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to grok Causality

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:22 pm
by Advocate
Causality is just another way to say "the arrow of change".

That change happens to occur certain ways rather than others is what science exists to index.

Causality is infinite in all directions, at all scales, forever. When anything moves an inch to the right, everything else in the universe moves an inch to the left (on average). Think of infinite marbles in an infinite fishbowl, without the bowl.

Re: to grok Causality

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2022 10:19 pm
by Walker
Long before butterfly wing beats can stir the other side of the planet, their tiny hurricanes are swallowed by chaos.

Re: to grok Causality

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 3:40 am
by Advocate
[quote=Walker post_id=587275 time=1659302393 user_id=11599]
Long before butterfly wing beats can stir the other side of the planet, their tiny hurricanes are swallowed by chaos.
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We exist in the ignorance gap between chaos and causality. To the extent we do not understand causality we feel free. To the extent we can not understand causality we feel anxiety.

Re: to grok Causality

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 12:15 pm
by Walker
Every cause has an effect.
Every effect has a cause.
Every cause becomes an effect.
Every effect becomes a cause.

An effect is not a cause.

Re: to grok Causality

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 1:15 pm
by Harbal
Advocate wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 6:22 pm Think of infinite marbles in an infinite fishbowl, without the bowl.
I've gone one step further; I am now thinking about it without the marbles.

Re: to grok Causality

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:28 pm
by Advocate
[quote=Harbal post_id=587404 time=1659356137 user_id=9107]
[quote=Advocate post_id=586997 time=1659201769 user_id=15238]
Think of infinite marbles in an infinite fishbowl, without the bowl.
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I've gone one step further; I am now thinking about it without the marbles.
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Now try dropping the thinking. :)

Re: to grok Causality

Posted: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:59 pm
by Harbal
Advocate wrote: Mon Aug 01, 2022 5:28 pm
Now try dropping the thinking. :)
Well said. :)