Philosophy Now Forum

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:32 am Sanctuary

“We are not a sanctuary state, and it’s better to go to a sanctuary jurisdiction, and yes, we will help facilitate that transport for you to go to greener pastures. Biden would fly people in the middle of the night, dump them all across this country. There was no warning on any of this. And all those people in DC and New York were beating their chest when Trump was president saying they were so proud to be sanctuary jurisdictions, saying how bad it was to have a secure border.”
- Governor Ron DeSantis, Florida

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:43 am

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:16 pm Now philo believes that my ongoing attack on conservatives leads to...
his words, not mine

my apologies wrong post.. I'll try to get up the right post..

and yet, what he fails to understand is that the "us vs them" has already
been created by the right...the right has already created the "us vs them"
mentality...the only question now is how does the left respond?

I am supposed to overlook such conservative evil by looking away..
for example, not one but two GOP/conservative governors have
falsely promised immigrants jobs and a better life and illegally
transported them to Ny or Kamala Harris house in DC, or even
weirder, to Martha Vinyard... and why? just to make political
points with the insane right wing..
remember, both governors in question are serious GOP candidates
for President.. of Texas and Florida....
but for some reason, Philo wants me to ignore this act of evil
to allow some sort of spirit of peace between the GOP and Dems...
but hay, we saw how well appeasement worked for the Jews
in the thirties and how well it worked in Europe in the thirties...
the result was the Holocaust and World War 2...
excellent examples of "giving peace a chance"

Having delt with bullies all my life, I can say with certainty,
that the proper response to these GOV and with IQ45 and the
GOP/MAGA crowd... is to swiftly and firmly smack them in
the nose and promise more beat downs if they ever pull that
shit again.... that is the only way to defeat the violent right wing..
see Jan 6 2021 for examples of the violence of the far right..

but hay, let us take a more recent example....
someone on Twitter? I guess, posted a fact story about
how a hospital in Boston was preforming quote
"Life affirming hysterectomies" on children
the post even had fake doctors saying this..
and based on this, a women in Mass phoned in
a bomb threat to this hospital.. and other violent
right wing extremist jumped on this "news"
promising "action", which is just another word for violence,
against this hospital..

and what shall we do in the face of this lunacy?
hope and pray that the conservatives/MAGA crowd
comes to their senses? play nice in the hopes they don't
engage in any more actions that dehumanizes and violates
people right to respect and dignity..

I have practiced non-violence my whole life, except once
when some clown threatened a women life right in front of me,
yes, I could have done what philo suggests and hope
and pray that he didn't hurt her or try to be reasonable,
but given my choices, I fought him in the middle of a very busy
street.. he was much bigger than me, but I was able to even it
by being very, very vicious...the fight broke even...
and given my choices, I would do the exact same thing today...
even though that fight was 25 years ago or so...

At times we are only left with the choice of action against
evil...and we cannot be afraid of that choice because
of fear...

so yes, I say we fight them with every resource we have...

Kropotkin

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 1:17 pm

Walker wrote: ↑Sat Sep 17, 2022 8:43 am

K: Evidence for this is?

Kropotkin

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 16, 2022 8:16 pm and yet, what he fails to understand is that the "us vs them" has already
been created by the right...the right has already created the "us vs them"
mentality...the only question now is how does the left respond?
Kropotkin