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Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:41 am
by Veritas Aequitas
How Your Genes Influence Your Favorite Foods
https://www.verywellhealth.com/genetics ... dy-6504116
A new study suggests that our taste preferences might be more linked to our genes than previously thought.
Brain-related factors might also play a role, especially for people who prefer high-calorie foods.
Understanding that our taste preferences are not completely under our control can help us make healthy choices that foster a satisfying, positive relationship with food.
Genes are a matter of fact.

Morality?

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
by Veritas Aequitas
If you turn up your nose at bananas and love a glass of bold red wine, it might have more to do with your genes than you think. And it might not be easy to change.

We already know that our food preferences are rooted in our culture. For example, one study found that cultural differences influenced how much people enjoy the appearance, aroma, taste, and texture of different foods.1

Now, new data published in Nature Communications suggests that our genetics may have a very big influence on the foods we like and dislike.2

https://www.verywellhealth.com/genetics ... dy-6504116
It is likely our genetics [a matter of fact] may have a very big influence on our moral competences?

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:51 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Is Morality Genetic?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... ty-genetic#:~
Many psychological and behavioral outcomes once believed to be transmitted socially may in fact be under strong genetic control.
Moral values tend to be self-serving and are calibrated to one's sexual strategy.
New research suggests that moral values are inherited rather than learned.


Where do your moral values come from? The intuitive answer—and a popular assumption both at large and within the field of psychology—is that you learn morality from your culture, usually by way of parental, peer, and institutional influences. Psychological theorists from Freud on have endorsed this idea. We therefore routinely assume that differences in moral positions between people are the result of their different upbringing, social circumstances, and experiences.


Either way, the fact remains that many things we used to believe are the product of upbringing and social environment are in fact under the strong control of our genetic inheritance.

One intriguing issue where old notions appear due for a revision is morality. For years, researchers and laypeople alike assumed that various moral sentiments are transmitted across generations socially—by environments' messaging, through rules that parents establish for their kids, through socialization agents such as teachers and the media, and through children’s modeling of the above.

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 12:41 pm
by Iwannaplato
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:41 am
How Your Genes Influence Your Favorite Foods
https://www.verywellhealth.com/genetics ... dy-6504116
A new study suggests that our taste preferences might be more linked to our genes than previously thought.
Brain-related factors might also play a role, especially for people who prefer high-calorie foods.
Understanding that our taste preferences are not completely under our control can help us make healthy choices that foster a satisfying, positive relationship with food.
Genes are a matter of fact.

Morality?
But we have different preferences. Some foods one person likes others hate.
There isn't universal taste, let alone objective.
There isn't universal morals, let alone objective.

And you just made an argument against your own conclusions.

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:50 pm
by Harbal
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
It is likely our genetics [a matter of fact] may have a very big influence on our moral competences?
So what? :?

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:04 pm
by Impenitent
if it due to your genetics, you had no choice in the matter...

-Imp

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:47 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Harbal wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 6:50 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:42 am
It is likely our genetics [a matter of fact] may have a very big influence on our moral competences?
So what? :?
The 'What' is, people like Peter Holmes and his likes insist morality cannot be objective, i.e. they dogmatically view morality from a narrow perspective based opinions, beliefs and judgments of rightness or wrongness.
Note this What could make morality objective?
viewtopic.php?f=8&t=24601

In contrast I believe Morality is objective and based on a matter of fact, i.e. reducible to genes and definitely neural algorithms that activate moral elements.

Therefrom;
1. All human acts & thoughts [including moral] can be drilled down to body organs, proteins, amino acids, genes and DNA and influenced by epigenetics and environmental factors.
2. All of morality is related to human acts and thoughts.
3. When we understand how 1 works factually then we can improve on humanity's average moral quotient.

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 5:03 am
by Veritas Aequitas
Impenitent wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 7:04 pm if it due to your genetics, you had no choice in the matter...
-Imp
Note I wrote above;
1. All human acts & thoughts [including morality] can be drilled down to body organs, proteins, amino acids, genes and DNA and influenced by epigenetics and environmental factors.

That is the point with morality being grounded [most possibly] on genetics, thus morality is grounded on a matter of fact, so, it morality is objective.

Morality means the natural moral drive is express via the genes to actions without conscious deliberation. If morality is all about good why do we need to make a choice with it.

When one make a choice to act 'morally' that is not morality proper.
For example, if a psychopath has a strong sense to kill but held back because he is likely be caught, that is not natural morality.

If say, you, had never in your life any impulse to kill anyone, that would be morality [one aspect] at work naturally and probably that is because you have good genes and other related elements.

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 6:45 am
by Impenitent
and if you do kill, you had no choice in the matter because your genes made you do it

moral responsibility for something you had no choice in doing

-Imp

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 11:55 am
by Harbal
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:47 am
The 'What' is, people like Peter Holmes and his likes insist morality cannot be objective, i.e. they dogmatically view morality from a narrow perspective based opinions, beliefs and judgments of rightness or wrongness.


In contrast I believe Morality is objective and based on a matter of fact, i.e. reducible to genes and definitely neural algorithms that activate moral elements.
But our moral values and judgements are subjective; no two people have exactly the same collection of them. Human beings having a sense of morality may be an objective fact, but the practice of morality is a subjective exercise. Do you disagree with this?

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:55 pm
by FlashDangerpants
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:41 am
How Your Genes Influence Your Favorite Foods
https://www.verywellhealth.com/genetics ... dy-6504116
A new study suggests that our taste preferences might be more linked to our genes than previously thought.
Brain-related factors might also play a role, especially for people who prefer high-calorie foods.
Understanding that our taste preferences are not completely under our control can help us make healthy choices that foster a satisfying, positive relationship with food.
Genes are a matter of fact.

Morality?
There's nothing "right" or "true" or "good" about having a genetic disposition to enjoy high fat, salt and sugar content in your food.

You can't turn an is into a yum any more than you can turn it into an ought because facts and values don't convert that way.

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:03 pm
by Impenitent
FlashDangerpants wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 3:55 pm
Veritas Aequitas wrote: Thu Dec 22, 2022 10:41 am
How Your Genes Influence Your Favorite Foods
https://www.verywellhealth.com/genetics ... dy-6504116
A new study suggests that our taste preferences might be more linked to our genes than previously thought.
Brain-related factors might also play a role, especially for people who prefer high-calorie foods.
Understanding that our taste preferences are not completely under our control can help us make healthy choices that foster a satisfying, positive relationship with food.
Genes are a matter of fact.

Morality?
There's nothing "right" or "true" or "good" about having a genetic disposition to enjoy high fat, salt and sugar content in your food.

You can't turn an is into a yum any more than you can turn it into an ought because facts and values don't convert that way.
but turning an is into yummy yams ought to be factually valued...

errant thoughts...

-Imp

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:10 pm
by Impenitent
genetics are responsible for an individual's allergies...

when one sneezes at morality, is it genetically influenced?

-Imp

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:43 pm
by Walker
Impenitent wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:10 pm genetics are responsible for an individual's allergies...

when one sneezes at morality, is it genetically influenced?

-Imp
I've heard there are folks who say that if you have an allergy, then God is Evil for making you suffer.

Oh yes. There are people who think that. They walk amongst us.

They are usually the people of the Ilk who don't believe in God, and of course that is their way of mocking those who do believe in God in the way that God believers think that God must be believed in. Uh huh.

*

Oh wait ... this is not The God Thread? My mistake. :roll:

We must keep God properly slotted, for those so concerned. The only question is, do we slot God into the "fragment file," or the "whole file"?

Relativists insist on the fragment file.

Re: Genes Influenced Food Preferences; Morality?

Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:54 pm
by Harbal
Walker wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:43 pm
Impenitent wrote: Fri Dec 23, 2022 4:10 pm genetics are responsible for an individual's allergies...

when one sneezes at morality, is it genetically influenced?

-Imp
I've heard there are folks who say that if you have an allergy, then God is Evil for making you suffer.

Oh yes. There are people who think that. They walk amongst us.

They are usually the people of the Ilk who don't believe in God, and of course that is their way of mocking those who do believe in God in the way that God believers think that God must be believed in. Uh huh.
You have obviously just made that up. Idiot!