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Cycle of deeds

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:29 am
by dattaswami
Let us look at the effects of each of the four factors one by one. (1) The fruits of a soul’s actions in the previous births have already been enjoyed by the soul in heaven and hell, before the present human birth. However, when the soul is reborn on earth, the basic psychology of the soul, which is made of the soul’s individual qualities (vāsanās or saṃskāras), is not destroyed. It continues in the new birth too.

That basic psychology of the individual gets destroyed only by the spiritual knowledge given by the divine preacher or the Sadguru. Śaṅkara says that these vāsanās get almost exhausted and reduced to a seed-form, after enjoying their respective fruits in the upper worlds, but they do not get destroyed.

In every new birth, they germinate and grow as the soul reborn on earth as a human being grows into an adult. However, spiritual knowledge is like the fire that permanently burns these seeds, so that they cannot germinate again. These vāsanās following the soul in seed-form are called the ‘remainder of action (karma śeṣa)’.

Actually, the vāsanas are the ‘effect’ or the fruit of the person’s action. But the effect (vāsanā) can be called by the name of the cause (karma), just as a golden ornament can be called gold. Interestingly, the vāsanā (quality in seed-form) is also the cause for future karma (deed) and this results in an infinite cycle of deeds called the karma cakra.
This remainder of action (karma śeṣa) from the previous births is responsible for our actions in the present birth. It provokes the soul to act in certain ways, as the soul grows. It remains silent as long as the soul is in childhood. That is why we misunderstand children to be reflections of God.
Actually, the seeds of their qualities are yet to germinate and hence they are not noticeable. Children are actually silent bombs waiting to explode as they grow out of childhood and reach adulthood! The seeds of their qualities germinate and become big trees as the children grow into adults. The external atmosphere around the child promotes the growth of the corresponding qualities.

When a thief is released from the police station after third degree torture, he behaves like a gentleman for sometime. His tendency to steal has been reduced to seed-form. But upon associating with thieves, the seed of the tendency to steal grows into a huge tree again!
(2) The soul’s actions done in the present birth are the direct causes of the good or bad fruits that the soul enjoys in the present life. This is because, it is actual action alone that directly produces the fruit, even though the seed of that action might be from previous births. (3) The planetary arrangement at the time of birth is not responsible for the actions of the soul. Actually, the reverse is true.

The actions done by a soul cause the planets to move into certain positions in order to deliver the fruits of the actions to the soul. People think that since Saturn has entered the 8th house of the person’s astrological chart, the person faced such and such a bad result. The fact is that since the person had done a bad deed and the fruit of the bad deed was to be given to the soul at that time, Saturn moved into the 8th place in the chart.

(4) The bad fruits to be received by the parents and the child are sometimes made to coincide, at a particular time. Here three separate punishments are to be given to three different souls. God makes such three sinful souls to be born as parents and the child. When the child is punished, the parents also are pained.

After all, pain is the essence of punishment. Here, by giving pain to one, the other two are also pained. This is hitting three birds in one shot! This is the talented administration of God! People misunderstand the situation, thinking that the child was punished for the sin of the parents or that the sin of the parents affects their issues. This is due to the lack of deep spiritual knowledge.

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:34 am
by Walker
Swami, I can't read all that!

Please be kind enough to give me 50 good words, because you have much to say and I want to hear.

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:07 am
by dattaswami
Walker wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:34 am Swami, I can't read all that!

Please be kind enough to give me 50 good words, because you have much to say and I want to hear.
As per cycle of deeds, for any deed there is reward or fruit. For good deeds happiness for bad deeds misery. Even misery is for the reformation of the soul only so that it do not repeat the sinful deeds and do not disturb the peace of the world. If one realize, repent and do not repeat any sins from today onwards all your past sins will be forgiven by God. This is the promise of God to us.
Following sinful deeds shall be stopped at any cost:
1. Illegal sex
2. Corruption of money
3. Killing living beings for food
4. Ego and jealosy
5. Violence

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:47 am
by Walker
dattaswami wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:07 am
Walker wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:34 am Swami, I can't read all that!

Please be kind enough to give me 50 good words, because you have much to say and I want to hear.
As per cycle of deeds, for any deed there is reward or fruit. For good deeds happiness for bad deeds misery. Even misery is for the reformation of the soul only so that it do not repeat the sinful deeds and do not disturb the peace of the world. If one realize, repent and do not repeat any sins from today onwards all your past sins will be forgiven by God. This is the promise of God to us.
Following sinful deeds shall be stopped at any cost:
1. Illegal sex
2. Corruption of money
3. Killing living beings for food
4. Ego and jealosy
5. Violence
#1. Illegal sex.

Question: Does the term "illegal sex" refer to sexual intercourse of any kind, outside of a marriage? Marriage defined as the consecrated relationship between one man and one woman, consecrated before God, mortal witnesses, and society.

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:59 pm
by dattaswami
Walker wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:47 am
dattaswami wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:07 am
Walker wrote: Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:34 am Swami, I can't read all that!

Please be kind enough to give me 50 good words, because you have much to say and I want to hear.
As per cycle of deeds, for any deed there is reward or fruit. For good deeds happiness for bad deeds misery. Even misery is for the reformation of the soul only so that it do not repeat the sinful deeds and do not disturb the peace of the world. If one realize, repent and do not repeat any sins from today onwards all your past sins will be forgiven by God. This is the promise of God to us.
Following sinful deeds shall be stopped at any cost:
1. Illegal sex
2. Corruption of money
3. Killing living beings for food
4. Ego and jealosy
5. Violence
#1. Illegal sex.

Question: Does the term "illegal sex" refer to sexual intercourse of any kind, outside of a marriage? Marriage defined as the consecrated relationship between one man and one woman, consecrated before God, mortal witnesses, and society.
Illegal sex means sex outside of marriage...it is grave sin...

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:10 am
by Walker
# 2. Corruption of money.

Question:

2a - Is this asserting that corrupt deeds are required to get money?
2b - Is this asserting that buying any vice corrupts money?
2c - Love of money is an attachment to money. The love of money can replace compassion, however, compassion is not an attachment. Therefore, is replacing compassion with self-centered love of money, the corruption of money?
2d - Inflation caused by Brandon corrupts money by making it worth less. This is corruption of money, but likely not the meaning in this context.
- If neither 2a, 2b, or 2c, or all three are not corruption of money, then what is corruption of money?

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 1:44 am
by dattaswami
Walker wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 12:10 am # 2. Corruption of money.

Question:

2a - Is this asserting that corrupt deeds are required to get money?
2b - Is this asserting that buying any vice corrupts money?
2c - Love of money is an attachment to money. The love of money can replace compassion, however, compassion is not an attachment. Therefore, is replacing compassion with self-centered love of money, the corruption of money?
2d - Inflation caused by Brandon corrupts money by making it worth less. This is corruption of money, but likely not the meaning in this context.
- If neither 2a, 2b, or 2c, or all three are not corruption of money, then what is corruption of money?
2a. if you get money by justified means it is not sin
2b. using money if we buy alcohol or drugs it is a also a wasting money only even it is our hard earned money
2c. Hard earned money is not a sin. But over attachment to money is the issue. By which people do corruption to earn extra money which is a sin.
2d. Corruption of money means earning money through illegal ways.


The money of the public is the wealth of the public, which should be spent for public only giving priority to the poor people.

This public money is very sacred and should not be enjoyed personally by any well-to-do person, unless he/she is extremely poor dying for food. One has to save the life even by doing the sin. In such a case, the sin is not a sin at all. Apart from this extreme condition, any attempt to steal the public money for the enjoyment of self and own family is the greatest sin. If one has livelihood already blessed by God, he/she should see the public money as the excretory matter.

Nobody likes even to look at the excretory matter and in such case, there is no chance of any one to eat the excretory matter and to live always in the excretory matter itself! Therefore, everybody having the minimum needs satisfied should see the public money like excretion. Nobody should even look at the public money and not to speak of the thought to enjoy it.

Anybody, who does the corruption of public money, will born as pig eating the excretion. More serious corruption of public money gives the birth of worms living in the excretion itself. You may argue that such enjoyment of excretion by pigs and worms need not be taken as the punishment because the pigs and worms enjoy the excretion like a human being enjoying a good feast. The ignorance of the previous birth of the soul as human being should make the soul to enjoy the excretion like a human being enjoying delicious food.

The excretion for the pig should be like the delicious meal for an ordinary hungry person, if the ignorance of the previous birth masks the soul. This is correct if the pig is unaware of its previous birth. But, the actual fact is totally different since the pig or the worm eating the excretion is given the memory of the previous birth always by the will of God. Now, the soul realizes the difference between delicious food and wretched excretion and is pained deeply with full repentance being forced by the power of God to eat the excretion continuously along with the constant memory of the previous birth.

Such a mental torture brings some realization in the soul at least after some births. This will bring a powerful change and thus the punishment is only to bring a significant change in the soul and not to revenge against the soul for its sin. The punishment involves lot of internally hidden technique so that the punishment is only for the transformation of the soul and not for the revenge. This horrible punishment is considered to be the climax of the list of punishments. The soul subjected to such terrible punishment is almost sure not to return to the human birth again.

The question asked by you was exactly expressed by Me to Lord Dattatreya about ten years back. The Lord gave the above reply, which is presented here word by word. The Lord also showed Me the vision of such births, which showed the corrupt people on the left side and their souls becoming pigs and worms eating and dwelling in the excretion on the right side. I was so much irritated by that ghastly vision and suffered with illness for a long time, which was based on allergy.

The illness was so serious increasing day by day and I thought that My death was very near. That wretched vision came to My brain again and again. Then, I prayed the Lord for protection through several prayers. The Lord appeared and touched Me with both hands from top to bottom smiling and saying that the answer is so as the question is. The Lord said that His knowledge is always characterized by the foremost quality called as truth as said in the Veda (Satyam, Jnanam...). Truth cannot be altered since it is harsh.

I did not reveal this topic till now thinking that I should not harm the health of anybody. But, the Lord is forcing Me from inside to reveal the truth as revealed by Him to Me in the past. Since I cannot resist the force of the Lord, I am revealing. The Lord also says the reason for His force. The Lord says that the reason is that today the corruption for money spread even an atomic area of the creation. You also asked Me this question by His will only. We both are like the two sides of the drum alternatively beaten by the two hands of the Lord.

Today, you made Me to expose the highest secret so far hidden by Me. The Lord also asks Me that this message should be translated into every language of the world and a print of this message should be kept on the notice board of the office of every public servant from top to bottom level. If anybody is affected by the allergy, I advise him to use the anti-allergic medicines immediately. I am extremely sorry for revealing this truth and I ask for the apology from everybody.

Re: Cycle of deeds

Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:55 am
by Walker
Interesting content about #2.

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# 3 Killing living beings for food.

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