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Humans have been writing stuff down, and when that happened exactly in their history...we really don't care here to say,

What I have to say here is that there is an impression in human beings that what they imagine, is what seems to be happening, and not that something else than what they can imagine seems to be happening, and that they can imagine how that is for the specific occasion.

Let's try to explain this with two examples:

Exampe1: Before anyone started writing something down, what was happening around anyone wasn't what was written down. (as there wasn't something written down...)

Example2: After someone writes something down, that the specific someone believes is what seems to be happening, in order for the specific someone to really find this out, the specific someone really has to do experiments...

...and when you do an experiment you can have no results as an option, you can have the expected results, or something unexpected may happen.

Whether something unexpected may happen when one does an experiment, one can simply verify, and even simpler prove to everyone by considering the below experiment:

Pick a coin, choose a side and flip it as freely as you want to live.

After you think you can decide the side the coin ends up facing you right all the time, and before you come back to me with long and tedious stories...I have a question for you?

Regardless of the time and space you live, why didn't you come now to tell me about it, as I am writing this long reply here...if you could predict the future...then why didn't you predict it a bit earlier...look at how much stuff I have to write down here...waiting for you prophet...to come back to tell me that what seems to be happening is something you imagined, and not something else than anything anyone can imagine, which is pretty simple to say, pretty simple to observe, and seems pretty fair for any human...it seems to me.

The third option, which can be correct, regarding the coin toss.

In reading what you wrote, that was my imagination, of the coin toss description: that once a coin is tossed, there can be a third option which is a logical outcome of the situation, in relation to there being a consistent meaning to the coin toss.

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:21 am The third option, which can be correct, regarding the coin toss.

In reading what you wrote, that was my imagination, of the coin toss description: that once a coin is tossed, there can be a third option which is a logical outcome of the situation, in relation to there being a consistent meaning to the coin toss.

The third option is you toss a coin many times, sometimes you get it right , sometimes you don't how the coin faces you (one side, the other side, or standing)...
...this is the option that is happening is reality...namely...
...something else than anything you can imagine...
...but you can imagine how that really happens, in a really funny way.

Why?

After all there is minus the living beings, was done making the natural laws, that all the dead stuff had to follow over and over, and over, did the rest really have to make anything else? But also...

After all there is minus the living beings, made the natural laws that the living beings could follow from their nature, in a way that was really fun for them over and over and over, did the rest really have to make any more laws for the dead stuff, who in any case follow the laws that the rest makes for them to follow over and over and over? Why?

Cause exactly one moment before you really make everything you didn’t really exactly do that yet…you’re going to argue with me regarding one moment exactly before you really make everything that you did everything here now player?! Nah…and also player, one moment after you really made everything, you have to make sure that the moment exactly before that is really there, so that something living can really live it and make everything again, in whatever you player made, or what you made isn’t really fun to happen over and over and over, and you player don’t know how to really have fun with the rest.

Get it player? What’s that? That…

Nature is a lady,
Justice is blind, and…
…MAMA in the end puts order.

butimfeeling2022 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 3:49 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 12:21 am The third option, which can be correct, regarding the coin toss.

In reading what you wrote, that was my imagination, of the coin toss description: that once a coin is tossed, there can be a third option which is a logical outcome of the situation, in relation to there being a consistent meaning to the coin toss.

The third option is you toss a coin many times, sometimes you get it right , sometimes you don't how the coin faces you (one side, the other side, or standing)...
...this is the option that is happening is reality...namely...
...something else than anything you can imagine...
...but you can imagine how that really happens, in a really funny way.

Why?

After all there is minus the living beings, was done making the natural laws, that all the dead stuff had to follow over and over, and over, did the rest really have to make anything else? But also...

After all there is minus the living beings, made the natural laws that the living beings could follow from their nature, in a way that was really fun for them over and over and over, did the rest really have to make any more laws for the dead stuff, who in any case follow the laws that the rest makes for them to follow over and over and over? Why?

Cause exactly one moment before you really make everything you didn’t really exactly do that yet…you’re going to argue with me regarding one moment exactly before you really make everything that you did everything here now player?! Nah…and also player, one moment after you really made everything, you have to make sure that the moment exactly before that is really there, so that something living can really live it and make everything again, in whatever you player made, or what you made isn’t really fun to happen over and over and over, and you player don’t know how to really have fun with the rest.

Get it player? What’s that? That…

Nature is a lady,
Justice is blind, and…
…MAMA in the end puts order.

It seems, the gist of your commentary, is the theme of the classic philosophy, in which you can imagine something to be in the box, and whatever you imagine will be the truth.

How do you feel about that?

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:04 pm
It seems, the gist of your commentary, is the theme of the classic philosophy, in which you can imagine something to be in the box, and whatever you imagine will be the truth.

How do you feel about that?

1.When one imagines something player, something else is happening around one in reality, because if you player REALLY think otherwise...

2.When one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, but if you player REALLY think this what seems to be really happening in reality...

3. If in the end, when one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, then it doesn't seem to me where inside one really imagines something...does it seems to you player?!

You think you are funny?
Nah, you ain't funny yet player.

So what are we talking about here player?
Here we are talking about nothing but the obvious...what's that?
What seems to be happening obviously. What's that?
Obviously it's really something else than what you imagine that happens in reality, it has been happening for quite a while before you existed...

To this entire thread...

In what institution was this conversation recorded?

Do the doctors believe there is a cure?

butimfeeling2022 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:12 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:04 pm
It seems, the gist of your commentary, is the theme of the classic philosophy, in which you can imagine something to be in the box, and whatever you imagine will be the truth.

How do you feel about that?

1.When one imagines something player, something else is happening around one in reality, because if you player REALLY think otherwise...

2.When one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, but if you player REALLY think this what seems to be really happening in reality...

3. If in the end, when one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, then it doesn't seem to me where inside one really imagines something...does it seems to you player?!

You think you are funny?
Nah, you ain't funny yet player.

So what are we talking about here player?
Here we are talking about nothing but the obvious...what's that?
What seems to be happening obviously. What's that?
Obviously it's really something else than what you imagine that happens in reality, it has been happening for quite a while before you existed...

I'll address the first sentence:

Psychology is divergence. It's a bit surreal, that I make this interpretation, of your commentary, given that I just recently started thinking about the idea of physics and psychology being safe from one another as long as the two are outside of one another

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:20 pm To this entire thread...

In what institution was this conversation recorded?

Do the doctors believe there is a cure?

This idiotic conclusion,

of a player who thinks it is funny that he read nonsense on the internet on a thread he didn't write, and yet...

...spends time and effort to reply to the thread that player thinks is nonsense, with just his opinion and no argument.

do you think that player makes sense, or do you think that player thinks that player is funny?

You think you are funny player? Nah...you ain't funny yet.

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:56 pm

butimfeeling2022 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:12 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:04 pm
It seems, the gist of your commentary, is the theme of the classic philosophy, in which you can imagine something to be in the box, and whatever you imagine will be the truth.

How do you feel about that?

1.When one imagines something player, something else is happening around one in reality, because if you player REALLY think otherwise...

2.When one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, but if you player REALLY think this what seems to be really happening in reality...

3. If in the end, when one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, then it doesn't seem to me where inside one really imagines something...does it seems to you player?!

You think you are funny?
Nah, you ain't funny yet player.

So what are we talking about here player?
Here we are talking about nothing but the obvious...what's that?
What seems to be happening obviously. What's that?
Obviously it's really something else than what you imagine that happens in reality, it has been happening for quite a while before you existed...

I'll address the first sentence:

Psychology is divergence. It's a bit surreal, that I make this interpretation, of your commentary, given that I just recently started thinking about the idea of physics and psychology being safe from one another as long as the two are outside of one another

Psychology as humans imagine it at any given moment, can either make sense in reality to happen over and over, or doesn't and then humans think what they imagine is happening in reality...

...something else than anything you can imagine happens in reality, but you can imagine how that is in a funny way for you. Why?

Because otherwise it wouldn't really be funny what you imagine, and the universe couldn't find anything further to do to make it funny over and over.

butimfeeling2022 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:46 pm

RCSaunders wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 3:20 pm To this entire thread...

In what institution was this conversation recorded?

Do the doctors believe there is a cure?

This idiotic conclusion,

of a player who thinks it is funny that he read nonsense on the internet on a thread he didn't write, and yet...

...spends time and effort to reply to the thread that player thinks is nonsense, with just his opinion and no argument.

do you think that player makes sense, or do you think that player thinks that player is funny?

You think you are funny player? Nah...you ain't funny yet.

You are.

[Seriously, what is your first language? It is obviously not English.]

butimfeeling2022 wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:49 pm

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 5:56 pm

butimfeeling2022 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 02, 2022 1:12 pm

1.When one imagines something player, something else is happening around one in reality, because if you player REALLY think otherwise...

2.When one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, but if you player REALLY think this what seems to be really happening in reality...

3. If in the end, when one imagines something player, something else isn't happening around one in reality, then it doesn't seem to me where inside one really imagines something...does it seems to you player?!

You think you are funny?
Nah, you ain't funny yet player.

So what are we talking about here player?
Here we are talking about nothing but the obvious...what's that?
What seems to be happening obviously. What's that?
Obviously it's really something else than what you imagine that happens in reality, it has been happening for quite a while before you existed...

I'll address the first sentence:

Psychology is divergence. It's a bit surreal, that I make this interpretation, of your commentary, given that I just recently started thinking about the idea of physics and psychology being safe from one another as long as the two are outside of one another

Psychology as humans imagine it at any given moment, can either make sense in reality to happen over and over, or doesn't and then humans think what they imagine is happening in reality...

...something else than anything you can imagine happens in reality, but you can imagine how that is in a funny way for you. Why?

Because otherwise it wouldn't really be funny what you imagine, and the universe couldn't find anything further to do to make it funny over and over.

The loop, or imagination. You seem to create that choice, out of the first sentence of response to myself.

trokanmariel wrote: ↑Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:02 pm The loop, or imagination. You seem to create that choice, out of the first sentence of response to myself.

When something makes sense, it makes sense to happen again and again in reality, or else...
it doesn't make sense to happen again and again in reality, but then...
...it doesn't seem to me that it really makes sense...does it seem to you?

So...apart from you player in this universe, there is also the rest.
What is the rest?
The rest is all there is minus you player...what you think it is you and nothing else player?
Why?

Because if you specifically knew what really happens in reality player,
and you had a problem with me telling you here it's not that player,
something else than anything you can imagine seems to be happening in reality, since the beginning of reality...
...then why didn't you player come earlier to tell me about it?
What genius, didn't you know what really happens in reality player?

Think about it player, and cut the nonsense with me, if what you read is nonsense simply ignore me...I can't...Why?.. cause you are replying to my post player that is nonsense to you instead of ignoring it, this is exactly why...