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The rule of thumb: You have all rights when it comes to you but you have no right to decide about others. All interpersonal conflicts are due to not respecting the rule of thumb.

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:39 pm

Thanks for your support.

bahman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 3:21 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 2:39 pm

Thanks for your support.

When indisputable fact is laid out, it ought be acknowledged and credit given.

There simply ain't no reasonable, coherent counter to...

You have all rights when it comes to you but you have no right to decide about others.

It is what it is.

And this...

All interpersonal conflicts are due to not respecting the rule of thumb.

...is a clean and factual assessment....can't do no better than that.

hitching a ride isn't a good thing anymore...

-Imp

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:45 am hitching a ride isn't a good thing anymore...

-Imp

it never was

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:54 am

Impenitent wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 1:45 am hitching a ride isn't a good thing anymore...

-Imp

it never was

Why not?

bahman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:10 pm The rule of thumb: You have all rights when it comes to you

Do you BELIEVE you have ALL 'rights' to do what you want to do?

If no, then how does this align with "you have ALL rights when it comes to you"?

bahman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:10 pm but you have no right to decide about others.

So, if you want to breed children do you REALLY believe or accept that you have absolutely NO 'rights' when deciding about them?

If yes, then how does this all work together?

bahman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:10 pm All interpersonal conflicts are due to not respecting the rule of thumb.

Most interpersonal conflicts are just due to NOT understanding one another properly and correctly.

YOUR 'rule of thumb' here does NOT work, well to me anyway.

What about if you decide when it comes to you that you can abuse "others" and pollute their home. Is it really the case that absolutely NO one has a 'right' to decide about 'you'?

Why not?

Cuz you never know what nutjob is behind the wheel. You might hitch 99 times and never have a problem. The 100th time: you end up as maggot chow in a gulley.

bahman wrote: ↑Sat Apr 30, 2022 12:10 pm The rule of thumb: You have all rights when it comes to you but you have no right to decide about others. All interpersonal conflicts are due to not respecting the rule of thumb.

Societal roles give others de facto rights over you. Cops, judges, teachers, DMV clerks, TSA agents, politicians and other government agents, executioners, all have the right granted by society to not only make decisions about you, but to act on those decisions. If you raise a stink and start hollering about your rights, then you need more juice than just truth. This is why folks immediately quick-draw their handy, pocket video cameras.

Cops, judges, teachers, DMV clerks, TSA agents, politicians and other government agents, executioners, all have the right granted by society to not only make decisions about you, but to act on those decisions.

High-diddly-dee, a scofflaw's life for me...

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 5:44 am

Why not?

Cuz you never know what nutjob is behind the wheel. You might hitch 99 times and never have a problem. The 100th time: you end up as maggot chow in a gulley.

The same could be said for going to school, to work, to the pub, or to church. You NEVER know who was/is going to be there, correct?

You might do these things 99 times, ALSO, and never have a problem. But the 100th time, you end up as maggot chow in a gully, AS WELL.

Or, are these somehow DIFFERENT?

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 2:14 pm

all have the right granted by society

The job, then, is gettin' the members of society to relinquish that right, to disavow it...of course, they'll never do that...the fatal tendency is exploited by the finer clay, always...so, if folks won't give up the right to give grief to the other guy, what's the other guy to do?

High-diddly-dee, a scofflaw's life for me...

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What happens when you STEAL "another's" property "henry quirk"? Do "others" have a 'right' to SHOOT you DEAD also?

Age wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 2:18 pm

henry quirk wrote: ↑Sun May 01, 2022 5:44 am

Why not?

Cuz you never know what nutjob is behind the wheel. You might hitch 99 times and never have a problem. The 100th time: you end up as maggot chow in a gulley.

The same could be said for going to school, to work, to the pub, or to church. You NEVER know who was/is going to be there, correct?

You might do these things 99 times, ALSO, and never have a problem. But the 100th time, you end up as maggot chow in a gully, AS WELL.

Or, are these somehow DIFFERENT?

What does any of that have to do with hitchhikin'?

What happens when you STEAL "another's" property "henry quirk"? Do "others" have a 'right' to SHOOT you DEAD also?

If I were dumb enough, greedy enough, or crazy enough to attempt to rob the other guy, then -- yeah -- I ought to expect to get shot.