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In thinking about it, what is the primary activity of human beings?

We do engage in our pursuit of our needs, bodily, psychologically,
emotionally, mentally and spiritually.... but that isn't what we really
spend our days and night doing...what we do has different names,
we study history and philosophy and science and biology and we
engage in economic and religions... but what do all these
"Separate" isms and activities have in common?

Each of these activities, each of these disciplines have something
in common..... they are attempts to explain the world, to understand
the world, to explain the meaning and purpose of human existence..
we spend our time, our days and nights, trying to understand what
it means to be human....

if we look deep enough, we can see something of the human condition
in every action and belief, we do and hold... for example, let us take
football as an example.. football is a game we played as kids and some
of us continue to play as adults.. for many of us, we still watch football
as adults... but if you look into it, you must ask yourself why?
why do we watch football even as an adult?

The answer is that we human beings are, as part of the human condition,
engage in play...... we playact, we watch plays, we watch children's games
like football and Baseball and we play cards and play video games and we
play games like Chess and monopoly... one working definition of being
human is "a creature that plays"..... to play is to be human....

So what else is part of the human condition?

we attempt through study, reading, writing to make sense of this
creature we call human...and the world we live in... and science
and history and economics and biology and philosophy are just a means
to explain what it means to be human.....ism's and ideologies are just
another means to explain and understand ourselves and the world we
live in... Capitalism is just a theory about what it means
to be human and it is an explanation of human beings and the world
we live in.....capitalism and communism and monarchies are explanations
about what it means to be human and the world around us...capitalism is
just an explanation of the human condition...

and that is what us human beings do... we attempt to explain
the world around us and the human condition through such
explanations as capitalism and communism and democracies...
and within history and biology and philosophy and economics...

our primary activity as human beings is to explain and understand
what is the human condition and how we explore the human condition
through such activities as our study of history, biology, science, philosophy..etc, etc...

our primary activity is seeking an explanation of what it means to be human...

and then the interesting part, what will we do when we have discovered, explained
what the human condition means and what are our possibilities as human beings?

in other words, we are not at the end of the human research into what the human
condition is, no, we are just at the beginning of our journey into the human condition...
because what is the next step after, after we have finished with our exploration
of the human condition? What shall we do next?

Kropotkin

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:01 pm in other words, we are not at the end of the human research into what the human
condition is, no, we are just at the beginning of our journey into the human condition...
because what is the next step after, after we have finished with our exploration
of the human condition? What shall we do next?

Kropotkin

As an individual, become a sage and live for as long as entropy permits.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:05 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:01 pm in other words, we are not at the end of the human research into what the human
condition is, no, we are just at the beginning of our journey into the human condition...
because what is the next step after, after we have finished with our exploration
of the human condition? What shall we do next?

Kropotkin

As an individual, become a sage and live for as long as entropy permits.

K: becoming a sage to what end? living a long time to what end?
I am interested in the why, not in the how..

Kropotkin

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:22 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:05 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:01 pm in other words, we are not at the end of the human research into what the human
condition is, no, we are just at the beginning of our journey into the human condition...
because what is the next step after, after we have finished with our exploration
of the human condition? What shall we do next?

Kropotkin

As an individual, become a sage and live for as long as entropy permits.

K: becoming a sage to what end? living a long time to what end?
I am interested in the why, not in the how..

Kropotkin

Well I've given you the how in the other thread re attributes of God. I must say a very disappointing reply to all the effort I put in to address each of your points - tad busy - EPL football about to kick off, so will address that later!

RE: Why become a sage? - Freedom from ever suffering, freedom to experience all this world has to offer. Not having your knowledge wiped when having to be reincarnated, and the ability to learn as the world progresses around you. A lot more interesting than a stunted life and death.

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:31 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:22 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:05 pm

As an individual, become a sage and live for as long as entropy permits.

K: becoming a sage to what end? living a long time to what end?
I am interested in the why, not in the how..

Kropotkin

Well I've given you the how in the other thread re attributes of God. I must say a very disappointing reply to all the effort I put in to address each of your points - tad busy - EPL football about to kick off, so will address that later!

RE: Why become a sage? - Freedom from ever suffering, freedom to experience all this world has to offer. Not having your knowledge wiped when having to be reincarnated, and the ability to learn as the world progresses around you. A lot more interesting than a stunted life and death.

K: and once again, engaging in fanciful assumptions.. it is an assumption that
we are reincarnated, and that becoming a sage allows one the freedom to
escape suffering or to experience all this world has to offer.. and that becoming
a sage is actually more interesting that, and this is also an assumption,
that anything other than being a sage or in believing in god allows one
to escape leading a "stunted life and death".. all I see in your response
is a series of assumptions...

Kropotkin

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:26 pm

attofishpi wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:31 pm

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:22 pm

K: becoming a sage to what end? living a long time to what end?
I am interested in the why, not in the how..

Kropotkin

Well I've given you the how in the other thread re attributes of God. I must say a very disappointing reply to all the effort I put in to address each of your points - tad busy - EPL football about to kick off, so will address that later!

RE: Why become a sage? - Freedom from ever suffering, freedom to experience all this world has to offer. Not having your knowledge wiped when having to be reincarnated, and the ability to learn as the world progresses around you. A lot more interesting than a stunted life and death.

K: and once again, engaging in fanciful assumptions.. it is an assumption that
we are reincarnated, and that becoming a sage allows one the freedom to
escape suffering

No it's not - the omnipotent intelligence behind reality has a sage more powerful than a Jedi! - we don't need weapons in our Earth heaven.

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:26 pm or to experience all this world has to offer.. and that becoming
a sage is actually more interesting that, and this is also an assumption,
that anything other than being a sage or in believing in god allows one
to escape leading a "stunted life and death".. all I see in your response
is a series of assumptions...

And yet you refuse to refute what you perceive as assumptions where I gave you the opportunity:
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=35579&p=593246#p593246

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:01 pm In thinking about it, what is the primary activity of human beings?

Looking at porn, cute kittens and funny dogs on the Internet.

PS....

And watching videos like this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjnPpxMx5Wk

Peter Kropotkin wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 7:01 pm our primary activity is seeking an explanation of what it means to be human...

Our primary activity is not cerebral at all, despite the examples given.

The primary human activity is, and must be, survival: protection and safety, nourishment and creation of a newer generation.

Mans ultimate quest.

For years man has strived facing adversity, learning...maths, physics, chemistry...to build a TV. But that was not the end goal of mans quest, he continued building, invented computers ever faster, devices that would connect to the TV, and still the quest has been unfulfilled, but he strode forward, accepting greater challenges in the pursuit of the ultimate goal.
The computers were connected together by a thing called the internet..man could feel it was getting within reach, one day the quest would be fulfilled, he searched he shared, feeling soon, finally the end of his quest would be reached, one day all his challenges overcome, one day the quest for the only reason that he endeavored to learn all he could that reality had to offer...he finally was blessed, fulfilled. From the interconnected technology that man had strived to create for the only purpose of science....porn.
He sat down on a quiet Sunday morning realising he had found the ultimate porn video that could ever satisfy his insatiable lust for female anatomy...only to find after half an hour, that it was his daughter sucking the bearded clam of his ex wife.