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Are there gods or superhumans among humans? For example, was Albert Einstein (or else are any of the current rock stars of physics) somehow innately better or more important than anyone else? Are they like royalty that cannot be dispensed with? Are the rest of us just plebes who would most do what is right if we threw ourselves in front of our betters to stop an oncoming bullet or something? Are we part of a tribe where some people are just more valuable or special to the tribe and should therefore be preserved at all costs while the rest of us are just anonymous statistics when we die?

Would you like some tea?

Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:39 am Would you like some tea?

No. Thank you anyway.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 am Are there gods or superhumans among humans? For example, was Albert Einstein (or else are any of the current rock stars of physics) somehow innately better or more important than anyone else? Are they like royalty that cannot be dispensed with? Are the rest of us just plebes who would most do what is right if we threw ourselves in front of our betters to stop an oncoming bullet or something? Are we part of a tribe where some people are just more valuable or special to the tribe and should therefore be preserved at all costs while the rest of us are just anonymous statistics when we die?

I really wish you would learn to spell plebs Gary.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:56 am

Agent Smith wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 2:39 am Would you like some tea?

No. Thank you anyway.

Just in case.

I guess it will sound like irony but without a sea of plebs, so-called, there wouldn't be any exceptionals.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 am Are there gods or superhumans among humans? For example, was Albert Einstein (or else are any of the current rock stars of physics) somehow innately better or more important than anyone else? Are they like royalty that cannot be dispensed with? Are the rest of us just plebes who would most do what is right if we threw ourselves in front of our betters to stop an oncoming bullet or something? Are we part of a tribe where some people are just more valuable or special to the tribe and should therefore be preserved at all costs while the rest of us are just anonymous statistics when we die?

Some people are more valuable, in terms of effectiveness at achieving goals that the group values. Does that bother you? If so, why?

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 9:33 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 am Are there gods or superhumans among humans? For example, was Albert Einstein (or else are any of the current rock stars of physics) somehow innately better or more important than anyone else? Are they like royalty that cannot be dispensed with? Are the rest of us just plebes who would most do what is right if we threw ourselves in front of our betters to stop an oncoming bullet or something? Are we part of a tribe where some people are just more valuable or special to the tribe and should therefore be preserved at all costs while the rest of us are just anonymous statistics when we die?

Some people are more valuable, in terms of effectiveness at achieving goals that the group values. Does that bother you? If so, why?

That depends on what goals they are trying to achieve or what goals are being achieved. What goals are being achieved right now, Flannel Jesus?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:56 am That depends on what goals they are trying to achieve or what goals are being achieved. What goals are being achieved right now, Flannel Jesus?

I don't know, you asked about Albert Einstein. He achieved a greater understanding of the physics of our universe.

Do you have a contemporary example you're concerned with?

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:58 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:56 am That depends on what goals they are trying to achieve or what goals are being achieved. What goals are being achieved right now, Flannel Jesus?

I don't know, you asked about Albert Einstein. He achieved a greater understanding of the physics of our universe.

Do you have a contemporary example you're concerned with?

No. I don't know anything of importance about physics. I only know what I know and nothing else. I can only hope that the images that I'm getting in my mind are just imagination. If they are not, then I don't know what to do that will stop those images from reaching the imagination of others. No one else should have to go through what I am imagining. And no one should go through what I'm imagining. It is worse than my own personal death. And if I am reborn, they will simply return in some other form at a later time. I'm sure of that. I have nowhere to go and nothing to do. Because nowhere I go and nothing I do will get rid of these images.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 am Are there gods or superhumans among humans? For example, was Albert Einstein (or else are any of the current rock stars of physics) somehow innately better or more important than anyone else?

ABSOLUTELY NO. BUT, THEN AGAIN, NONE of us YET KNOW what you, EXACTLY, mean or are referring to with and by the 'better' and 'important' words here.

NONE of 'those' are/were even 'more intelligent' than ANY other human being.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 am Are they like royalty that cannot be dispensed with?

ABSOLUTELY NO.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 am Are the rest of us just plebes who would most do what is right if we threw ourselves in front of our betters to stop an oncoming bullet or something?

ABSOLUTELY NO.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 1:20 amAre we part of a tribe where some people are just more valuable or special to the tribe and should therefore be preserved at all costs while the rest of us are just anonymous statistics when we die?

ABSOLUTELY NOT.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:36 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:58 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 10:56 am That depends on what goals they are trying to achieve or what goals are being achieved. What goals are being achieved right now, Flannel Jesus?

I don't know, you asked about Albert Einstein. He achieved a greater understanding of the physics of our universe.

Do you have a contemporary example you're concerned with?

No. I don't know anything of importance about physics. I only know what I know and nothing else. I can only hope that the images that I'm getting in my mind are just imagination. If they are not, then I don't know what to do that will stop those images from reaching the imagination of others. No one else should have to go through what I am imagining. And no one should go through what I'm imagining.

WHY NOT?

Obviously if 'it' is ONLY 'imagininhs', then there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to worry about NOR fear.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:36 pm It is worse than my own personal death.

And you KNOW 'this' how, EXACTLY?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:36 pmAnd if I am reborn, they will simply return in some other form at a later time. I'm sure of that. I have nowhere to go and nothing to do. Because nowhere I go and nothing I do will get rid of these images.

There is LOTS that could be done.BUT, while you BELIEVE and IMAGINE otherwise, then THERE IS absolutely NOTHING, AT ALL, which could be done, right?

Age wrote: ↑Tue Apr 18, 2023 3:11 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:36 pm

Flannel Jesus wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 11:58 am

I don't know, you asked about Albert Einstein. He achieved a greater understanding of the physics of our universe.

Do you have a contemporary example you're concerned with?

No. I don't know anything of importance about physics. I only know what I know and nothing else. I can only hope that the images that I'm getting in my mind are just imagination. If they are not, then I don't know what to do that will stop those images from reaching the imagination of others. No one else should have to go through what I am imagining. And no one should go through what I'm imagining.

WHY NOT?

Obviously if 'it' is ONLY 'imagininhs', then there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to worry about NOR fear.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:36 pm It is worse than my own personal death.

And you KNOW 'this' how, EXACTLY?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Apr 17, 2023 12:36 pmAnd if I am reborn, they will simply return in some other form at a later time. I'm sure of that. I have nowhere to go and nothing to do. Because nowhere I go and nothing I do will get rid of these images.

There is LOTS that could be done.BUT, while you BELIEVE and IMAGINE otherwise, then THERE IS absolutely NOTHING, AT ALL, which could be done, right?

I don't know. If I have to do nothing, then that is what I will do. I will do all the "nothing" I am able.