 am Fuk hed to devalue the experiment

There 'histories' are identical apart from 3 feet.

So their histories NOT identical. OK... The experiment is null and void.

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:43 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:42 am Fuk hed to devalue the experiment

There 'histories' are identical apart from 3 feet.

So their histories NOT identical. OK... The experiment is null and void.

BUT those 3 feet have no impact on the experiment (kunt)

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:42 am BUT those 3 feet have no impact on the experiment (kunt)

Their fact that the two so-called "identical" entities are NOT identical has no impact on the experiment?

What the fuck?!?!

SAVE THE CUNTS!!!!!!!

(EDIT: even if they don't spell correctly)

"the pair hear a voice asking them to draw a picture of their favourite fruit"

First, how do u know each one likes fruit? What if one of em is a vegetable guy who doesn't like to eat sugary foods such as fruit?

And what day of the week is this experiment happening on?

Skepdick wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:45 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 10:42 am BUT those 3 feet have no impact on the experiment (kunt)

Their fact that the two so-called "identical" entities are NOT identical has no impact on the experiment?

What the fuck?!?!

DO U UNDER_stand a hypothetical experiment or not?

There are no causal effects differing in each of the Boony's slightly differing positions in spacetime