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The stupidity of today's philosophy of consciousness
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:34 am
by Angelo Cannata
Philosophy can even be considered ridiculous, hypocritical, stupid, in its efforts to assign to quantums and neurons and structures and molecules the task of building a good relationship of man with himself. Pascal taught us not to escape ourselves through the "divertissement", through diversion.
We can even consider noble, honourable, this pseudo-science, because science is research that, as such, improves human knowledge and human condition.
It is an easy fact, though: how can we think of "understanding" ourselves, our consciousness, our being "I", by identifying it as a "hard problem of consciousness", or a matter of quantums and electrons? This is still the typical, prehistoric, rough, mentality of solving problems through "understanding", which means grasping, conquering, destroying, sacking, war.
What I am talking about is not morality, it is knowledge, a different approach to knowledge. You cannot gain knowledge of consciousness through quantums and relativity, because consciousness is you, the subject, the one who is waiting to be met. You cannot meet yourself through quantums and metaphysics. Rather, what Pascal suggested was "esprit de finesse", spirit of fineness, or we can just say spirit.
Re: The stupidity of today's philosophy of consciousness
Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:15 pm
by trokanmariel
Angelo Cannata wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:34 am
Philosophy can even be considered ridiculous, hypocritical, stupid, in its efforts to assign to quantums and neurons and structures and molecules the task of building a good relationship of man with himself. Pascal taught us not to escape ourselves through the "divertissement", through diversion.
We can even consider noble, honourable, this pseudo-science, because science is research that, as such, improves human knowledge and human condition.
It is an easy fact, though: how can we think of "understanding" ourselves, our consciousness, our being "I", by identifying it as a "hard problem of consciousness", or a matter of quantums and electrons? This is still the typical, prehistoric, rough, mentality of solving problems through "understanding", which means grasping, conquering, destroying, sacking, war.
What I am talking about is not morality, it is knowledge, a different approach to knowledge. You cannot gain knowledge of consciousness through quantums and relativity, because consciousness is you, the subject, the one who is waiting to be met. You cannot meet yourself through quantums and metaphysics. Rather, what Pascal suggested was "esprit de finesse", spirit of fineness, or we can just say spirit.
The idea, of philosophy being counterintuitive, is a shared reality. I empathise with your reality, of particle physics not being able to tolerate humanity's condition of trying to access left-wing politics transcendence.
Why left-wing politics transcendence, instead of right-wing politics transcendence?
The status quo, of you criticising particle physics is right-wing. What I mean by this, is that the status quo, in which you attack particle physics is a society paradigm, and society is a capitalist reality. Ergo, the need and logic of left-wing politics transcendence.
About the previous statement, of particle physics not being able to tolerate humanity's condition:
It's my belief, that I was sent physics by sunlight, in order to know the full extent of physics' corruption.
As a result, of this sending, the exactness of the reality is that the physics in question is a theology science.
What are your thoughts?
Re: The stupidity of today's philosophy of consciousness
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:22 pm
by DPMartin
Angelo Cannata wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 11:34 am
Philosophy can even be considered ridiculous, hypocritical, stupid, in its efforts to assign to quantums and neurons and structures and molecules the task of building a good relationship of man with himself. Pascal taught us not to escape ourselves through the "divertissement", through diversion.
We can even consider noble, honourable, this pseudo-science, because science is research that, as such, improves human knowledge and human condition.
It is an easy fact, though: how can we think of "understanding" ourselves, our consciousness, our being "I", by identifying it as a "hard problem of consciousness", or a matter of quantums and electrons? This is still the typical, prehistoric, rough, mentality of solving problems through "understanding", which means grasping, conquering, destroying, sacking, war.
What I am talking about is not morality, it is knowledge, a different approach to knowledge. You cannot gain knowledge of consciousness through quantums and relativity, because consciousness is you, the subject, the one who is waiting to be met. You cannot meet yourself through quantums and metaphysics. Rather, what Pascal suggested was "esprit de finesse", spirit of fineness, or we can just say spirit.
this part is most definitely true "Philosophy can even be considered ridiculous, hypocritical, stupid," for much more reasons then you've mentioned
Re: The stupidity of today's philosophy of consciousness
Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2022 5:32 pm
by Walker
trokanmariel wrote: ↑Fri Apr 08, 2022 9:15 pm
What are your thoughts?
I think you're not just funny, you're very funny. I objectively determine this because after reading many of your sentences, I burst out laughing. Maybe I have a condition ...
