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Is arguing for the irrefutable and right philosophy a winnable exchange?
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:24 pm
by Dontaskme
Can a philosophical argument where there are opposing views exchanged within the discussion, ever be won?
If anyone presenting their philosophical points of view believe their philosophy to be irrefutable and right? Does that make everyone right, can everyone's point of view be irrefutably true? If everyone is right, then no one ever wins or loses a philosophical argument where opposing points of view are being discussed.
Re: Is arguing for the irrefutable and right philosophy a winnable exchange?
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 4:24 pm
by commonsense
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Can a philosophical argument where there are opposing views exchanged within the discussion, ever be won?
If anyone presenting their philosophical points of view believe their philosophy to be irrefutable and right? Does that make everyone right, can everyone's point of view be irrefutably true? If everyone is right, then no one ever wins or loses a philosophical argument where opposing points of view are being discussed.
As you might know from your experience with bahman, the answer to your first question is no.
All it takes to turn the situation around is to divorce oneself from emotion, rely on reason and be open minded regarding the discussion and the opponent’s claims. Be rationally critical instead of passionately emotional.
Many of us are not aware of our emotional attachments. This compounds the matter. Presenting a logical argument to someone who “argues” from feelings is futile.
Once a discussion becomes fact v feeling, it will invariably become reduced to ad homs fired back and forth. If one is a philosopher—or even just pretending to be one—argue thoughtfully, remain civil and quickly disengage from futile arguments.
Re: Is arguing for the irrefutable and right philosophy a winnable exchange?
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:26 pm
by Harbal
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Can a philosophical argument where there are opposing views exchanged within the discussion, ever be won?
If anyone presenting their philosophical points of view believe their philosophy to be irrefutable and right? Does that make everyone right, can everyone's point of view be irrefutably true? If everyone is right, then no one ever wins or loses a philosophical argument where opposing points of view are being discussed.
And yet we continue to do it.
Re: Is arguing for the irrefutable and right philosophy a winnable exchange?
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 10:42 pm
by Dontaskme
Harbal wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 8:26 pm
Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jul 03, 2023 3:24 pm
Can a philosophical argument where there are opposing views exchanged within the discussion, ever be won?
If anyone presenting their philosophical points of view believe their philosophy to be irrefutable and right? Does that make everyone right, can everyone's point of view be irrefutably true? If everyone is right, then no one ever wins or loses a philosophical argument where opposing points of view are being discussed.
And yet we continue to do it.
Yes, it seems we’re just walking each other home back to where we never left here now nowhere. Nothing ever moved or got anywhere and nothing changed or was different.
Unconditional love expressing itself unconditionally.
Re: Is arguing for the irrefutable and right philosophy a winnable exchange?
Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2023 11:18 pm
by Dontaskme
There is no condition that causes me to be unloving or disrespectful. In other words, if I am unloving or disrespectful, it is not because of certain circumstances caused by others that make me react unlovingly or disrespectfully.I choose to be unloving and disrespectful independent of the circumstances because I’m unconditional and that’s all I am. I Am that I am. The beloved.
