The Philosophy Discussion Forum

Here at 54:37
https://youtu.be/ISdBAf-ysI0?t=3268
Professor Jim Al-Khalili stated,
"In some strange sense, it really does suggest the moon doesn't exists when we are not looking. It truly defies common sense."

Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:12 pm To repeat my question for VA, ........
What evidence do you have for the astonishingly unscientific claim that no humans = no reality?

I have already explained to you many times.

There are two senses of reality in contention, i.e.

• 1. FSK-ed reality [evolutionary embedded in all humans]
  
  2. P-realist reality independent of the existence of humans.

I have demonstrated your version of reality in 2 is illusory.

PH's Philosophical Realism is Illusory
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39992

PH's What is Fact [independent] is Illusory
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39577

My FSK-ed reality is most realistic.
FSK-ed implied it CANNOT be independent of the existence of humans*.
Therefore if there are no humans, there is no FSK-ed reality.

*other than Peter Holmes, "independent of the existence of humans" is generally accepted without doubt as simply "mind-independent"

Notes: to KIV

Finally we get reality-proper

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Mon Jun 05, 2023 5:06 am

Peter Holmes wrote: ↑Sun Jun 04, 2023 3:12 pm To repeat my question for VA, ........

What evidence do you have for the astonishingly unscientific claim that no humans = no reality?

I have already explained to you many times.

There are two senses of reality in contention, i.e.

• 1. FSK-ed reality [evolutionary embedded in all humans]
  
  2. P-realist reality independent of the existence of humans.

I have demonstrated your version of reality in 2 is illusory.

PH's Philosophical Realism is Illusory
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39992

PH's What is Fact [independent] is Illusory
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=39577

My FSK-ed reality is most realistic.
FSK-ed implied it CANNOT be independent of the existence of humans*.
Therefore if there are no humans, there is no FSK-ed reality.

*other than Peter Holmes, "independent of the existence of humans" is generally accepted without doubt as simply "mind-independent"

I am still unable to work out whether you are bad at philosophy, or just bad at explaining yourself. Probably a bit of both.