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Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Anyone born is born with the same terminal illness. Being alive is a terminal cancer.

You'd have to be a complete sadistic idiot to want it.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Can you describe the ugliness? I was recently taking part in another discussion, on this site, and forgot to just ask somebody what power was after that person had answered "power" in relation to a question of mine.

Sometimes, people forget to just ask about the simple

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:12 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Can you describe the ugliness?

Chronic poverty, loneliness, and illness.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:22 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:12 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Can you describe the ugliness?

Chronic poverty, loneliness, and illness.

Money is NOT needed.

How could a human being be 'lonely' when there is nearly 8 billion of 'you' alive, when this is being written?

Do 'you', adult human beings, when this is being written, REALLY expect to NEVER get ill?

Considering the way 'you' wreak havoc on, and pollute, the 'world' 'you' NEED to live, in the days when this was being written, it is a wonder how 'you' are all NOT far more sick and ill.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:22 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:12 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Can you describe the ugliness?

Chronic poverty, loneliness, and illness.

Thank you, for the response.

Illness is at the mercy of the singularity, which is due to be created by human and all life. As for poverty and loneliness, it's all at the mercy of the human imagination.

Poverty is but a word, and loneliness too. The trick is to not project those words onto other people

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:56 pm
Illness is at the mercy of the singularity, which is due to be created by human and all life. As for poverty and loneliness, it's all at the mercy of the human imagination.

Poverty is but a word, and loneliness too. The trick is to not project those words onto other people

Absolute bullshit.

Poverty and loneliness is a real experience, anyone who experiences it and then imposes it on those who are not experiencing it, namely, the unborn, is a selfish thoughtless, cruel thing to do. Procreation is child abuse.

Each and everyone of us not distracted by pleasurable distractions are alone in the world, alone in our own aloneness. No one alive can know another. Every one is completely alone in the world, in their own aloneness.

The singularity has no need for creation, humans do, and that's why humans are idiots. Imagination is knowledge, and so already knowing what the experience of living is like, it's dumb and stupid to impose it on those who have no desire or need to live the experience of knowledge.

Illness and death is the ultimate humiliation nature plays on itself alone. Why, because nature is a deaf dumb and blind force.

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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:56 pm
Illness is at the mercy of the singularity, which is due to be created by human and all life. As for poverty and loneliness, it's all at the mercy of the human imagination.

Poverty is but a word, and loneliness too. The trick is to not project those words onto other people

Absolute bullshit.

Poverty and loneliness is a real experience, anyone who experiences it and then imposes it on those who are not experiencing it, namely, the unborn, is a selfish thoughtless, cruel thing to do. Procreation is child abuse.

Each and everyone of us not distracted by pleasurable distractions are alone in the world, alone in our own aloneness. No one alive can know another. Every one is completely alone in the world, in their own aloneness.

The singularity has no need for creation, humans do, and that's why humans are idiots. Imagination is knowledge, and so already knowing what the experience of living is like, it's dumb and stupid to impose it on those who have no desire or need to live the experience of knowledge.

Illness and death is the ultimate humiliation nature plays on itself alone. Why, because nature is a deaf dumb and blind force.

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The singularity is a logical outcome, of sequence, which is backed up by daylight's synchronicity between time and infinity. In terms of the day to day experience, of poverty and loneliness, it's at the mercy of human memes. Meme culture is the force responsible, for people projecting the words poverty and loneliness - agents against the singularity - onto other people

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 8:33 pm

The singularity is a logical outcome, of sequence, which is backed up by daylight's synchronicity between time and infinity. In terms of the day to day experience, of poverty and loneliness, it's at the mercy of human memes. Meme culture is the force responsible, for people projecting the words poverty and loneliness - agents against the singularity - onto other people

To be honest, I have absolutely no idea what you have said.

As for being a conscious aware sentient organism, it is a fact that Pain is bad..and that's never good. Only a sadistic force would want or ever need to exist.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Indeed. Everyone carries a few scars. So what?
If you want to sit around, staring into a mirror and feeling sorry for yourself, that's all right. But it doesn't accomplish much.
Get a hobby, join a cause, sign up to be a martyr, grow a sunflower.... Do something!!

Skip wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:06 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Indeed. Everyone carries a few scars. So what?
If you want to sit around, staring into a mirror and feeling sorry for yourself, that's all right. But it doesn't accomplish much.
Get a hobby, join a cause, sign up to be a martyr, grow a sunflower.... Do something!!

I do not think you understand, what scarred for life means. No worries, it's too deep for most minds to comprehend. It's not something that can be fixed by picking up some knitting needles. Gary is right, this universe is broken, it's a failed system, it's a fools paradise.

I do not think that expressing how one is feeling to the whole world is feeling sorry for yourself. That's just something someone else would say because they fear the great big gaping pointless meaningless void that is reality. But those who understand reality for what it really is are the ones who are able to look at it square in the face without fear.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 3:56 pm
Illness is at the mercy of the singularity, which is due to be created by human and all life. As for poverty and loneliness, it's all at the mercy of the human imagination.

Poverty is but a word, and loneliness too. The trick is to not project those words onto other people

Absolute bullshit.

Poverty and loneliness is a real experience, anyone who experiences it and then imposes it on those who are not experiencing it, namely, the unborn, is a selfish thoughtless, cruel thing to do.

To ASSUME EVERY child is in 'poverty' and in 'loneliness' is just a PRIME EXAMPLE of how the CLOSED will LOOK AT and SEE 'things'.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm Procreation is child abuse.

NOT if one brings up a child WITH 'misusing' them.

Procreation, itself, is NOT 'child abuse'. Abusing a child, however, IS 'child abuse'.

But, one would HAVE TO KNOW what the PURPOSE of human beings, and children, ARE BEFORE they would even KNOW if they are MISUSING or USING a child properly AND correctly, or NOT.

Which, according to 'you', human beings, in the days when this was being written, NONE of 'you' ACTUALLY KNEW what the PURPOSE of human beings, nor what the PURPOSE of life and living was either, correct?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm Each and everyone of us not distracted by pleasurable distractions are alone in the world, alone in our own aloneness.

WHY are 'you', "dontaskme"? WHEN are 'you' going to GROW UP and MATURE?

'Playing the victim' NEVER helps 'you', properly AND correctly. Feeling like 'the victim', as an adult, only makes 'that adult' MORE ALONE.

'you' MIGHT get a bit of 'pity' and 'sympathy' for a while, but keep on going and FIND OUT and SEE just how long that lasts for.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm No one alive can know another. Every one is completely alone in the world, in their own aloneness.

Yet, to you, SOMETIMES, there is NO "other one", and so NO "another". But, at OTHER TIMES, to 'you', there are MANY, and EVERY one of 'them' is 'this or that'.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm The singularity has no need for creation, humans do, and that's why humans are idiots.

Tell me ONE 'human being' who NEEDS 'creation', and then WHY 'that NEED for creation' makes them an IDIOT?

If human beings NEED some 'thing' in order to live and survive, then HOW, EXACTLY, does that in and of itself make the 'human being' a, supposed, IDIOT?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm Imagination is knowledge, and so already knowing what the experience of living is like, it's dumb and stupid to impose it on those who have no desire or need to live the experience of knowledge.

Experiencing 'Life', Itself, and living would have to be, literally, the MOST wonder-full and beauty-full experience EVER.

Although, and OBVIOUSLY, SOME of what 'you', adult human beings, do is Truly UGLY, and VERY QUESTIONABLE.

But, take away the adult human beings who live around the days when this was being written, then 'Life', Itself, is literally, full-of beauty and wonder.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm Illness and death is the ultimate humiliation nature plays on itself alone.

When, EXACTLY, does 'nature' DIE, especially considering the Fact that you CLAIM 'nature' exists FOREVER?

Also, besides the adult human being, what OTHER 'thing' within Nature, Itself, causes ILLNESS, to 'Nature', Itself?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 5:54 pm Why, because nature is a deaf dumb and blind force.

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OF COURSE 'Nature', Itself, is NOT able to 'hear', 'speak, NOR 'see'.

The very REASON WHY, through 'Nature', Itself, and natural evolution AND creation, Nature created a species with the ability to 'hear', 'speak', AND 'see', or just SENSE 'the world' and 'Universe' that 'it' lives WITHIN is so that 'Nature', or 'I', could come to KNOW thy Self. This is where the human species and that Truly AMAZING human brain came into play.

Oh, and by the way, if 'you', children, NEVER 'heard' evil, NEVER 'saw' evil, (from adult human beings), then 'you' would ALSO NEVER grow up to 'speak' evil.

In other words, when 'you', adult human beings, LEARN and UNDERSTAND what IS Truly Right in Life, then 'you' will NEVER do Wrong, which is WHERE ALL 'children' LEARN and COPY Wrong from.

If one NEVER 'heard' NOR 'saw' Wrong, then they could NOT COPY Wrong and so would NOT DO Wrong, nor 'speak' Wrong, in other words.

Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:40 am'you' MIGHT get a bit of 'pity' and 'sympathy' for a while, but keep on going and FIND OUT and SEE just how long that lasts for.

You really do not understand half as much as you think you do. So shut up and stop pretending that you know the thoughts and feelings of what is inside other peoples minds and bodies. You know nothing about anyone else, but your own self.

From my perspective, Life sucks, and denial is futile..but you there, can embellish life all you want with your fancy shmancy pretty pink and fluffy beliefs that life is so wonderful if only we knew it...that will not change the actual raw truth that everyone knows deep down in the core of their being, which is life is a retarded bloody meatgrinder.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am

Skip wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:06 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sat Mar 05, 2022 12:08 pm Once you've seen the ugliness at the heart of existence, you never unsee it. You are scarred for life.

Indeed. Everyone carries a few scars. So what?
If you want to sit around, staring into a mirror and feeling sorry for yourself, that's all right. But it doesn't accomplish much.
Get a hobby, join a cause, sign up to be a martyr, grow a sunflower.... Do something!!

I do not think you understand, what scarred for life means.

NO one KNOWS what 'scarred for life' means, if the one or ones who CLAIM to be 'scarred for life' do NOT explain what 'scarred for life' MEANS.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am No worries, it's too deep for most minds to comprehend.

Absolutely NOTHING is so-called "too deep" to comprehend. But, if some 'thing' is NOT expressed NOR explained, then 'it' can NOT be comprehended.

Also, through 'maturing', or just 'growing up', then the 'scars' can be gotten RID OF and REMOVED completely.

But if one wants to REMAIN IN what happened to them, previously, and NEVER express 'that', then they do NOT 'grow up' and 'mature' and just REMAIN IN the 'victim' in or with 'self-pity'.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am It's not something that can be fixed by picking up some knitting needles.

VERY True. The ONLY True way to REMOVE 'the scars' is to EX-PRESS 'them'. And, the best way is THROUGH 'words' and BEING HEARD, or LISTENED TO.

But, if one does NOT want to SPEAK, then there is, literally, NOTHING to BE HEARD, nor COMPREHENDED.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am Gary is right, this universe is broken, it's a failed system, it's a fools paradise.

LOL So, an ETERNAL 'system' is, supposedly, FAILED because just a few human 'children' HAVE BEEN ABUSED.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am I do not think that expressing how one is feeling to the whole world is feeling sorry for yourself. That's just something someone else would say because they fear the great big gaping pointless meaningless void that is reality. But those who understand reality for what it really is are the ones who are able to look at it square in the face without fear.

So, what 'we' are to take from this is that the one known as "dontaskme" KNOWS, WITHOUT DOUBT, and IRREFUTABLY, what 'reality' REALLY IS.

And, if absolutely ANY one has ANY DIFFERENT 'opinion' of what 'reality' REALLY IS, then their 'opinion' is Wrong, because "dontaskme's" 'opinion' is ABSOLUTELY True, Right, AND Correct, correct?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:00 am

Age wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:40 am'you' MIGHT get a bit of 'pity' and 'sympathy' for a while, but keep on going and FIND OUT and SEE just how long that lasts for.

You really do not understand half as much as you think you do. So shut up and stop pretending that you know the thoughts and feelings of what is inside other peoples minds and bodies. You know nothing about anyone else, but your own self.

I KNOW as much as NO person NOR human being 'has' a "mind".

As for the thoughts and feelings within those bodies, then what they ARE, EXACTLY, is ALREADY KNOWN.

And, by the way, 'you' WILL ASSUME the VERY WRONG 'thing' here of what I am ACTUALLY SAYING and MEANING.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am From my perspective, Life sucks,

And there we are. Thee ACTUAL Truth FINALLY REVEALS Itself here.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:00 am and denial is futile..

I doubt you would find absolutely ANY one denying, "Life sucks to "dontaskme".

In fact I think what would be found is that EVERY one is IN AGREEMENT here, and that we ALL ACCEPT that "Life sucks to the one known as "dontaskme".

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:00 am but you there, can embellish life all you want with your fancy shmancy pretty pink and fluffy beliefs that life is so wonderful if only we knew it...

But I do NOT have ANY 'beliefs'.

Have you NOT HEARD me EXPRESS this Fact BEFORE?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:00 am that will not change the actual raw truth that everyone knows deep down in the core of their being, which is life is a retarded bloody meatgrinder.

So, 'you' STILL want to 'TRY' and speak for absolutely EVERY one. Which ALSO MEANS that you ACTUALLY STILL BELIEVE that you KNOW the 'core thinking' within EVERY body, correct?

Life, Itself, to me, is just a 'word' that means, or refers to, 'that' what IS ALIVE. To keep this SIMPLE.