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a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Fri May 06, 2022 3:57 am
by Advocate
knowledge = the concurrence/intersection/conjunction of evidence
All of those do a good job, but i think concurrence does the best work.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Sat May 07, 2022 12:04 am
by Impenitent
concurrence? swimming with the stream is easier...
-Imp
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Sun May 08, 2022 11:57 pm
by popeye1945
Experience is knowledge.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 6:45 pm
by trokanmariel
A definition, of knowledge:
The bridge, that runs from spirituality's long con, of responsibility-mutual meaning/producing the deflection of help from independence to independence (in which the independence to independence permission to responsibility-mutual is comprised of the independence's political ambition for definition), to the Monica Potter/Alex Cross (a top down spirituality building, of Potter's baiting spirituality for physics (a manifestation, of term combos of actual v actual physics) to Cross's long as commander).
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:48 pm
by Iwannaplato
Advocate wrote: ↑Fri May 06, 2022 3:57 am
knowledge = the concurrence/intersection/conjunction of evidence
All of those do a good job, but i think concurrence does the best work.
concurrance of evidence with other evidence? So plural instances of evidence.
Or concurrance of evidence with something else?
There are other ways to use that word, also, so I am looking for clarification.
Intersection would raise the same kind of questions for me. As would conjunction.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:50 pm
by Iwannaplato
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 11:57 pm
Experience is knowledge.
So, if you are older than someone, and thus have more experience, are you necessarily more knowledgeable?
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:56 pm
by popeye1945
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:50 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 11:57 pm
Experience is knowledge.
So, if you are older than someone, and thus have more experience, are you necessarily more knowledgeable?
Iwannaplato,
Old age does not guarantee knowledge volume or wisdom, experiencing is simply gaining knowledge of the world.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:03 pm
by Iwannaplato
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:56 pm
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 7:50 pm
popeye1945 wrote: ↑Sun May 08, 2022 11:57 pm
Experience is knowledge.
So, if you are older than someone, and thus have more experience, are you necessarily more knowledgeable?
Iwannaplato,
Old age does not guarantee knowledge volume or wisdom, experiencing is simply gaining knowledge of the world.
So, if you are older, you have more knowledge of the world than the ones you are older than? Can we say that 30 year olds have more knowledge of the world than 29 year olds?
You mention that old age does not guarantee knowledge volume, but if experience is knowledge than why not?
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:04 pm
by iambiguous
Sure, it's important that we are all more rather than less on the same page regarding what we claim to know is true.
But my own main interest in definitions revolves more around the extent to which we can take our own out into the world of actual human interactions. In particular, those interactions that come into conflict given, in turn, how the definitions we give to the words we use to explain and then to defend our moral and political value judgments come into conflict.
Thus, pertaining to this, how would one apply this definition...
"knowledge = the concurrence/intersection/conjunction of evidence"
...to a moral or political conflagration most here are likely to be familiar with?
Of course, if this is just a "technical" discussion then...never mind.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:25 pm
by bahman
Knowledge is the coherence observed in the events.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:26 pm
by Iwannaplato
bahman wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 8:25 pm
Knowledge is the coherence observed in the events.
So, if the events have coherence a mind knows something?
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 8:30 pm
by bahman
Iwannaplato wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 8:26 pm
bahman wrote: ↑Tue May 24, 2022 8:25 pm
Knowledge is the coherence observed in the events.
So, if the events have coherence a mind knows something?
If mind observes it then yes, mind knows something.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:49 am
by popeye1945
[/quote] So, if you are older, you have more knowledge of the world than the ones you are older than? Can we say that 30 year olds have more knowledge of the world than 29 year olds?You mention that old age does not guarantee knowledge volume, but if experience is knowledge than why not? [/quote]
Iwannaplato,
One person can have greater or lesser intelligence than the average and even intelligence is not a guarantee of wisdom. Also, some people have a much wider range of experiences than others inferring greater levels of knowledge.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 6:40 am
by Advocate
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knowledge = the concurrence/intersection/conjunction of evidence
All of those do a good job, but i think concurrence does the best work.
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concurrance of evidence with other evidence? So plural instances of evidence.
Or concurrance of evidence with something else?
There are other ways to use that word, also, so I am looking for clarification.
Intersection would raise the same kind of questions for me. As would conjunction.
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Yes Whatever is most centrally indicated by all available evidence, that's truth, knowledge, whatever, as close as we can get. I looked up the words and i reckon they're all good enough for most purposes.
Re: a new definition of knowledge
Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:21 pm
by Walker
Iwannaplato wrote:
So, if you are older, you have more knowledge of the world than the ones you are older than? Can we say that 30 year olds have more knowledge of the world than 29 year olds?You mention that old age does not guarantee knowledge volume, but if experience is knowledge than why not?
popeye1945 wrote:Iwannaplato,
One person can have greater or lesser intelligence than the average and even intelligence is not a guarantee of wisdom. Also, some people have a much wider range of experiences than others inferring greater levels of knowledge.
- Accurate knowledge consists of
remembered inferences that have been validated by either first-hand experience or by another first-hander.
- Wisdom consists of accurate
current inferences that solve a problem.
- Wisdom requires knowing the root of all problems.
- Self-cherishing lies at the root of every problem.
- Solomon likely knew, through accurate conclusions made from observation, that in principle a mother feels no separation from her child.
- A mother cherishes her child, as she cherishes herself.
- Concern for her child, is actually self-cherishing.
- Everyone self-cherishes when facing the final arbiter, with no more reasonable or emotional appeals to be heard.
- Solomon’s Wisdom* overcomes objections by applying accurate knowledge to reveal truth, within the context of a situation’s elemental relationships, such as that between the element of child and the element of mother.
* 1 Kings 3:16-28 KJV