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I'm sorry God.

Also, I'm sorry forum if I offended some people's sensibilities. I'll probably say something stupid again one of these days, though. I seem to put my foot in my mouth a lot.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:58 pm Also, I'm sorry forum if I offended some people's sensibilities. I'll probably say something stupid again one of these days, though. I seem to put my foot in my mouth a lot.

You certainly didn't offend me. The only failing I can see is that you have blame for an entity you don't know exists, ergo, cannot be certain that this God is the cause of any situation within your life as it is currently.

You seem like a nice chap Gary, and you certainly as indicated are suffering quite immensely. I think we could both learn and assist each other, but I cannot open up as I would like upon the gaze of the entire forum. My offer remains open, if you wish to discuss further my offer stands. If you pm me, I will provide another means for further discussion beyond this forum (including the pm thang!)

Up to you.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:56 pm I'm sorry God.

No need to feel sorry.

You've done the decent thing already. You didn't impose the reality of life onto more people. Religious people cannot handle the truth that is nature, and is why they live in a perpetual state of denial by using distraction tactics.

This video explains the truth of nature, which most people refuse to look at, because the horror is just too unimaginable and unthinkable...All of us are part of nature's insidious game....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Siuc94m8a5s

The only good human being is a dead one.

RIP

Good grief. This is really taking your obsession with apologising to the nth degree...

vegetariantaxidermy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:12 am Good grief. This is really taking your obsession with apologising to the nth degree...

Yeah, I know. I just want peace in the world, even though I sometimes contribute to the strife.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:39 am

Yeah, I know. I just want peace in the world, even though I sometimes contribute to the strife.

Absolute Peace is the knowing of our own being. It is not dependent on anything other than itself. Peace does not exist in the external world which is a projection of mind..

There's a place of perfect peace, but no one wants to live there. Knowing our own being is pure consciousness completely unaware that it is alive or dead...pure consciousness is the same as cat or dog or crocodile consciousness.

Crocodiles have survived for millions of years, because they have no need for purpose or meaning, or reason.



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Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:39 am

Yeah, I know. I just want peace in the world, even though I sometimes contribute to the strife.

Absolute Peace is the knowing of our own being.

What if knowing ones own being is that of a total KUNT? Does that allow absolute peace?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pmIt is not dependent on anything other than itself.

So. Kunt=peace?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pmPeace does not exist in the external world which is a projection of mind..

How does a kunt project the inner mind of a kunt?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pmThere's a place of perfect peace, but no one wants to live there.

Kill the kunt dead? - then no one CAN live there.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pmKnowing our own being is pure consciousness completely unaware that it is alive or dead...pure consciousness is the same as cat or dog or crocodile consciousness.

So. You have interfaced to the consciousness of a cat a dog and a crocodile to comprehend this 'pure consciousness'?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pmCrocodiles have survived for millions of years, because they have no need for purpose or meaning, or reason.

Oh...is that Y? They don't even have a need to breed to survive for millions of years..

Well, fuck me sideways - U R A GENIUS.



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Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:56 pm I'm sorry God.

Noted your 'location' in your profile, but don't be so confused and stupid [lack intelligence and rationality] as to apologize to something that is non-existent and not real.

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:07 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:56 pm I'm sorry God.

Noted your 'location' in your profile, but don't be so confused and stupid [lack intelligence and rationality] as to apologize to something that is non-existent and not real.

VA. I don't know how this world works. I'm diagnosed with schizophrenia because I've had hyper religious "delusions," extremely scary ones. They started at age 25, even though I was a diehard atheist after idolizing Carl Sagan. The delusions involved demons, shape-shifting, personality shifting, the whole 9 yards. I was horrified by what I saw. Horrified to a state of catatonia. I can't describe it and I can't explain it through evolutionary theory. There is no known history of mental illness in my family and I stayed away from illegal drugs. I've never in my life even tried marijuana. So where did this "schizophrenia" come from? I've seen things that apparently few have seen, unless everyone in this world has "schziophrenia", that which the doctors have diagnosed me with. Does schizophrenia really exist? Or does it not? I don't know the answer to that either. I was told that "schizophrenia" is incurable many times as doctors pounded my brain with extremely powerful psychotropic drugs to get rid of those periodic delusions, at times turning me into a virtual zombie. I'm still on those drugs as we speak, albeit less zombifying ones now. I believe in science but science is getting weirder and weirder and more difficult to understand and wrap my head around. AND, to be honest, I don't want to wrap my head around science. I don't want to know. I'd rather live an honest and true life among my people (those who aren't privy to all the fruits of modern technology). I'd rather die a natural death and not be hooked up to a "life" support system like some kind of lab experiment. So leave me alone, doctor. Go to your ivory tower and continue mixing dynamite with butter. Until you figure out how the world TRULY works.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:07 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:56 pm I'm sorry God.

Noted your 'location' in your profile, but don't be so confused and stupid [lack intelligence and rationality] as to apologize to something that is non-existent and not real.

VA. I don't know how this world works. I'm diagnosed with schizophrenia because I've had hyper religious "delusions," extremely scary ones.
They started at age 25, even though I was a diehard atheist after idolizing Carl Sagan. The delusions involved demons, shape-shifting, personality shifting, the whole 9 yards. I was horrified by what I saw. Horrified to a state of catatonia. I can't describe it and I can't explain it through evolutionary theory.

What is interesting here is you are able to assert 'I am diagnosed with schizophrenia .." which resonate with Descartes' "I Think therefore I AM" or "I experience/think, therefore I AM"
What is critical here is you are able to rationalize independently of your schizophrenia in contrast to those schizoprehrenics who have totally lost their sense of self-awareness.

As such, you need to take advantage of your independent sense of self-awareness and adopt an independent view of the existing state of your body and brain is in.
For example you could take your state of schizophrenia as if you are in an independent cinema which can project whatever images on its screen which you have no control of but you have to watch it.
Therefore if the independent cinema within you project on its screen images of terror and horror, you need to use your [..I AM] to rationalize to blame the cinema manager within you and await for the screening to be over.

This is where Mindfulness Meditation will help tremendously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mindfulness
There is one aspect of mindfulness that teaches one to be mindful of what is going on in the brain in the present moment and not to be emotionally /psychologically affected by it.
see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jon_Kabat-Zinn

Note for example, Charles Bonnet syndrome [Visual release hallucinations] which will naturally happen to many people as they age and they will experience various hallucinations. If one is ignorant of the cause [natural in old age for many] they will be terrified. But if one is informed of such a possibility before, they will be aware and be mindful it is just a natural hallucination that has happened to them naturally due to aging.

Thus mindfulness and rationality is very useful for me when at times the meds do not work.

There is no known history of mental illness in my family and I stayed away from illegal drugs. I've never in my life even tried marijuana. So where did this "schizophrenia" come from? I've seen things that apparently few have seen, unless everyone in this world has "schziophrenia", that which the doctors have diagnosed me with.
Does schizophrenia really exist? Or does it not?
I don't know the answer to that either.
I was told that "schizophrenia" is incurable many times as doctors pounded my brain with extremely powerful psychotropic drugs to get rid of those periodic delusions, at times turning me into a virtual zombie. I'm still on those drugs as we speak, albeit less zombifying ones now.

I believe in science but science is getting weirder and weirder and more difficult to understand and wrap my head around. AND, to be honest, I don't want to wrap my head around science. I don't want to know. I'd rather live an honest and true life among my people (those who aren't privy to all the fruits of modern technology). I'd rather die a natural death and not be hooked up to a "life" support system like some kind of lab experiment. So leave me alone, doctor. Go to your ivory tower and continue mixing dynamite with butter. Until you figure out how the world TRULY works.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If you'd research into schizophrenia you would have noted there are many various types of causes. Since yours is not due to the common causes, regardless, your schizo nevertheless is due to some exceptional effects and influence of neurotransmitters between certain neurons.
It is the same with those who take hallucinogens [drugs] and their experiences of hallucination can be pleasant or very horrible depending on which parts of the brain are triggered.

Don't give up on science. A focus on the neurosciences, neuro-psychology, evolutionary psychology will be very helpful to your problem to support your rationality and mindfulness.

And btw the way as a consolation, you are not the exceptions, note everyone is hallucinating at all times, except your cinema manager [in your brain] at times is not good in projecting the better images and movies.

Anil Seth: Is Reality a Controlled Hallucination?
viewtopic.php?f=5&t=34077

Your brain hallucinates your conscious reality
viewtopic.php?f=11&t=25316

We Are All Hallucinating All The Time
"In a sense, we are all hallucinating all the time," Dr. Ramachandran said. "What we call normal vision is our selecting the hallucination that best fits reality."

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:56 pm I'm sorry God.

What are you even "apologizing" and "sorry" for EXACTLY?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:39 am

Yeah, I know. I just want peace in the world, even though I sometimes contribute to the strife.

Absolute Peace is the knowing of our own being.

Do you have the 'knowing' of "our being"?

If yes, then what is "our" 'being"? And,

Who or what EXACTLY does the "our" word refer to here?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm It is not dependent on anything other than itself.

Did 'you' EXPLAIN what this 'being' this IS, EXACTLY, (which is "our" anyway)?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm Peace does not exist in the external world which is a projection of mind..

WHERE IS and WHAT IS this 'mind' thing, which is supposedly PROJECTING the WHOLE 'world'?

And, if there is MORE than One 'mind', then are there as MANY PROJECTED 'worlds' as there are 'minds'?

What is 'peace' to you, and, why can a 'mind' NOT PROJECT 'peace' into the so-called "external world"?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm There's a place of perfect peace, but no one wants to live there.

And, WHERE EXACTLY is "that place", and, WHY do 'you' NOT want to live there? What are 'you' AFRAID of EXACTLY?

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm Knowing our own being is pure consciousness completely unaware that it is alive or dead...pure consciousness is the same as cat or dog or crocodile consciousness.

LOL So 'you', the one known as "dontaskme" here, CLAIM that Consciousness, Itself, is COMPLETELY UNAWARE. Which, as can be CLEARLY SEEN, is an OXYMORON, TOTALLY CONTRADICTORY, and ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS.

Dontaskme wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 1:27 pm Crocodiles have survived for millions of years, because they have no need for purpose or meaning, or reason.
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Was that REALLY the 'reason'?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm

Veritas Aequitas wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 7:07 am

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 10:56 pm I'm sorry God.

Noted your 'location' in your profile, but don't be so confused and stupid [lack intelligence and rationality] as to apologize to something that is non-existent and not real.

VA. I don't know how this world works.

If 'you' REALLY do want to KNOW, then just ask CLARIFYING questions to those of us that do.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm I'm diagnosed with schizophrenia because I've had hyper religious "delusions," extremely scary ones.

Is EVERY 'diagnose' Correct?

What "delusions" have you been having EXACTLY, and "scary" how?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm They started at age 25, even though I was a diehard atheist after idolizing Carl Sagan. The delusions involved demons, shape-shifting, personality shifting, the whole 9 yards. I was horrified by what I saw. Horrified to a state of catatonia. I can't describe it and I can't explain it through evolutionary theory. There is no known history of mental illness in my family and I stayed away from illegal drugs. I've never in my life even tried marijuana. So where did this "schizophrenia" come from? I've seen things that apparently few have seen, unless everyone in this world has "schziophrenia", that which the doctors have diagnosed me with.

What have you 'seen'?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm Does schizophrenia really exist? Or does it not?

How do 'you' define 'schizophrenia'?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm I don't know the answer to that either.

Just define the word 'schizophrenia', or, just find what ACTUALLY happens AND occurs, and then could the word 'schizophrenia' refer to 'that'?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm I was told that "schizophrenia" is incurable many times as doctors pounded my brain with extremely powerful psychotropic drugs to get rid of those periodic delusions, at times turning me into a virtual zombie. I'm still on those drugs as we speak, albeit less zombifying ones now. I believe in science but science is getting weirder and weirder and more difficult to understand and wrap my head around. AND, to be honest, I don't want to wrap my head around science. I don't want to know. I'd rather live an honest and true life among my people (those who aren't privy to all the fruits of modern technology).

Is there ANY person who is privy to ALL the fruits of modern technology?

If yes, then who EXACTLY?

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm I'd rather die a natural death and not be hooked up to a "life" support system like some kind of lab experiment.

Okay.

Gary Childress wrote: ↑Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:29 pm So leave me alone, doctor. Go to your ivory tower and continue mixing dynamite with butter. Until you figure out how the world TRULY works.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Again, how the 'world' works is VERY SIMPLE and VERY EASY indeed.