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If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:53 pm
by Eodnhoj7
If everything is a contradiction then this truth is not contradictory and a contradiction ensues because not everything is a contradiction, this is a further contradiction.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:55 pm
by Walker
Contradictions only exist as thoughts, as distinct from things.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:35 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:55 pm
Contradictions only exist as thoughts, as distinct from things.
Thoughts are things as thoughts are distinctions just as things are distinctions.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:19 am
by Walker
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:55 pm
Contradictions only exist as thoughts, as distinct from things.
Thoughts are things as thoughts are distinctions just as things are distinctions.
Interesting. Only the physical exists.
Physicalities differ. The wind is physical yet distinct in characteristics from grosser physicalities. Thoughts are more subtle than a zephyr and have different characteristics of physicality than say a breeze, or gold.
Thoughts exist and therefore thoughts are physical, however thoughts are of a physicality so subtle that they can only be detected by the mind sense. Thoughts can display on the body in subtle ways and those who know can correlate the gist of thoughts such as sadness, happiness, or lies, with another's physical movements such as eyes and face and even a still posture.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:39 pm
by CHNOPS
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:55 pm
Contradictions only exist as thoughts, as distinct from things.
Thoughts are things as thoughts are distinctions just as things are distinctions.
Yes.
So, when you have Blue-Green-Red pixels, and you talk about "quantity of being a pixel", that is just a thought you made, a description you made, and so there is another pixel, for example a Violet pixel.
Therefore, if the simplification of the universe as B-G-R is in order to understand better what else there are in the universe, when you say that there is a unification of that pixels with the "quantity of being a pixel", then you are just saying that in the universe there are only:
Blue, Green, Red and Violet pixels...
I mean, that description, that comparison, if you include it in the knowledge of the origin of the universe, then, you are just expanding what the origin is, from 3 pixels to 4 pixels...
Now, if you say that Blue, Green, Red and Violet are "unify as one", then again, you are just creating another new pixel...
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:15 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:19 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:55 pm
Contradictions only exist as thoughts, as distinct from things.
Thoughts are things as thoughts are distinctions just as things are distinctions.
Interesting. Only the physical exists.
Physicalities differ. The wind is physical yet distinct in characteristics from grosser physicalities. Thoughts are more subtle than a zephyr and have different characteristics of physicality than say a breeze, or gold.
Thoughts exist and therefore thoughts are physical, however thoughts are of a physicality so subtle that they can only be detected by the mind sense. Thoughts can display on the body in subtle ways and those who know can correlate the gist of thoughts such as sadness, happiness, or lies, with another's physical movements such as eyes and face and even a still posture.
That is one way of viewing it. However food for thought leads us to the question of "what is the physical?" since it has no comparison but itself.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 10:17 pm
by Eodnhoj7
CHNOPS wrote: ↑Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:39 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:35 pm
Walker wrote: ↑Fri Oct 07, 2022 12:55 pm
Contradictions only exist as thoughts, as distinct from things.
Thoughts are things as thoughts are distinctions just as things are distinctions.
Yes.
So, when you have Blue-Green-Red pixels, and you talk about "quantity of being a pixel", that is just a thought you made, a description you made, and so there is another pixel, for example a Violet pixel.
Therefore, if the simplification of the universe as B-G-R is in order to understand better what else there are in the universe, when you say that there is a unification of that pixels with the "quantity of being a pixel", then you are just saying that in the universe there are only:
Blue, Green, Red and Violet pixels...
I mean, that description, that comparison, if you include it in the knowledge of the origin of the universe, then, you are just expanding what the origin is, from 3 pixels to 4 pixels...
Now, if you say that Blue, Green, Red and Violet are "unify as one", then again, you are just creating another new pixel...
And yet all is reducible to "pixel" thus leaving the pixel without distinction. To say that "all is mind" leaves us only with a mind that has no comparison thus is void of characteristics.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:47 pm
by CHNOPS
Yes.
And if you only focus on things.. on thoughts... then there is no contradiction.
The contradiction appears when we talk about this "mind", this "everything" like if it is a thing.
The contradiction is just in ours ignorance of doing that, not in reality.
In reality, there is no such a "mind". Because reality is "all the THINGS".
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:47 pm
by Eodnhoj7
CHNOPS wrote: ↑Tue Oct 18, 2022 4:47 pm
Yes.
And if you only focus on things.. on thoughts... then there is no contradiction.
The contradiction appears when we talk about this "mind", this "everything" like if it is a thing.
The contradiction is just in ours ignorance of doing that, not in reality.
In reality, there is no such a "mind". Because reality is "all the THINGS".
Mind is a thing as mind is a distinction and distinctions are things.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:24 am
by CHNOPS
The contradiction appears when we talk about this "mind", this "everything" like if it is a thing.
The contradiction is just in ours ignorance of doing that, not in reality.
The problem is saying "mind" as if it is something else than the thoughts.
There are only thoughts. There is no thing like "mind".
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:39 pm
by Eodnhoj7
CHNOPS wrote: ↑Tue Oct 25, 2022 12:24 am
The contradiction appears when we talk about this "mind", this "everything" like if it is a thing.
The contradiction is just in ours ignorance of doing that, not in reality.
The problem is saying "mind" as if it is something else than the thoughts.
There are only thoughts. There is no thing like "mind".
Mind is a thought.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:54 pm
by Age
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:53 pm
If everything is a contradiction then this truth is not contradictory and a contradiction ensues because not everything is a contradiction, this is a further contradiction.
Not everything is a contradiction, therefore the rest is moot.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:47 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Age wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:54 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:53 pm
If everything is a contradiction then this truth is not contradictory and a contradiction ensues because not everything is a contradiction, this is a further contradiction.
Not everything is a contradiction, therefore the rest is moot.
To speak of everything is a contradiction given everything contrasts only to itself thus leaving it as beyond the senses.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:09 am
by Age
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:47 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:54 pm
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 04, 2022 8:53 pm
If everything is a contradiction then this truth is not contradictory and a contradiction ensues because not everything is a contradiction, this is a further contradiction.
Not everything is a contradiction, therefore the rest is moot.
To speak of everything is a contradiction given everything contrasts only to itself thus leaving it as beyond the senses.
But it is NOT beyond the senses when the senses are observing/experiencing the distinction between Everything and EVERY thing.
Re: If Everything is a Contradiction....
Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:42 pm
by Eodnhoj7
Age wrote: ↑Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:09 am
Eodnhoj7 wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 11:47 pm
Age wrote: ↑Wed Oct 26, 2022 10:54 pm
Not everything is a contradiction, therefore the rest is moot.
To speak of everything is a contradiction given everything contrasts only to itself thus leaving it as beyond the senses.
But it is NOT beyond the senses when the senses are observing/experiencing the distinction between Everything and EVERY thing.
Both "Everything" and "EVERY thing" share the same quality of distinction, ie individuality, thus are connected.