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Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:22 pm Mmmm, no.




I don't know what gets into me sometimes; just crazy, I guess.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:18 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:22 pm Mmmm, no.




I don't know what gets into me sometimes; just crazy, I guess.

You again.

Is God necessary for what?

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:42 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:18 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 7:22 pm Mmmm, no.




I don't know what gets into me sometimes; just crazy, I guess.

You again.

Is God necessary for what?

It was the title of a Youtube video that popped up, "Is God Necessary?"; I didn't watch it, but before I new what had happened I had started a thread and answered the question. Don't tell me that's never happened to you.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:48 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:42 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:18 pm

You again.

Is God necessary for what?

It was the title of a Youtube video that popped up, "Is God Necessary?"; I didn't watch it, but before I new what had happened I had started a thread and answered the question. Don't tell me that's never happened to you.

Can't say it has Harbal, but far wackier things have!

I still don't understand the question, but no could be the right answer.

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:56 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:48 pm

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:42 pm

It was the title of a Youtube video that popped up, "Is God Necessary?"; I didn't watch it, but before I new what had happened I had started a thread and answered the question. Don't tell me that's never happened to you.

Can't say it has Harbal, but far wackier things have!

I still don't understand the question, but no could be the right answer.

I don't understand it either, because I didn't watch the video.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:01 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:56 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:48 pm

Can't say it has Harbal, but far wackier things have!

I still don't understand the question, but no could be the right answer.

I don't understand it either, because I didn't watch the video.

I honestly think I may have stumbled on a utube vid of that name - although there are probably a lot of them.

How about this, if you knew God does exist, can you think of anything that would be necessary to come from its existence?

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:06 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:01 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Fri Jul 07, 2023 11:56 pm
I don't understand it either, because I didn't watch the video.

I honestly think I may have stumbled on a utube vid of that name - although there are probably a lot of them.

How about this, if you knew God does exist, can you think of anything that would be necessary to come from its existence?

No, I'm not aware of any gaps I need him to fill.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:15 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:06 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:01 am

I honestly think I may have stumbled on a utube vid of that name - although there are probably a lot of them.

How about this, if you knew God does exist, can you think of anything that would be necessary to come from its existence?

No, I'm not aware of any gaps I need him to fill.

Personally I think consciousness itself requires this God entity to exist (as it does at the backbone to what we perceive).

I've said it before on the forum, much like a component in an electrical circuit 'works' via cathode\anode our QUALIA operates from the light, to dark matter\energy. We 'consume' the light back to the dark, and this ever evolves the universe eternally.

God is extrememly efficient. IMO God is EVERYTHING and that includes dark matter\energy.

I had a thought earlier this morning about the European spacecraft recently launched, a forget its name, but has been launched the other day to attempt study this mysterious dark energy\matter and I thought to myself, imagine if scientists real eyes the way it is structured could only come about via an intelligence.

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:27 am

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:15 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:06 am

No, I'm not aware of any gaps I need him to fill.

Personally I think consciousness itself requires this God entity to exist (as it does at the backbone to what we perceive).

I've said it before on the forum, much like a component in an electrical circuit 'works' via cathode\anode our QUALIA operates from the light, to dark matter\energy. We 'consume' the light back to the dark, and this ever evolves the universe eternally.

God is extrememly efficient. IMO God is EVERYTHING and that includes dark matter\energy.

I had a thought earlier this morning about the European spacecraft recently launched, a forget its name, but has been launched the other day to attempt study this mysterious dark energy\matter and I thought to myself, imagine if scientists real eyes the way it is structured could only come about via an intelligence.

Maybe you're right; who knows? I certainly don't.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:21 am Does It Matter Whether God Exists or Not?
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Obviously whether god exists or not, do matter to theists who are clinging to God like a drowning person clinging to a twig.
God matters to theists as a balm to soothe their very painful cognitive dissonances arising from an inherent unavoidable existential crisis.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:31 am

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:21 am Does It Matter Whether God Exists or Not?
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Obviously whether god exists or not, do matter to theists who are clinging to God like a drowning person clinging to a twig.
God matters to theists as a balm to soothe their very painful cognitive dissonances arising from an inherent unavoidable existential crisis.

You have no idea about God as with ALL atheists..and you likely will never know.
I know with 99.9999999% certainty it exists and we are indeed in a God system.

This ridiculous argument of yours can play two ways (for atheists and theists):- ".. to soothe their very painful cognitive dissonances arising from an inherent unavoidable existential crisis."

Imagine burning in HELL forever, maybe that's why atheists cling to their hope that there is NOT a God, since they know what sins they have committed.

• I'm Robert Lawrence Kuhn and closer to truth as my journey to find out
  I begin in Notre Dame with the philosopher who reinvigorated Christian philosophy Alvin Plantinga
  I see how Al first because God's necessity undergirds Al's whole concept of God
  Al, in trying to discern the nature of God to determine whether I believe there is a God
  one of the questions that always comes up is
  is God necessary a necessary being
  what does that mean
  
  AP: a necessary being is one that can't fail to exist no matter how things had been or we could say
  a necessary being is one that exists in every possible world or
  a possible world is a way things could have been a sort of total way things could have been that says something about everything
  one of these possible worlds is actual the rest of Mark
  you and I exist in all those possible worlds which are such that if they had been actual then we would have existed and
  the necessary being is one such that for any world at all if it had been actual it would have existed

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:06 am
No, I'm not aware of any gaps I need him to fill.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 6:19 am

Harbal wrote: ↑Sat Jul 08, 2023 12:06 am
No, I'm not aware of any gaps I need him to fill.

Very well observed.

There is...
No gap between the seer and the seen.
No gap between the feeler and the felt.
No gap between the taster and the taste.
No gap between the hearer and the heard.
No gap between the smeller and the smelt.
No gap between the senser and the sensed.
No gap between the knower and the known.
Bo gap between the believer and the believed.
No gap between the perceiver and the perceived.
No gap between the experiencer and the experience.
No gap between the thinker and the thought.
No gap between the creator and the created.
No gap between the author and the story.
No gap between the inventor and the invented.
No gap between the planner and the plan.
Etc...
Etc...
Etc...
Etc...
Etc...
Etc...


Ad infinitum..In this CONCEPTION...The forming of the formless.

When all distance collapses, you are no longer looking into the world; all of the world is looking out of you.

In / Out where is that?

HERE NOW / NOWHERE.