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It's even worlds apart from stopping the criminality.Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:11 pm calling someone a criminal and having the power to prosecute them criminally are worlds apart...
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Don't worry, there's still Karma.Walker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:25 pmIt's even worlds apart from stopping the criminality.Impenitent wrote: ↑Thu Mar 24, 2022 3:11 pm calling someone a criminal and having the power to prosecute them criminally are worlds apart...
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It's about as effective as trash talk.
Personally, I hope Putin just pulls out of Ukraine as we did with Afghanistan and Iraq. It's not the ideal state of affairs but at least it would show a human side to him.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:43 am Why would Ukraine want to join NATO anyway? It must have known it would provoke him. How would the US feel if Russia had military bases on the order between the US and Canada? And that's exactly what the fucking US does--plant its fucking military bases everywhere it can.
Still, seems odd that just as the world is starting to recover from a pandemic, Putin goes insane and tries to start WW111...
We are MISSING information!vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:43 am Why would Ukraine want to join NATO anyway? It must have known it would provoke him. How would the US feel if Russia had military bases on the order between the US and Canada? And that's exactly what the fucking US does--plant its fucking military bases everywhere it can.
Still, seems odd that just as the world is starting to recover from a pandemic, Putin goes insane and tries to start WW111...
I agree. I've always thought that 'war crimes' is a ridiculous expression, as if some mass murders are 'moral' and others aren't.Scott Mayers wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:02 amWe are MISSING information!vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 9:43 am Why would Ukraine want to join NATO anyway? It must have known it would provoke him. How would the US feel if Russia had military bases on the order between the US and Canada? And that's exactly what the fucking US does--plant its fucking military bases everywhere it can.
Still, seems odd that just as the world is starting to recover from a pandemic, Putin goes insane and tries to start WW111...
While Putin is certainly a dick for his actions here that may lead to WWIII, what does 'war crimes' mean unless we are all beginning with some pretense of life as some grand game of Monopoly? War itself is the crime. I don't know how one measures one as being more or less fair for their actions in any act of war. To the other side, WE are the ones with the devious criminal behavior with more just suspicion. We need to SET the example if we expect to discourage behavior we don't approve of. That is why I opened that thread on examples of our deception in capitalist countries. Putin is 'capitalizing' on the methods practiced here with proof of success when WE are being most deceptive.
World War One Hundred and Eleven
Not really, where there is an unprovoked deliberate act that causes physical or psychological harm to men women and children, including damage to or loss of someone else's property they've propbably spent years and years, and shed pints of blood sweat and tears building, not to mention the money spent on building their cities, just to see all that reduced to dust and rubble at the hands of their neighbor, is actually a crime. There are lots of different types of crimes. A crime is an act of war.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:30 am I've always thought that 'war crimes' is a ridiculous expression
As opposed to 'good wars' where children and other normal people don't get maimed or killed. Hmm.Dontaskme wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:42 amNot really, where there is an unprovoked deliberate act that causes physical or psychological harm to men women and children, including damage to or loss of someone else's property they've propbably spent years and years, and shed pints of blood sweat and tears building, not to mention the money spent on building their cities, just to see all that reduced to dust and rubble at the hands of their neighbor, is actually a crime. There are lots of different types of crimes. A crime is an act of war.vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 10:30 am I've always thought that 'war crimes' is a ridiculous expression
A war crime is a violation of the laws of war that gives rise to individual criminal responsibility for actions by the combatants, such as intentionally killing civilians or intentionally killing prisoners of war, torture, taking hostages, unnecessarily destroying civilian property.
If we are not going to behave in an evolved and civilised moral manner towards ourselves, then we are all guilty of being felonious,illegal,illegitimate,illicit,lawless,unlawful,wrongful criminals. We either live peacefully together, or we live in constant conflict... there is no middle way to behave..
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There is no such thing as a good war... war is always bad, always, always BADvegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 25, 2022 11:48 am
As opposed to 'good wars' where children and other normal people don't get maimed or killed. Hmm.